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Post by Pacifico on Aug 4, 2024 10:56:44 GMT
There is nothing illegal in releasing his background. You are now reduced to inventing Laws. But it is very much illegal to release anything that could lead to him being identified. So, I guess a judgement call had to be made as to whether or not releasing his "background" (what specifically do you mean by background) might lead to him being identified. I'd suggest that as there is only 10k-15k Rwandans across the whole country, saying "he was of Rwandan parents and living in X" might well be more than enough to identify him. But none of this addresses the real issue: Why should we change the way we normally do things just to pander to fascist thugs who have IQs lower than their shoe sizes?The correct way to deal with that, apparently, is to send in the boys in blue to taser the lot of them and then stamp on their heads. Or does that only apply if the suspects are not white? All The Best so how is your plan working out so far?
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Post by Bentley on Aug 4, 2024 11:02:51 GMT
Banning places of worship would be oppression. The problem is some difference cultures do not want to integrate with others . That’s why multiculturalism isn’t working . It’s not just Muslims and not all Muslims . CharediJews came to Canvey island a few years ago and refuse to integrate . They are a pest , a nuisance and blight the streets that they move into. The Muslims are generally ok.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 4, 2024 11:04:15 GMT
Banning places of worship would be oppression. The problem is some difference cultures do not want to integrate with others . That’s why multiculturalism isn’t working . It’s not just Muslims and not all Muslims . CharediJews came to Canvey island a few years ago and refuse to integrate . They are a pest , a nuisance and blight the streets that they move into. The Muslims are generally ok. The thugs currently rioting aren't complying with our cultural norms and way of life.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 4, 2024 11:15:22 GMT
Banning places of worship would be oppression. The problem is some difference cultures do not want to integrate with others . That’s why multiculturalism isn’t working . It’s not just Muslims and not all Muslims . CharediJews came to Canvey island a few years ago and refuse to integrate . They are a pest , a nuisance and blight the streets that they move into. The Muslims are generally ok. The thugs currently rioting aren't complying with our cultural norms and way of life. Neither do other ethnic groups when they are aggrieved and feel they are not listened to..including Muslims , very dark and Asian looking Roma and black people. However none of your reply refutes it even addresses the post you replied to . So file it in diversion and bollocks .
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 4, 2024 11:44:26 GMT
But it is very much illegal to release anything that could lead to him being identified. So, I guess a judgement call had to be made as to whether or not releasing his "background" (what specifically do you mean by background) might lead to him being identified. I'd suggest that as there is only 10k-15k Rwandans across the whole country, saying "he was of Rwandan parents and living in X" might well be more than enough to identify him. But none of this addresses the real issue: Why should we change the way we normally do things just to pander to fascist thugs who have IQs lower than their shoe sizes?The correct way to deal with that, apparently, is to send in the boys in blue to taser the lot of them and then stamp on their heads. Or does that only apply if the suspects are not white? All The Best so how is your plan working out so far? It not my plan. It is how the law works. The correct way to change that in our system is via the ballot-box at the local, regional and national levels; but the right-wing are all bent out of shape because FPTP just handed them a resounding thrashing; that they are almost to a man complete hypocrites is demonstrated that nary a one of them protested when FPTP handed Johnson a resounding victory. The rioters are violent, anti-democratic, criminals - they should be treated as such. I note you avoided my question: What specifically do you mean by background? Afraid, perhaps, of outing yourself in the same way Fairsociety has repeatedly done? All The Best
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 4, 2024 11:49:17 GMT
1) It's NOT the faulty of society if immigrants/asylum seekers do not want to integrate with White people and their cultures, most just arrive in the UK for all the perks and mollycoddling they get from every angle.
2) They bring their children up with the same hostile attitudes, Muslims want their own schools, their own places of worship, and because they've been given all they desire this is what has caused the division, instead of making them integrate with society ....... I suggest you direct your concerns to the woke snowflake diverse culture in this country that has caused this division, and not society.
