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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 2, 2022 6:53:56 GMT
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Post by steppenwolf on Dec 2, 2022 9:05:24 GMT
So what? The EU also doesn't have deals with the USA or India - and probably never will. And it's better to get the right deal rather than any deal. You can't judge how well we're doing by the number of "deals" we have got. It's whether they're advantageous or not.
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 2, 2022 9:40:19 GMT
Sseemt also doesn't have dBritishith the USA or India - and probably never will. And it's better to get the right deal rather than any deal. You can't judge how well we're doing by the number of "deals" we have got. It's whether they're advantageous or not. Well the couple of new deals we have got dont seem advantantage to the british econmy its said they wioo be disatuous to the farmers |
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 2, 2022 11:14:24 GMT
Sseemt also doesn't have dBritishith the USA or India - and probably never will. And it's better to get the right deal rather than any deal. You can't judge how well we're doing by the number of "deals" we have got. It's whether they're advantageous or not. Well the couple of new deals we have got dont seem advantantage to the british econmy its said they wioo be disatuous to the farmers There are millions more consumers than farmers in the UK. Consumers drive trade, and if they get more choice in the matter then that's a good deal. World trade doesn't just revolve around subsidised farmers who still run at a loss. They should not be a protected specie. |
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Post by bancroft on Dec 2, 2022 13:33:09 GMT
You need to remember some of the deals will be in invisibles like arms sales, where country x sells us y number of mangos and we sell them x number of APCs.
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Post by steppenwolf on Dec 3, 2022 8:24:40 GMT
Sseemt also doesn't have dBritishith the USA or India - and probably never will. And it's better to get the right deal rather than any deal. You can't judge how well we're doing by the number of "deals" we have got. It's whether they're advantageous or not. Well the couple of new deals we have got dont seem advantantage to the british econmy its said they wioo be disatuous to the farmers You seem to be rushing to judgement. You just want Brexit to fail - admit it. It will take years for the dust to settle - from Brexit, the pandemic, and the inflation spike. Then we'll see the benefits of not being a colony of the EU. And the EU will eventually break up. There's no way that the EUrozone can survive in its current state and there's no way that countries can leave. It's check mate. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 3, 2022 9:45:19 GMT
Well the couple of new deals we have got dont seem advantantage to the british econmy its said they wioo be disatuous to the farmers You seem to be rushing to judgement. You just want Brexit to fail - admit it. It will take years for the dust to settle - from Brexit, the pandemic, and the inflation spike. Then we'll see the benefits of not being a colony of the EU. And the EU will eventually break up. There's no way that the EUrozone can survive in its current state and there's no way that countries can leave. It's check mate. Do you really think people will wait years for Brexit to 'succeed'? When Labour get into power, they're going to 'fix' the deal. Who knows what that means? I'm pretty sure there will be a lot of pressure from the backbenches for substantial changes, though. The first step on the road back into the EU. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Dec 3, 2022 10:55:04 GMT
75% of the MPs want to be in the EU. But most of the people voted to leave. If the MPs start trying to overturn the referendum AGAIN there will be a massive backlash. Starmer clearly recognises that messing with the EU deal is not a vote winner. If he tries it there'll be real anger. The EU has nearly destroyed our country.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 3, 2022 11:08:45 GMT
75% of the MPs want to be in the EU. But most of the people voted to leave. If the MPs start trying to overturn the referendum AGAIN there will be a massive backlash. Starmer clearly recognises that messing with the EU deal is not a vote winner. If he tries it there'll be real anger. The EU has nearly destroyed our country. Your problem is that a majority now think it was a mistake. I'm not saying that a majority currently want another referendum. But the movement is in that direction. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Dec 4, 2022 8:22:46 GMT
Bollocks. Considering that Brexit coincided almost exactly with one of the biggest pandemics in history everything's going pretty well - despite the best attempts of the EU to scupper it. If we had another referendum we'd win with a bigger majority - because we now have the massive advantage of being the "status quo" - which is worth about 10% usually.
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Post by Toreador on Dec 4, 2022 21:19:22 GMT
Sseemt also doesn't have dBritishith the USA or India - and probably never will. And it's better to get the right deal rather than any deal. You can't judge how well we're doing by the number of "deals" we have got. It's whether they're advantageous or not. Well the couple of new deals we have got dont seem advantantage to the british econmy its said they wioo be disatuous to the farmers If buying food from abroad leaves our farmers producing less, it will mean more land becomes available to build houses for immigrants. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 4, 2022 22:26:25 GMT
Bollocks. Considering that Brexit coincided almost exactly with one of the biggest pandemics in history everything's going pretty well - despite the best attempts of the EU to scupper it. If we had another referendum we'd win with a bigger majority - because we now have the massive advantage of being the "status quo" - which is worth about 10% usually. Then you'll welcome the opportunity to demonstrate that, Snuggles. Good luck! |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 4, 2022 22:28:28 GMT
. And it's better to get the right deal rather than any deal. You can't judge how well we're doing by the number of "deals" we have got. It's whether they're advantageous or not. Is this black humour, Snugs? You have heard about the Australian and New Zealand deals, haven't you? |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 4, 2022 22:32:57 GMT
You need to remember some of the deals will be in invisibles like arms sales, where country x sells us y number of mangos and we sell them x number of APCs. Why don't you read that out loud to yourself, just to hear how it sounds. We've fucked up trading relations with the world's biggest market, but it's okay because we can still sell arms to despots in developing countries. Here's an idea: how about we stop selling arms to lunatics and make up the losses by rejoining the world's biggest market? |
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 4, 2022 22:46:13 GMT
. And it's better to get the right deal rather than any deal. You can't judge how well we're doing by the number of "deals" we have got. It's whether they're advantageous or not. Is this black humour, Snugs? You have heard about the Australian and New Zealand deals, haven't you? What about them? |
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