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Post by Vinny on Aug 9, 2024 8:44:25 GMT
There was a guy in the midlands beaten up and given liver damage by a gang of extremist Muslims, just because he went to a pub.
There are good and bad in all walks of life but extremist Muslims are all too often ignored by the authorities.
Just imagine if they'd murdered pub goers.
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Post by thomas on Aug 9, 2024 8:48:56 GMT
sigh. Im trying to get to the bottom of all these claims of far right , racists , and all the other slurs .No one is denying offences have been committed , the question is the type of offences , and are they racist? so far , you and sid are doing a lot of screaming but offering up very little proof about the far right and racists . I'm not sure how you would categorise targeting mosques and corner shops. so can you put it all into context for us , regarding the far right racists carrying out all these riots / protests ? what percentage of people have been proven to be far right , who has been jailed for racist acts , and what percentage of criminal damage carried out in these protests/riots were specifically aimed at ethnic minority premises or places of religious worship? apart from slurs in media headlines Andrew , something the left constantly complain about themselves , im just trying to get to the bottom of all this and see exactly what is happening in between all the shit being thrown on forums like these. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 9, 2024 8:59:16 GMT
I'm not sure how you would categorise targeting mosques and corner shops. so can you put it all into context for us , regarding the far right racists carrying out all these riots / protests ? what percentage of people have been proven to be far right , who has been jailed for racist acts , and what percentage of criminal damage carried out in these protests/riots were specifically aimed at ethnic minority premises or places of religious worship? apart from slurs in media headlines Andrew , something the left constantly complain about themselves , im just trying to get to the bottom of all this and see exactly what is happening in between all the shit being thrown on forums like these. The police saying that they are being organised by the far right is evidence enough for me, based on their intelligence. I'm unsure why you want me to prove them right. If you think they're wrong, isn't it up to to you to show why? I don't know what evidence you want me to show that isn't already in the public domain? |
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Post by Rebirth on Aug 9, 2024 9:01:47 GMT
As noted earlier, andrew moves in different circles to the rest of us. He associates with 'ordinary people', the ones who parade around with SUTR and SW placards airing imaginary grievances and call for the slitting of the throats of those they don't like. Yes, I did pick up on this long ago. He's also very militant and makes demands to silent the natives. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 9, 2024 9:07:15 GMT
The police saying that they are being organised by the far right is evidence enough for me, based on their intelligence... LOL! That's not evidence of anything. Would you be happy if the police pronounced you guilty without trial "Based on their intelligence"? I doubt it. If you think they're wrong, isn't it up to to you to show why? Nope. They're making that allegation, it's up to them to evidence their claim. Which given that they can't even define "Far Right", well I won't hold my breath. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2024 9:12:30 GMT
There was a guy in the midlands beaten up and given liver damage by a gang of extremist Muslims, just because he went to a pub. There are good and bad in all walks of life but extremist Muslims are all too often ignored by the authorities. Just imagine if they'd murdered pub goers. They don't really like alcohol - it's haram. Like Dogs, beautiful women, dancing, music and anything else that people enjoy doing. Oh, and bacon sandwiches. |
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Post by Vinny on Aug 9, 2024 9:12:42 GMT
so can you put it all into context for us , regarding the far right racists carrying out all these riots / protests ? what percentage of people have been proven to be far right , who has been jailed for racist acts , and what percentage of criminal damage carried out in these protests/riots were specifically aimed at ethnic minority premises or places of religious worship? apart from slurs in media headlines Andrew , something the left constantly complain about themselves , im just trying to get to the bottom of all this and see exactly what is happening in between all the shit being thrown on forums like these. The police saying that they are being organised by the far right is evidence enough for me, based on their intelligence. I'm unsure why you want me to prove them right. If you think they're wrong, isn't it up to to you to show why? I don't know what evidence you want me to show that isn't already in the public domain? What happens in the aftermath of terrorist attacks, grooming scandals, general bullying and assaults by Salafist Muslim gangs and continued two tier policing? What happens when the thugs who lacerated a man's liver at the Clumsy Swan in Birmingham, go unpunished? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 9, 2024 9:13:57 GMT
As noted earlier, andrew moves in different circles to the rest of us. He associates with 'ordinary people', the ones who parade around with SUTR and SW placards airing imaginary grievances and call for the slitting of the throats of those they don't like. Yes, I did pick up on this long ago. He's also very militant and makes demands to silent the natives. Me millitant? I don't think you've read too many of my posts. I don't talk about "natives" though, I try to treat everyone the same. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 9, 2024 9:14:57 GMT