1) Well, as is clear in this and other recent threads there is a significant number of people who don't want them to integrate and actively try to prevent such integration; for example, claiming they are not Welsh even if they were born and raised in Wales. Oh, hang on, that was you - hypocrite. 2) I have already addressed the Schools, Courts etc issue, I see nothing at all wrong with people of different faiths having their own places of worship. Afterall we allow Christian Churches, and Christianity is as much an invader religion to this country as Islam or Judaism - it just happened further back in history. Furthermore, a lot of immigrants coming to this country from Africa for example are also Christian, over half of African countries are predominantly Christian (Rwanda is 93.6% Christian). Do you want to ban Synagogues as well, or are they OK because Jews tend to hive lighter coloured skins? Do you want to ban Kingdom Halls (place of worship for Jehovah's Witnesses) the Jehovah's Witnesses did not make it to the UK until the mid 1890's, the first Mosque in the UK was built in 1889. That first Mosque was built by Gottlieb Wilhelm Leitner - a British-Hungarian of Jewish ancestry. All The Best The Muslim communities asked, no demanded they be segregated from all other faiths and religions, they have never wanted to integrate with white British people, they alienated themselves by choice.
So it's no point them complaining now saying they don't feel British, they are made to feel unwelcome, people are racist....... sorry they brought this on themselves.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 4, 2024 11:55:20 GMT
1) Well, as is clear in this and other recent threads there is a significant number of people who don't want them to integrate and actively try to prevent such integration; for example, claiming they are not Welsh even if they were born and raised in Wales. Oh, hang on, that was you - hypocrite. 2) I have already addressed the Schools, Courts etc issue, I see nothing at all wrong with people of different faiths having their own places of worship. Afterall we allow Christian Churches, and Christianity is as much an invader religion to this country as Islam or Judaism - it just happened further back in history. Furthermore, a lot of immigrants coming to this country from Africa for example are also Christian, over half of African countries are predominantly Christian (Rwanda is 93.6% Christian). Do you want to ban Synagogues as well, or are they OK because Jews tend to hive lighter coloured skins? Do you want to ban Kingdom Halls (place of worship for Jehovah's Witnesses) the Jehovah's Witnesses did not make it to the UK until the mid 1890's, the first Mosque in the UK was built in 1889. That first Mosque was built by Gottlieb Wilhelm Leitner - a British-Hungarian of Jewish ancestry. All The Best The Muslim communities asked, no demanded they be segregated from all other faiths and religions, they have never wanted to integrate with white British people, they alienated themselves by choice.
So it's no point them complaining now saying they don't feel British, they are made to feel unwelcome, people are racist....... sorry they brought this on themselves.
Did not also the Orthodox Jews show no intention of ever integrating? They have Beth Din courts that can hand down judgement that are illegal in UK law. They worship in their own places of worship. They require animals be slaughtered to Kosher standards, that would be classed as animal cruelty if anyone else wanted to do it. How is that any different to some Muslims? And it people like you stirring up the racial hatred. On any properly run forum (as that was required to abide by UK law) some of your posts would have been moderated already. All The Best
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Post by sandypine on Aug 4, 2024 12:11:23 GMT
Observation of newspaper reports from police released information going back many years. Could have just answered "No, I don't have any evidence" - less letters and more honest. All The Best Even if I presented evidence you would just say it was not so. We have seen over years how ethnicity is flung out as quick as possible when it suits and is played down or ignored when the problem is ethnic minority based. The discussion as regards Harehills on this very site was very much in the trend that it was white people rioting yet all the evidential pictures indicated that the main perpetrators were of Asian appearance. Too much experience to say it is otherwise.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 4, 2024 12:13:06 GMT
The Muslim communities asked, no demanded they be segregated from all other faiths and religions, they have never wanted to integrate with white British people, they alienated themselves by choice.
So it's no point them complaining now saying they don't feel British, they are made to feel unwelcome, people are racist....... sorry they brought this on themselves.
