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Post by Totheleft on Aug 7, 2024 20:29:25 GMT
Do you ever say anything else these days on the boards ? Pretty Polly, pretty Polly, pieces of eight Do you ever post anything other than total bollocks?
Rhetorical question btw, because we all know the answer.
Irony
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 7, 2024 20:40:18 GMT
Do you ever post anything other than total bollocks?
Rhetorical question btw, because we all know the answer.
Irony Certainly is, Bullwinkle.
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 7, 2024 21:09:41 GMT
Interesting to note that for some posters, the Number 1 issue in all of this is some suggestion / a theory / an opinion which is unfounded and unproven, that there is two tier policing. However, the fact that rioting in citys up and down England caused entirely by (A) the far right, and (B) lies and wrong information, is largely ignored by these posters. It seems that a conspiracy theory is more important than attempting to burn down buildings with people inside, attacking the police or attacking people simply because they are Asian and could be Muslims. No different to the Fascists of Germany prior to the Kristallnacht .... everything out of proportion, mixed with ignorance and lies. So you are calling out people for relying on theory / opinion and then you base your argument on theory / opinion. How is my opinion that most of these riots are organised by the far right a theory ?, what other group(s) would organise riots to deliberately target Mosques, shops owned by Asians, Muslim people including their homes and cars ?, the boy scouts perhaps, ?
How do you know these rioters are "entirely far right or have the wrong information"? Have you spoken to them all individually? lol. I stated that most of the riots are organised by the far right, meaning that the far right are the biggest instigators, as has been frequently stated by various Chief Constables, senior police officers, the Home Office, many investigative journalists from a wide variety of newspapers, the BBC, SKY, ITN and Channel 4 News.You do know how the Nazi's came into power right? They came into power because the mainstream IGNORED the people, which allowed the Nazis to take over the narrative. You sound like you are defending the riots - there are no issues or problems with British Muslims in Middlesbrough ( not far from where I am ), there were no problems or issues with the Muslim community in Birmingham or Southport, or in Sunderland or Hull.Starmer bent the knee over a racist attack in America, yet stayed silent when a black person commits three racist killings. They tried to set the narrative that he was Welsh ffs to try and counter any racist element lol. Starmer failed to call this out for what it was, which led to a vacuum of information and then people will choose to believe what ever matches their own echo chamber. Wrong, infact the above statement is an outright lie ... The Prime Minister has condemned the murder of the three children in Southport. Keir Starmer went along with a trend which swept THIS country, whereby many people, including lots of well known people, celebrities, entire soccer teams decided to show solidarity with the idea that All People Should Be Treated Equally, regardless of colour, faith, background etc. ( I am so glad that offends you ).
You have absolutely no idea that the murder of three children in Southport was racist, you have simply made that up. Starmer has not called it out for what it was because the police have not ever stated or indicated that the murders were racist based, your stating utter twaddle.Before you talk about due process and waiting for the results of criminal cases, Starmer bent the knee BEFORE the trial. Hence "two fucking tier".
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Post by dodgydave on Aug 8, 2024 12:25:14 GMT
So you are calling out people for relying on theory / opinion and then you base your argument on theory / opinion. How is my opinion that most of these riots are organised by the far right a theory ?, what other group(s) would organise riots to deliberately target Mosques, shops owned by Asians, Muslim people including their homes and cars ?, the boy scouts perhaps, ?
How do you know these rioters are "entirely far right or have the wrong information"? Have you spoken to them all individually? lol. I stated that most of the riots are organised by the far right, meaning that the far right are the biggest instigators, as has been frequently stated by various Chief Constables, senior police officers, the Home Office, many investigative journalists from a wide variety of newspapers, the BBC, SKY, ITN and Channel 4 News.You do know how the Nazi's came into power right? They came into power because the mainstream IGNORED the people, which allowed the Nazis to take over the narrative. You sound like you are defending the riots - there are no issues or problems with British Muslims in Middlesbrough ( not far from where I am ), there were no problems or issues with the Muslim community in Birmingham or Southport, or in Sunderland or Hull.Starmer bent the knee over a racist attack in America, yet stayed silent when a black person commits three racist killings. They tried to set the narrative that he was Welsh ffs to try and counter any racist element lol. Starmer failed to call this out for what it was, which led to a vacuum of information and then people will choose to believe what ever matches their own echo chamber. Wrong, infact the above statement is an outright lie ... The Prime Minister has condemned the murder of the three children in Southport. Keir Starmer went along with a trend which swept THIS country, whereby many people, including lots of well known people, celebrities, entire soccer teams decided to show solidarity with the idea that All People Should Be Treated Equally, regardless of colour, faith, background etc. ( I am so glad that offends you ).
