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Post by dodgydave on Aug 4, 2024 2:35:53 GMT
Its is obvious to anybody with half a brain that the "Southport attack" was actually a RACIST ATTACK.
The same with mass immigration. It is so obvious that letting ten million immigrants in has caused many problems (lack of housing, stretched public services, driving down wages). That's before we even talk about the problems caused by the lack of integration.
Do politicians and the media not understand that they are damaging the public trust in them by constantly denying the obvious?
The same is happening in America. The Democrats and the media lied about the condition of Biden for years, and they suppressed the laptop story, which has led to a huge mistrust in them. When all sides lie, public trust goes, which leaves gaps for the true nutters to exploit.
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 4, 2024 6:39:51 GMT
I agree with most of that. But I'm not sure that Southport was a racist attack. Basically we don't know yet. I see that the BBC are saying that the police have told us that the suspect is not muslim and some BBC reporters have said he's Christian, but that's a lie. The police have not said anything about his religion.
IMO these killings bear so much similarity to standard Islamic terrorist MO that I will be very surprised if the killer hasn't been influenced by hate preachers. Obviously I could be wrong but the information we have been given so far doesn't rule it out.
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Post by dodgydave on Aug 4, 2024 22:04:09 GMT
I agree with most of that. But I'm not sure that Southport was a racist attack. Basically we don't know yet. I see that the BBC are saying that the police have told us that the suspect is not muslim and some BBC reporters have said he's Christian, but that's a lie. The police have not said anything about his religion. IMO these killings bear so much similarity to standard Islamic terrorist MO that I will be very surprised if the killer hasn't been influenced by hate preachers. Obviously I could be wrong but the information we have been given so far doesn't rule it out. Islamic terrorist attacks in this country are racist attacks. We all know why they won't call it a racist attack, because they are partly responsible for pushing the narrative that people of colour are oppressed by the white folk. If it turns out he is mentally ill, it is still a racist attack, because he is attacking what a large portion of the left / liberals says is his enemy ie white people. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 4, 2024 23:05:52 GMT
"Why cant the establishment tell the truth"
Because in 21st century woke UK telling the truth is racist. And that's the truth.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 5, 2024 3:44:23 GMT
Its is obvious to anybody with half a brain that the "Southport attack" was actually a RACIST ATTACK. The only thing that requires half a brain is coming to that conclusion before knowing all the facts and similarly a whole mob of people have decided the police are racist and thugs because one of their own was arrested at Manchester airport or they are politically motivated to believe that . But I'm not sure that Southport was a racist attack. Basically we don't know yet. is as much as we can be sure of till there’s been a trial. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 5, 2024 6:22:28 GMT
I agree with most of that. But I'm not sure that Southport was a racist attack. Basically we don't know yet. I see that the BBC are saying that the police have told us that the suspect is not muslim and some BBC reporters have said he's Christian, but that's a lie. The police have not said anything about his religion. IMO these killings bear so much similarity to standard Islamic terrorist MO that I will be very surprised if the killer hasn't been influenced by hate preachers. Obviously I could be wrong but the information we have been given so far doesn't rule it out. Islamic terrorist attacks in this country are racist attacks. There may be a racist element to them but the basic reason for islamic terrorism is ideological - a religious ideology called islam. There's much more to the attack than simple racism. For example why did this person specifically target a group of young girls dancing to Taylor Swift? Is there an element of the islamic disapproval of music (especially pop music) and dance? Is there also an element of the islamic contempt for infidel females? We don't know the motivation yet because the police have said absolutely nothing about it and I don't hold out much hope of them ever doing so. They must have looked at his computer and phone by now. |
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Post by dodgydave on Aug 7, 2024 9:44:40 GMT
Islamic terrorist attacks in this country are racist attacks. There may be a racist element to them but the basic reason for islamic terrorism is ideological - a religious ideology called islam. There's much more to the attack than simple racism. For example why did this person specifically target a group of young girls dancing to Taylor Swift? Is there an element of the islamic disapproval of music (especially pop music) and dance? Is there also an element of the islamic contempt for infidel females? We don't know the motivation yet because the police have said absolutely nothing about it and I don't hold out much hope of them ever doing so. They must have looked at his computer and phone by now. We don't know if he is a Muslim or not. What we do know is that he is black, and he targeted white children, so it's a racist attack! If it was the other way around the country would still be burning, and the politicians and media would have zero problem with calling it a racist attack from the get go. Nobody would be saying "let's wait and see". This is why the country is burning now, it's the double standards and people are sick of it. |
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Post by Orac on Aug 7, 2024 10:38:35 GMT
