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Post by Totheleft on Aug 1, 2024 21:34:30 GMT
Did them in Rochdale dishonour a town in mourning? Did them in Rochdale set fires attack police attacked a place of worship ? You need to understand what hypocrisy is, if you can’t see why what happened in Rochdale and Southport have their parallels i.e. attempting to nullify the rule of law by riot or threat of. Your comparing Apples with pears |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 1, 2024 21:35:19 GMT
And there we have the hypocrisy I mentioned to TTL, you have already decided before in one case a trial has occurred and in the other an IOPC investigation the guilt of both. As Merseyside Police have stated that they are not looking for anyone else in the case of the Southport murders, I rather think it does not require Sherlock Holmes to work out who did it. The only matter which is unresolved is why, and on what charge will he eventually be found guilty of, murder, manslaughter, murder on the grounds of diminished responsibility. ? In the case of Manchester Airport, there are unanswered questions, and I would not care to speculate what the final outcome might be, except to say that the lens does not lie. The lens does not lie? Clearly it does and has shown to do so on more than one occasion,the fact Merseyside police are looking for no one else is irrelevant to how the law in this country operates that you're innocent till proven guilty and why someone could easily point that you are denying the chance of a fair trial. Also and again like TTL you are making the assumption that the person on the floor was incapacitated by the taser and of no threat to the officers especially taking in to account the full footage of what occurred before. |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 1, 2024 21:36:58 GMT
Lol i known you thought that 😁 |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 1, 2024 21:38:03 GMT
You need to understand what hypocrisy is, if you can’t see why what happened in Rochdale and Southport have their parallels i.e. attempting to nullify the rule of law by riot or threat of. Your comparing Apples with pears No I'm comparing Asian lawbreakers in Rochdale with halfwit lawbreakers in Southport and they are as one. |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 1, 2024 21:38:44 GMT
As Merseyside Police have stated that they are not looking for anyone else in the case of the Southport murders, I rather think it does not require Sherlock Holmes to work out who did it. The only matter which is unresolved is why, and on what charge will he eventually be found guilty of, murder, manslaughter, murder on the grounds of diminished responsibility. ? In the case of Manchester Airport, there are unanswered questions, and I would not care to speculate what the final outcome might be, except to say that the lens does not lie. The lens does not lie? Clearly it does and has shown to do so on more than one occasion,the fact Merseyside police are looking for no one else is irrelevant to how the law in this country operates that you're innocent till proven guilty and why someone could easily point that you are denying the chance of a fair trial. Also and again like TTL you are making the assumption that the person on the floor was incapacitated by the taser and of no threat to the officers especially taking in to account the full footage of what occurred before. You two lets not turn this abouts the incident in Airport. |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 1, 2024 21:41:21 GMT
Your comparing Apples with pears No I'm comparing Asian lawbreakers in Rochdale with halfwit lawbreakers in Southport and they are as one. Lets take it to the other thread |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 1, 2024 21:41:41 GMT
Lol i known you thought that 😁 Well at least Bentley has the good grace to admit he made an error unlike you defending those in Rochdale who are no better than those in Southport |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 21:55:07 GMT
Lol i known you thought that 😁 It’s the whippets and flat caps that do it 😁 |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 1, 2024 22:01:23 GMT
Lol i known you thought that 😁 It’s the whippets and flat caps that do it 😁 And a foaming pint of Bitter |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 1, 2024 22:21:41 GMT
Does he? he might be thinking he can get back control, but how long will it last you can only keep the lid on a boiling pot for so long.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 22:28:34 GMT
It’s the whippets and flat caps that do it 😁 And a foaming pint of Bitter Do they do some decent draught bitter up there ?👍 |
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Post by Hutchyns on Aug 1, 2024 23:07:05 GMT
Pacifico
Let's remember that it was only the Mother who was on the flight, and that the brothers and their 6 year old nephew (the son of a serving Greater Manchester Police Force Officer) were at the airport to greet and collect her when her flight landed.
Pacifico
Again let's remember it was only one middle aged woman and not 'the family' on the flight. The difference of opinion , the trolley incident, the black eye the Mother received at some stage, none of that was irrelevant to the family ..... in fact it turned what would otherwise have been a joyous occasion in being reunited with a close relative who they hadn't seen for 2 years into a violent altercation in the Starbucks Coffee Shop within the airport terminal (possibly involving another passenger from the flight ?).
Who is telling the truth and who is lying might be revealed from other CCTV footage, ideally with sound, that might have been recorded in other parts of the airport complex. The family's official complaint, which also requests clarification regarding on what legal basis a Politician (Burnham) should be shown the full CCTV footage ahead of the accused legal representatives, may bring to light the answers we'd all like to know. As the Daily Mail reported 'A family member yesterday denied the brother had instigated the violence. 'No, they did not fight first' they said. 'A Police Officer hurt his Mum and that's when he tried to protect his Mum'.
A proper investigation into the whole situation will, I hope, not approach it from a 'the violent attack on the Police was the only thing that mattered' perspective, but will examine and pass judgement on the conduct of everyone involved in the various incidents that evening.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 2, 2024 4:26:58 GMT
What happened at Manchester Airport was not clear cut or straight foreward - whereas what happened in Southport was... Do shut up fiddles, you racist. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 2, 2024 5:28:38 GMT
Sir Keir has acted right that to the uncivilized rest that brought dishonour And disgrace to the people of Southport Who was mourning the tragic murder of there 3 young daughters at the hands of a evil young man . But them that call themselves patriots brought horror and violence to the town that was Grieving. This is what the Hooligans deserve The banning order prohibiting attendance at a regulated football game can be for up to 10 years, if a term of imprisonment was imposed as part of a criminal prosecution. In other cases it can be for a shorter period. The minimum is a ban for three years.10 Jan 2024 www.hja.net › general-crime The new order will in fact refect the Football banning order that been in use since 1985 From you of course I would expect no less Perhaps before you utter another word you might like to consider Sir Fuckwit's record Here you go ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/thread/7586/prime-minister-hold-press-conference?page=4#post-258590 |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 2, 2024 6:42:39 GMT
Pacifico Let's remember that it was only the Mother who was on the flight, and that the brothers and their 6 year old nephew (the son of a serving Greater Manchester Police Force Officer) were at the airport to greet and collect her when her flight landed. Pacifico Again let's remember it was only one middle aged woman and not 'the family' on the flight. The difference of opinion , the trolley incident, the black eye the Mother received at some stage, none of that was irrelevant to the family ..... in fact it turned what would otherwise have been a joyous occasion in being reunited with a close relative who they hadn't seen for 2 years into a violent altercation in the Starbucks Coffee Shop within the airport terminal (possibly involving another passenger from the flight ?). Who is telling the truth and who is lying might be revealed from other CCTV footage, ideally with sound, that might have been recorded in other parts of the airport complex. The family's official complaint, which also requests clarification regarding on what legal basis a Politician (Burnham) should be shown the full CCTV footage ahead of the accused legal representatives, may bring to light the answers we'd all like to know. As the Daily Mail reported 'A family member yesterday denied the brother had instigated the violence. 'No, they did not fight first' they said. 'A Police Officer hurt his Mum and that's when he tried to protect his Mum'.A proper investigation into the whole situation will, I hope, not approach it from a 'the violent attack on the Police was the only thing that mattered' perspective, but will examine and pass judgement on the conduct of everyone involved in the various incidents that evening. Well we already know from the CCTV video that that claim is untrue. In the context of the violent attack on the Police, all that went before (on the flight and in Starbucks) is irrelevant. |
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