You have absolutely no idea that the murder of three children in Southport was racist, you have simply made that up. Starmer has not called it out for what it was because the police have not ever stated or indicated that the murders were racist based, your stating utter twaddle.Before you talk about due process and waiting for the results of criminal cases, Starmer bent the knee BEFORE the trial. Hence "two fucking tier". Let's clear this up, I am not defending any rioters, I am actually attacking the people who allow extremist narratives to take hold because they won't face the problems the country faces. Prove me wrong, show we anywhere where Starmer / Labour have acknowledge that the population has grown by ten million since Blair came into power (85% of which is because of immigration), and that is the main reason why the the NHS cannot cope, we don't have enough housing, and infrastructure is creaking. Show me where Starmer is planning to address this with 10% more hospitals, GPs, Dentist, Houses... TEN MILLION PEOPLE... we need to be building new towns and cities ffs!!! Before you even think about mentioning it, I am not anti-immigration, I am anti uncontrolled immigration (and I mean infrastructure planning) because look at the results. I'm afraid you are wrong on the George Floyd murder. The mainstream decided it was a racist murder from day one, and all the virtue signalers couldn't wait to be seen to bend the knee. Now when a black man goes out of his way to kill three white children you spout some pious shite about there being no proof lol.
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Post by vlk on Aug 10, 2024 1:14:18 GMT
Starmer's government surely didn't have a long honeymoon.
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Post by see2 on Aug 10, 2024 9:04:53 GMT
Starmer's government surely didn't have a long honeymoon. That's putting it over mildly, as far as I can see he has been given no honeymoon period, there are just too many rather politically sick non-objective Rightists posters on the Forum, some even still insinuating lies over Blair and New-Labour.
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Post by Orac on Aug 10, 2024 9:22:18 GMT
Let's clear this up, I am not defending any rioters, I am actually attacking the people who allow extremist narratives to take hold because they won't face the problems the country faces. Prove me wrong, show we anywhere where Starmer / Labour have acknowledge that the population has grown by ten million since Blair came into power (85% of which is because of immigration), and that is the main reason why the the NHS cannot cope, we don't have enough housing, and infrastructure is creaking. Show me where Starmer is planning to address this with 10% more hospitals, GPs, Dentist, Houses... TEN MILLION PEOPLE... we need to be building new towns and cities ffs!!! Before you even think about mentioning it, I am not anti-immigration, I am anti uncontrolled immigration (and I mean infrastructure planning) because look at the results. I'm afraid you are wrong on the George Floyd murder. The mainstream decided it was a racist murder from day one, and all the virtue signalers couldn't wait to be seen to bend the knee. Now when a black man goes out of his way to kill three white children you spout some pious shite about there being no proof lol. None of this can be acknowledged because doing so would open up a public conversation and any open, public conversation would lead to the patent and obvious conclusion that the only sensible solution is to adjust immigration drastically. In my opinion we are now firmly in the downward slide towards society falling apart
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Post by see2 on Aug 10, 2024 15:21:01 GMT
Let's clear this up, I am not defending any rioters, I am actually attacking the people who allow extremist narratives to take hold because they won't face the problems the country faces. Prove me wrong, show we anywhere where Starmer / Labour have acknowledge that the population has grown by ten million since Blair came into power (85% of which is because of immigration), and that is the main reason why the the NHS cannot cope, we don't have enough housing, and infrastructure is creaking. Show me where Starmer is planning to address this with 10% more hospitals, GPs, Dentist, Houses... TEN MILLION PEOPLE... we need to be building new towns and cities ffs!!! Before you even think about mentioning it, I am not anti-immigration, I am anti uncontrolled immigration (and I mean infrastructure planning) because look at the results. I'm afraid you are wrong on the George Floyd murder. The mainstream decided it was a racist murder from day one, and all the virtue signalers couldn't wait to be seen to bend the knee. Now when a black man goes out of his way to kill three white children you spout some pious shite about there being no proof lol. None of this can be acknowledged because doing so would open up a public conversation and any open, public conversation would lead to the patent and obvious conclusion that the only sensible solution is to adjust immigration drastically. In my opinion we are now firmly in the downward slide towards society falling apart That maybe so, especially if Rightists continue to expose their inability to deal with the world rationally and increase acting irrationally.