Did not also the Orthodox Jews show no intention of ever integrating? They have Beth Din courts that can hand down judgement that are illegal in UK law. They worship in their own places of worship. They require animals be slaughtered to Kosher standards, that would be classed as animal cruelty if anyone else wanted to do it. How is that any different to some Muslims? And it people like you stirring up the racial hatred. On any properly run forum (as that was required to abide by UK law) some of your posts would have been moderated already. All The Best It is a numbers game, past numbers and current numbers. If you cannot see that there really is no helping you.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 4, 2024 12:15:02 GMT
Did not also the Orthodox Jews show no intention of ever integrating? They have Beth Din courts that can hand down judgement that are illegal in UK law. They worship in their own places of worship. They require animals be slaughtered to Kosher standards, that would be classed as animal cruelty if anyone else wanted to do it. How is that any different to some Muslims? And it people like you stirring up the racial hatred. On any properly run forum (as that was required to abide by UK law) some of your posts would have been moderated already. All The Best It is a numbers game, past numbers and current numbers. If you cannot see that there really is no helping you. Its a numbers game? So which, exact, number is the tipping point? All The Best
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Post by sandypine on Aug 4, 2024 12:23:45 GMT
It is a numbers game, past numbers and current numbers. If you cannot see that there really is no helping you. Its a numbers game? So which, exact, number is the tipping point? All The Best We are past it, otherwise it would not have tipped. It is obvious there is to be no let up in both legal and illegal migration as allowed/tolerated by this government
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 4, 2024 12:23:57 GMT
The Muslim communities asked, no demanded they be segregated from all other faiths and religions, they have never wanted to integrate with white British people, they alienated themselves by choice.
So it's no point them complaining now saying they don't feel British, they are made to feel unwelcome, people are racist....... sorry they brought this on themselves.
Did not also the Orthodox Jews show no intention of ever integrating? They have Beth Din courts that can hand down judgement that are illegal in UK law. They worship in their own places of worship. They require animals be slaughtered to Kosher standards, that would be classed as animal cruelty if anyone else wanted to do it. How is that any different to some Muslims? And it people like you stirring up the racial hatred. On any properly run forum (as that was required to abide by UK law) some of your posts would have been moderated already. All The Best Orthodox Jews have never complained, they haven't wanted everyone to convert to their faith, they have wanted separate laws to that of British laws, they haven't demanded special Mortgage services, schools, and much more, they should have been told no from the get-go, fair enough a place of worship, but that's where it should have ended, it's got to the point we have to convert to Islam and their laws..... no chance.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 4, 2024 12:28:15 GMT
Its a numbers game? So which, exact, number is the tipping point? All The Best We are past it, otherwise it would not have tipped. It is obvious there is to be no let up in both legal and illegal migration as allowed/tolerated by this government OK, so we are past it. But what EXACT number was it? All The Best
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 4, 2024 12:33:41 GMT
Did not also the Orthodox Jews show no intention of ever integrating? They have Beth Din courts that can hand down judgement that are illegal in UK law. They worship in their own places of worship. They require animals be slaughtered to Kosher standards, that would be classed as animal cruelty if anyone else wanted to do it. How is that any different to some Muslims? And it people like you stirring up the racial hatred. On any properly run forum (as that was required to abide by UK law) some of your posts would have been moderated already. All The Best Orthodox Jews have never complained, they haven't wanted everyone to convert to their faith, they have wanted separate laws to that of British laws, they haven't demanded special Mortgage services, schools, and much more, they should have been told no from the get-go, fair enough a place of worship, but that's where it should have ended, it's got to the point we have to convert to Islam and their laws..... no chance. Never heard of yeshivas? I don't ever recall being forced to convert to Islam? When were you forced? Mortgage services are commercial enterprises, as long as what is happening is legal then it is OK. There is no legal requirement for banks to charge interest on loans, they CHOOSE to do so; Muslim mortgage brokers CHOOSE not to. Why should Jews or Muslims be allowed access to Courts (Beth Din and Sharia respectively) that are permitted to hand out verdicts based on principles that are illegal under UK law - in both cases that a Woman's legal worth, and so respect in law, is less than a Man's? We should not be permitting that. All The Best
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Post by sandypine on Aug 4, 2024 13:33:18 GMT
We are past it, otherwise it would not have tipped. It is obvious there is to be no let up in both legal and illegal migration as allowed/tolerated by this government OK, so we are past it. But what EXACT number was it? All The Best It was never measured so how would I know. It is a mix of numbers, events, policies, perceptions and outcomes. The numbers are easily seen in terms of illegal migrants and continuing legal migrants the events are also easily seen both historically and recent events in both Kent and Southport as well as many others; the policies are believed to be as outlined by Labour and actually seen to be enacted by Labour, the outcomes are easily seen in what the country has become.
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