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Post by thomas on Aug 4, 2024 17:59:16 GMT
the starmer dictator most certainly will , so I fully agree with you. When you have no majority mandate from the people , wafer thin support from the electorate , and are clueless what to do about the big issues of the day ( instead of sitting on your hands in opposition carping fro the sidelines) then the new labour way is to curtail freedom of speech . It's rinse and repeat of what we saw in many ways between 1997 and 2010. Labour has a Majority Mandate. That is the WON the MAJORITY of SEATS. Did you piss and moan when FPTP put Johnson in office? I understand perfectly how the Westminster anti democratic system works , which is why I have been keenly against it for twenty years if not more. I wish fucktards would read though what is being written and not what they think is being written. labour have no majority mandate from the people of the uk .Do you understand that point? the dodgy fptp system may have anti democratically awarded them two thirds of seats on a third of the vote , but my point about them still stands. aye. I did. Is this you now attributing yet again views against me that I dont hold? |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 4, 2024 18:07:30 GMT
Labour has a Majority Mandate. That is the WON the MAJORITY of SEATS. Did you piss and moan when FPTP put Johnson in office? I understand perfectly how the Westminster anti democratic system works , which is why I have been keenly against it for twenty years if not more. I wish fucktards would read though what is being written and not what they think is being written. labour have no majority mandate from the people of the uk .Do you understand that point? the dodgy fptp system may have anti democratically awarded them two thirds of seats on a third of the vote , but my point about them still stands. aye. I did. Is this you now attributing yet again views against me that I dont hold? Only twenty years? Do you know when the last time a UK government had such a majority? I'll tell you - ONLY ONCE in the modern parliamentary Era, in 1931. So, as realists we have no choice but to work with the system we have, and within that system advocate for change. All The Best |
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Post by thomas on Aug 4, 2024 18:09:31 GMT
I understand perfectly how the Westminster anti democratic system works , which is why I have been keenly against it for twenty years if not more. I wish fucktards would read though what is being written and not what they think is being written. labour have no majority mandate from the people of the uk .Do you understand that point? the dodgy fptp system may have anti democratically awarded them two thirds of seats on a third of the vote , but my point about them still stands. aye. I did. Is this you now attributing yet again views against me that I dont hold? Only twenty years? Do you know when the last time a UK government had such a majority? I'll tell you - ONLY ONCE in the modern parliamentary Era, in 1931. So, as realists we have no choice but to work with the system we have, and within that system advocate for change. All The Best the most unrepresentative majority government the uk has ever had since universal suffrage began............keir starmers no mandate labour government , that two thirds of the turnout didnt want , and 80 % of the electorate wouldn't vote for. |
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Post by thomas on Aug 4, 2024 18:12:12 GMT
I understand perfectly how the Westminster anti democratic system works , which is why I have been keenly against it for twenty years if not more. I wish fucktards would read though what is being written and not what they think is being written. labour have no majority mandate from the people of the uk .Do you understand that point? the dodgy fptp system may have anti democratically awarded them two thirds of seats on a third of the vote , but my point about them still stands. aye. I did. Is this you now attributing yet again views against me that I dont hold? . So, as realists we have no choice but to work with the system we have, and within that system advocate for change. I am a realist. I say no one should sit back and accept such a travesty of democracy that gives labour an unreasonable two thirds of seats on a third of the vote. The labour membership voted for pr , and labour themselves foisted pr on the devolved nations so why not for westmsinter? is no mandate starmer feart of labour never again getting such an unreasonable majority? |
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Post by om15 on Aug 4, 2024 18:28:00 GMT
Tommo, out of interest, is there buyers remorse in Scotland? Now Miliband is energetically destroying all oil related jobs, oil revenues and the prospect of the remaining few fishing jobs going to the EU?
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Post by ratcliff on Aug 4, 2024 18:28:38 GMT
Given that Starmer cannot describe what a woman or working class is, what chance of him getting 'far right extremist' right? Interesting to note that Sir Kneeler's best man was the official Olympic mouthpiece defending the XY males fighting XX female boxers in the mixed boxing event. Another idiot who doesn't know what a woman is. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 4, 2024 18:32:28 GMT
Given that Starmer cannot describe what a woman or working class is, what chance of him getting 'far right extremist' right? Interesting to note that Sir Kneeler's best man was the official Olympic mouthpiece defending the XY males fighting XX female boxers in the mixed boxing event. Another idiot who doesn't know what a woman is. Yup, that was a fucking travesty. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 4, 2024 18:35:05 GMT
Only twenty years? Do you know when the last time a UK government had such a majority? I'll tell you - ONLY ONCE in the modern parliamentary Era, in 1931. So, as realists we have no choice but to work with the system we have, and within that system advocate for change. All The Best the most unrepresentative majority government the uk has ever had since universal suffrage began........... .keir starmers no mandate labour government , that two thirds of the turnout didnt want , and 80 % of the electorate wouldn't vote for. You keep banging this broken drum. The same was true of Johnson, and indeed every Government / PM going back to 1935. What's the point? It sounds like sour grapes from a child having a temper tantrum - "w'ah, w'ah its not fair, Starmer didn't get a real majority, w'ah, w'ah, w'ah, w'ah". All The Best |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 4, 2024 18:47:47 GMT