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Post by Orac on Aug 10, 2024 15:30:01 GMT
None of this can be acknowledged because doing so would open up a public conversation and any open, public conversation would lead to the patent and obvious conclusion that the only sensible solution is to adjust immigration drastically. In my opinion we are now firmly in the downward slide towards society falling apart That maybe so, especially if Rightists continue to expose their inability to deal with the world rationally and increase acting irrationally. You mean that they don't accept their annihilation through a deluge of immigration? What exactly are you insisting on here and claiming is 'rational'?
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 10, 2024 18:51:12 GMT
Starmer's government surely didn't have a long honeymoon. That's putting it over mildly, as far as I can see he has been given no honeymoon period, there are just too many rather politically sick non-objective Rightists posters on the Forum, some even still insinuating lies over Blair and New-Labour. Blair and Brown were directly and explicitly responsible for the UK's disastrous inability to react appropriately to the Global Financial Crisis - no one else was to blame. You lie constantly about Blair and Brown a Nu-Lab in claiming it wasn't their fault - it was! All The Best
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 10, 2024 18:53:10 GMT
Let's clear this up, I am not defending any rioters, I am actually attacking the people who allow extremist narratives to take hold because they won't face the problems the country faces. Prove me wrong, show we anywhere where Starmer / Labour have acknowledge that the population has grown by ten million since Blair came into power (85% of which is because of immigration), and that is the main reason why the the NHS cannot cope, we don't have enough housing, and infrastructure is creaking. Show me where Starmer is planning to address this with 10% more hospitals, GPs, Dentist, Houses... TEN MILLION PEOPLE... we need to be building new towns and cities ffs!!! Before you even think about mentioning it, I am not anti-immigration, I am anti uncontrolled immigration (and I mean infrastructure planning) because look at the results. I'm afraid you are wrong on the George Floyd murder. The mainstream decided it was a racist murder from day one, and all the virtue signalers couldn't wait to be seen to bend the knee. Now when a black man goes out of his way to kill three white children you spout some pious shite about there being no proof lol. None of this can be acknowledged because doing so would open up a public conversation and any open, public conversation would lead to the patent and obvious conclusion that the only sensible solution is to adjust immigration drastically. In my opinion we are now firmly in the downward slide towards society falling apartThat is inevitable as long as we insist in adhering to a Neo-Liberal Late Stage Capitalist economy. The decline you allude to is not led or caused by politics, it is led and caused by economics. All The Best
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Post by Orac on Aug 10, 2024 18:58:30 GMT
None of this can be acknowledged because doing so would open up a public conversation and any open, public conversation would lead to the patent and obvious conclusion that the only sensible solution is to adjust immigration drastically. In my opinion we are now firmly in the downward slide towards society falling apartThat is inevitable as long as we insist in adhering to a Neo-Liberal Late Stage Capitalist economy. Snore Please try to come up with your own vacuous slogans I hope i'm not talking to 14 year old
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 10, 2024 19:08:29 GMT
That is inevitable as long as we insist in adhering to a Neo-Liberal Late Stage Capitalist economy. Snore Please try to come up with your own vacuous slogans I hope i'm not talking to 14 year old So my points are only valid if everything I come up with is "my own", relying on no external references? Well, OK, but that means you talk utter shite too. Or are you a hypocrite as well, and hold others to standards you don't apply to yourself? All The Best
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 10, 2024 21:23:25 GMT
Well OK - you do not want a 'Neo-Liberal Late Stage Capitalist economy' so what do you want?. It is the SNP and Nationalist aim to leave the UK and rejoin the EU - yet they are in faster decline than us.
The only European countries showing any significant growth are those from Eastern Europe who reject many of the policies that the Scot Nats aspire to.
Face it - Scotland is as signed up to decline under the late stage European social model as every other country in Western Europe.
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 10, 2024 22:34:54 GMT
why laugh , when you think 33.7% is a majority mandate. ? Errm, in your previous post, didn't you conclude that 49% was a majority?
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