The police saying that they are being organised by the far right is evidence enough for me, based on their intelligence. I'm unsure why you want me to prove them right. If you think they're wrong, isn't it up to to you to show why? I don't know what evidence you want me to show that isn't already in the public domain? What happens in the aftermath of terrorist attacks, grooming scandals, general bullying and assaults by Salafist Muslim gangs and continued two tier policing? What happens when the thugs who lacerated a man's liver at the Clumsy Swan in Birmingham, go unpunished? They should be treated in exactly the same way. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 9, 2024 9:18:25 GMT
There was a guy in the midlands beaten up and given liver damage by a gang of extremist Muslims, just because he went to a pub. There are good and bad in all walks of life but extremist Muslims are all too often ignored by the authorities. Just imagine if they'd murdered pub goers. They don't really like alcohol - it's haram. Like Dogs, beautiful women, dancing, music and anything else that people enjoy doing. Oh, and bacon sandwiches. When we went to Turkey the bar owners were Muslims and they could drink me under the table, some times we weren't rolling home till 7 in the morning, they'd be back in work by 10 bright and breezy FFS ... don't know how they did it. |
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Post by Rebirth on Aug 9, 2024 9:18:53 GMT
The police saying that they are being organised by the far right is evidence enough for me, based on their intelligence. I'm unsure why you want me to prove them right. If you think they're wrong, isn't it up to to you to show why? I don't know what evidence you want me to show that isn't already in the public domain? What happens in the aftermath of terrorist attacks, grooming scandals, general bullying and assaults by Salafist Muslim gangs and continued two tier policing? What happens when the thugs who lacerated a man's liver at the Clumsy Swan in Birmingham, go unpunished? He bakes the police a cake and the gullible idiots at the BBC praise it? |
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Post by Vinny on Aug 9, 2024 9:20:15 GMT
What happens in the aftermath of terrorist attacks, grooming scandals, general bullying and assaults by Salafist Muslim gangs and continued two tier policing? What happens when the thugs who lacerated a man's liver at the Clumsy Swan in Birmingham, go unpunished? They should be treated in exactly the same way. They should be. Are they seen to be though? |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 9, 2024 9:54:11 GMT
What happens in the aftermath of terrorist attacks, grooming scandals, general bullying and assaults by Salafist Muslim gangs and continued two tier policing? What happens when the thugs who lacerated a man's liver at the Clumsy Swan in Birmingham, go unpunished? They should be treated in exactly the same way. Are they though? And are they being defined as extremists controlled by an extremist Islamist group? |
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Post by thomas on Aug 9, 2024 11:08:15 GMT
so can you put it all into context for us , regarding the far right racists carrying out all these riots / protests ? what percentage of people have been proven to be far right , who has been jailed for racist acts , and what percentage of criminal damage carried out in these protests/riots were specifically aimed at ethnic minority premises or places of religious worship? apart from slurs in media headlines Andrew , something the left constantly complain about themselves , im just trying to get to the bottom of all this and see exactly what is happening in between all the shit being thrown on forums like these. The police saying that they are being organised by the far right is evidence enough for me, based on their intelligence. I'm unsure why you want me to prove them right. If you think they're wrong, isn't it up to to you to show why? I don't know what evidence you want me to show that isn't already in the public domain? did you no tell me you are a scouser Andrew? apologies if im wrong , but my point is the police can and do get things wrong as we know , they have for example blamed Liverpool football hooligans for the Hillsborough disaster , or jailed people like the Birmingham six under public pressure for atrocities they never carried out , or have leverage put on them by politicians to make claims for political purposes. Claims might be good enough for you , they aren't good enough for me. innocent until proven guilty is the mantra of a civilised society Andrew , and without evidence of the far right , beyond scavenging in the dirt for a few idiots headlines , without substance , or the odd clown with a nazi symbol on the back of his neck apologies if I say I dont believe you. if we cant have a civilised discussion on immigration without either side screaming far left and far right racist , then these riots and protests are only going to get worse. Its sad a man of your calibre is reduced to the level of labour cult members like sid and lefty , and cant put together a coherent argument nor listen to the grievances being talked about without screaming racist. I broadly support controlled immigration from European countries to scotland , I dont support mass immigration . Am I a racist for voicing politely my views ? eventually , the word will cease to have any meaning if it continues to be regularly abused for political purposes. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 9, 2024 11:18:12 GMT
so can you put it all into context for us , regarding the far right racists carrying out all these riots / protests ? what percentage of people have been proven to be far right , who has been jailed for racist acts , and what percentage of criminal damage carried out in these protests/riots were specifically aimed at ethnic minority premises or places of religious worship? apart from slurs in media headlines Andrew , something the left constantly complain about themselves , im just trying to get to the bottom of all this and see exactly what is happening in between all the shit being thrown on forums like these. based on their intelligence. I'm unsure why you want me to prove them right. If you think they're wrong, isn't it up to to you to show why? I don't know what evidence you want me to show that isn't already in the public domain? Well the Police said that there were going to be 100 protests on Wednesday night and that there is no two-tier policing.. The Police say a lot of things that are not entirely true and honest... |
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