Oh fuck me. Another fucktard who doesn't understand how our electoral system works. Labour has a Majority Mandate. That is the WON the MAJORITY of SEATS. Did you piss and moan when FPTP put Johnson in office? All The Best LOL, calm down dear and stop shouting. On 6th July Starmer hilariously announced to the country that he had a clear mandate to govern for all for corners of the UK, when he said this, two thirds of the population laughed out loud. Yes Starmer won, was it a convincing win? Of course not and it will be of little comfort to Starmer that he won an election with 34% of the vote, and in 2019 Corbyn lost with 40% of the vote. Which means Corbyn, who was bloody useless, was more popular than Starmer. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 4, 2024 18:57:27 GMT
Oh fuck me. Another fucktard who doesn't understand how our electoral system works. Labour has a Majority Mandate. That is the WON the MAJORITY of SEATS. Did you piss and moan when FPTP put Johnson in office? All The Best LOL, calm down dear and stop shouting. On 6th July Starmer hilariously announced to the country that he had a clear mandate to govern for all for corners of the UK, when he said this, two thirds of the population laughed out loud. Yes Starmer won, was it a convincing win? Of course not and it will be of little comfort to Starmer that he won an election with 34% of the vote, and in 2019 Corbyn lost with 40% of the vote. Which means Corbyn, who was bloody useless, was more popular than Starmer. More convincing than Boris Johnson's in 2019 (365 seats for Johnson, 411 for Starmer). I recall people, including you IIRC at the other Forum, declaring that was a massive mandate for Johnson to "get brexit done". Why the change of heart over what constitutes a proper mandate? Could it be because Labour won this time, and not the Tories? All The Best |
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Post by thomas on Aug 4, 2024 19:17:57 GMT
Tommo, out of interest, is there buyers remorse in Scotland? Now Miliband is energetically destroying all oil related jobs, oil revenues and the prospect of the remaining few fishing jobs going to the EU? not by me ommy , as I wasnt buying the labour parties pish. Im sure as normal many who voted labour are disillusioned and regretting their decision , but I couldnt tell you one single acquaintance or family member that I know of who voted labour . labour only win when people stay at home . you need to give Millband time to destroy the oil and gas jobs before we see the reaction. I think come winter , when an estimated 270 000 pensioners are pushed into severe deprivation due to starmers winter fuel payment cut , then we will see anger boiling over. The whole uk seems to be simmering under these Labour Party clowns . All the problems we have across the uk , and all we hear on forums like this is racist , its the tories fault , and all the other nonsensical rubbish we have come to expect from the labour goons over the years . Not one single solution . Change ? what change? |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 4, 2024 19:18:43 GMT
Funny thing, when there is a burglary, you can't find a copper for love or money they are so busy with everything else, but suddenly there are thousands of them in full riot gear protecting bad political decisions, just a thought.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 4, 2024 19:18:56 GMT
LOL, calm down dear and stop shouting. On 6th July Starmer hilariously announced to the country that he had a clear mandate to govern for all for corners of the UK, when he said this, two thirds of the population laughed out loud. Yes Starmer won, was it a convincing win? Of course not and it will be of little comfort to Starmer that he won an election with 34% of the vote, and in 2019 Corbyn lost with 40% of the vote. Which means Corbyn, who was bloody useless, was more popular than Starmer. More convincing than Boris Johnson's in 2019 (365 seats for Johnson, 411 for Starmer). I recall people, including you IIRC at the other Forum, declaring that was a massive mandate for Johnson to "get brexit done". Why the change of heart over what constitutes a proper mandate? Could it be because Labour won this time, and not the Tories? All The Best I don't think you recall 'me' declaring it was a massive mandate to get Brexit done, although I'm sure some people did. I liked Boris because he was easy to like, he had a personality. But I was always suspicious of his true feelings over Brexit. He was certainly not as pro EU as Mrs May, but I was always of the opinion that Boris was at best, mildly pro Brexit. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 4, 2024 19:26:31 GMT
Funny thing, when there is a burglary, you can't find a copper for love or money they are so busy with everything else, but suddenly there are thousands of them in full riot gear protecting bad political decisions, just a thought. I watched an item on the 8pm news this evening about three people who took part in 'far right riots' and have already been identified arrested and charged, and the police say more will follow. And in other news, two Pakistanis who violently assaulted police at Manchester airport two weeks ago still havent been charged. Two tier policing? Perish the thought... |
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Post by thomas on Aug 4, 2024 19:27:35 GMT
the most unrepresentative majority government the uk has ever had since universal suffrage began........... .keir starmers no mandate labour government , that two thirds of the turnout didnt want , and 80 % of the electorate wouldn't vote for. You keep banging this broken drum. The same was true of Johnson, and indeed every Government / PM going back to 1935. What's the point? It sounds like sour grapes from a child having a temper tantrum - "w'ah, w'ah its not fair, Starmer didn't get a real majority, w'ah, w'ah, w'ah, w'ah". All The Best boris Johnson literally got ten per cent of the vote more than what starmer did , on a far higher turnout , while starmer got half a million votes less than corbyn did , yet starmer still managed to attain anti democratically 46 seats more than Johnson did in 2019. as I said , we are literally through the looking glass now , into the realm of severe anti democracy and lack of any sort of real mandate. im calmly answering your endless misrepresentations with about as much excitedness as a child cleaning out his sock drawer. Perhaps thats why the right wing bogeymen you new labour supporters waffle on about are rioting. ? ....because new labour stole their seats , without attaining the vote share to back that up. Reform uk should at least have got something like 90 odd seats as reflective of their 14 % .instead , no mandate starmer stole them. No wonder the English are pissed off at the lack of democracy . |
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