There may be a racist element to them but the basic reason for islamic terrorism is ideological - a religious ideology called islam. There's much more to the attack than simple racism. For example why did this person specifically target a group of young girls dancing to Taylor Swift? Is there an element of the islamic disapproval of music (especially pop music) and dance? Is there also an element of the islamic contempt for infidel females? We don't know the motivation yet because the police have said absolutely nothing about it and I don't hold out much hope of them ever doing so. They must have looked at his computer and phone by now. If it was the other way around the country would still be burning, and the politicians and media would have zero problem with calling it a racist attack from the get go. Nobody would be saying "let's wait and see". Yes. Keir Stramer would be performing a week long vigil of complete prostration and apology outside number 10 |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 7, 2024 11:07:28 GMT
There may be a racist element to them but the basic reason for islamic terrorism is ideological - a religious ideology called islam. There's much more to the attack than simple racism. For example why did this person specifically target a group of young girls dancing to Taylor Swift? Is there an element of the islamic disapproval of music (especially pop music) and dance? Is there also an element of the islamic contempt for infidel females? We don't know the motivation yet because the police have said absolutely nothing about it and I don't hold out much hope of them ever doing so. They must have looked at his computer and phone by now. We don't know if he is a Muslim or not. What we do know is that he is black, and he targeted white children, so it's a racist attack! If it was the other way around the country would still be burning, and the politicians and media would have zero problem with calling it a racist attack from the get go. Nobody would be saying "let's wait and see". This is why the country is burning now, it's the double standards and people are sick of it. Very simplistic. And probably wrong. |
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Post by dodgydave on Aug 7, 2024 11:44:33 GMT
We don't know if he is a Muslim or not. What we do know is that he is black, and he targeted white children, so it's a racist attack! If it was the other way around the country would still be burning, and the politicians and media would have zero problem with calling it a racist attack from the get go. Nobody would be saying "let's wait and see". This is why the country is burning now, it's the double standards and people are sick of it. Very simplistic. And probably wrong. Really, so you missed the initial response to the Manchester Airport violence, in which high profile politicians and interest groups waded in straight away and didn't adopt the "wait for the facts" position they have adopted now. I mean come on, you offer a high improbable motive of infidel music, over the far more likely suggestion that he had a grudge against white people lol. What is more likely, a black man is constantly told that he is being oppressed by white people, and will almost certainly have experienced some racism towards him... then flips out and attacks some white folk. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 9, 2024 5:57:04 GMT
But he didn't just "attack some white folk" - he attacked some little white girls who were dancing to Taylor Swift. Which looks very like the Salman Abedi attack on the Arianna Grande concert - and we hear that ISIS have targeted some Taylor Swift concerts in Vienna, so they've had to be cancelled. It does seem to be a red rag to the muslims.
But I doubt if we're ever going to be told if this guy was motivated by muslim ideology. The police will cover it up.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 9, 2024 7:00:13 GMT
But he didn't just "attack some white folk" - he attacked some little white girls who were dancing to Taylor Swift. Which looks very like the Salman Abedi attack on the Arianna Grande concert - and we hear that ISIS have targeted some Taylor Swift concerts in Vienna, so they've had to be cancelled. It does seem to be a red rag to the muslims. But I doubt if we're ever going to be told if this guy was motivated by muslim ideology. The police will cover it up. That is probably right, community cohesion demands it and people finding out they were right to be angry with Islam in the first place would be too many steps too far. If it was not Islam then what was it, racism or something else? It is odds on it will be a mental health issue. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 9, 2024 7:25:39 GMT
The thing about mental health is that I reckon that absolutely anyone who commits an atrocity like this has got to be a brick short. Almost all of the people who actually commit islamic terror have some kind of mental problem. But they also have an ideology - which has come from the Koran. That's what makes Islam so dangerous.
This alleged murderer is almost certainly a nut case but what the police SHOULD be trying to find out is whether he had an ideology. But our police have become liberal Lefties and probably won't bother.
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 9, 2024 7:27:09 GMT
Two words:
Moral cowardice.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 9, 2024 7:29:17 GMT
Its is obvious to anybody with half a brain that the "Southport attack" was actually a RACIST ATTACK. The same with mass immigration. It is so obvious that letting ten million immigrants in has caused many problems (lack of housing, stretched public services, driving down wages). That's before we even talk about the problems caused by the lack of integration. Do politicians and the media not understand that they are damaging the public trust in them by constantly denying the obvious? The same is happening in America. The Democrats and the media lied about the condition of Biden for years, and they suppressed the laptop story, which has led to a huge mistrust in them. When all sides lie, public trust goes, which leaves gaps for the true nutters to exploit. It's because when these bastards are recruited they lie about their abilities and previous work experience. They can achieve the impossible where an honest applicant can not. The recruiter is too stupid to suss them out because they too lied for their first job. |
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