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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 3, 2024 21:08:16 GMT
Yes but in both cases it's saying that I'm something I'm not because one of my parents was. Ok . Just dry your eyes and suck it up . Don’t whine at me . I'm just pointing out the innacurray in your post. Stop whining. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 3, 2024 21:10:01 GMT
Ok . Just dry your eyes and suck it up . Don’t whine at me . I'm just pointing out the innacurray in your post. Stop whining. There wasn’t one , just you whining about an English phrase that upset you . |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 3, 2024 21:10:19 GMT
We can however point to first generation immigrants, current immigrants and illegal immigrants and we can apportion a level of risk individually to them that is greater than if the were 'native Brits' to coin a phrase. I'd just like to point out that due to risk the to public and following the commission of heinous criminal acts 1 offspring of an immigrant has been arrested in relation to the horrific events in Southport. For posing a risk to the public, and committing heinous criminal acts: 7 People were arrested in Southport. 100 arrested at Downing Street. 2 arrested in Manchester. 8 in Northumbria. So in just 2 minutes it becomes clear that it is NOT the "offspring of an immigrant" who poses the greatest risk to the public at large. It is the "native Brit" knuckle-dragging, thugs. In fact they pose 117 times MORE risk than the former. All The Best well that is nonsense - just because the Police decide to go in heavy handed against specific groups that doesn't mean those groups were more threat to the general public. it was a political choice by the police. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 3, 2024 21:10:34 GMT
As an aside , there are second and third generation policeman, military and bakers etc . So yes it does apply to jobs . In fact it’s built into our culture. There was a comic strip called “ Young sid the coppers kid” and “ Pansy potter the strong man’s daughter “. There’re are plenty of known second and third generation artists and business people. So yes it does apply… However we were talking about second generation immigrants . I can’t help that . Yes, you have second generation police officers where both parent and child were or are police officers. You're not a second generation police officer if one of your parents was a police officer but you're not. Similarly, if one of your parents was an immigrant but you aren't, you're not a second generation immigrant. I really don't see why you're having so much difficulty grasping such a simple concept. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 3, 2024 21:11:28 GMT
Now, I am not a huge believer is institutional racism. But if ever a term was institutionally racist surely it is "second generation immigrant" because it is actually describing someone who is Native Born. I get that it is a term that has been used for a long time, but it is not even accurate. All The Best As well as being an immigrant my father was also a carpet fitter. You have my sympathies - if your father had been a toolmaker you could have been the Prime Minister.. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 3, 2024 21:11:32 GMT
I'm just pointing out the innacurray in your post. Stop whining. There wasn’t one , just you whining about an English phrase that upset you . I'm not the least bit upset, just a bit perplexed at why you've made such an odd choice of hill to die on. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 3, 2024 21:12:30 GMT
As well as being an immigrant my father was also a carpet fitter. You have my sympathies - if your father had been a toolmaker you could have been the Prime Minister.. Actually you could earn a decent living as a carpet fitter back in the 80s. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 3, 2024 21:13:59 GMT
As an aside , there are second and third generation policeman, military and bakers etc . So yes it does apply to jobs . In fact it’s built into our culture. There was a comic strip called “ Young sid the coppers kid” and “ Pansy potter the strong man’s daughter “. There’re are plenty of known second and third generation artists and business people. So yes it does apply… However we were talking about second generation immigrants . I can’t help that . Yes, you have second generation police officers where both parent and child were or are police officers. You're not a second generation police officer if one of your parents was a police officer but you're not. Similarly, if one of your parents was an immigrant but you aren't, you're not a second generation immigrant. I really don't see why you're having so much difficulty grasping such a simple concept. Because jobs are not countries of origin. Your problem is that you are whining at me because I pointed out a perfectly accurate English phrase that upset you . Try whining at someone who cares . |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 3, 2024 21:15:13 GMT
There wasn’t one , just you whining about an English phrase that upset you . I'm not the least bit upset, just a bit perplexed at why you've made such an odd choice of hill to die on. Your whining is not my dying . |
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Post by see2 on Aug 4, 2024 6:00:08 GMT
A few years back I posted a comment from an MI5 officer, and if IIRC I have made a reference to it on this Forum. On both occasions that I posted the comment, which was about the posting of Right-Wing extremism on Social Media by young people some as young as 13 years old, I was told by different people on the forums that the 'Right-Left' of politics was a nonsense as there was no such thing, and that there are no Hard-Right people in this country.
Given the hard-right riots up and down the country at present, they must be eating their own words by now.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 4, 2024 6:18:14 GMT
Yes, you have second generation police officers where both parent and child were or are police officers. You're not a second generation police officer if one of your parents was a police officer but you're not. Similarly, if one of your parents was an immigrant but you aren't, you're not a second generation immigrant. I really don't see why you're having so much difficulty grasping such a simple concept. Because jobs are not countries of origin. Your problem is that you are whining at me because I pointed out a perfectly accurate English phrase that upset you . Try whining at someone who cares . I'm pointing out an innacurray in what you have said. The fact that you are now trying to make it personal talking about my supposed "whining" is indicative that you cannot defend your own position. Someone who has never emigrated cannot be any form of immigrant. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 4, 2024 6:43:00 GMT
We can however point to first generation immigrants, current immigrants and illegal immigrants and we can apportion a level of risk individually to them that is greater than if the were 'native Brits' to coin a phrase. I'd just like to point out that due to risk the to public and following the commission of heinous criminal acts 1 offspring of an immigrant has been arrested in relation to the horrific events in Southport. For posing a risk to the public, and committing heinous criminal acts: 7 People were arrested in Southport. 100 arrested at Downing Street. 2 arrested in Manchester. 8 in Northumbria. So in just 2 minutes it becomes clear that it is NOT the "offspring of an immigrant" who poses the greatest risk to the public at large. It is the "native Brit" knuckle-dragging, thugs. In fact they pose 117 times MORE risk than the former. All The Best People do not live lives in bubbles, they live them in the real world and know all the risks associated with new Britons either born as new Britons or arriving as new Britons. Bombings, random and targeted knife attacks, gang warfare, rape gangs, increased incidents around migrant hotels, people being pushed off platforms, higher incidence of mental instability. As regards your rather silly list above if we just consider risk of death and serious injury as a deliberate act by an individual against innocent children how does the risk stack up. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 4, 2024 7:30:10 GMT
Brave letter suggesting that the causes of the disturbances need to be looked at - this will not go down well with the Government. Expect this woman to be sacked within days.  |
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Post by Hutchyns on Aug 4, 2024 8:16:42 GMT
Pacifico
Judging by the speed with which she's deleted it, Donna seems to be in full damage limitation mode .... what that says about her bravery I'll leave others to judge.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 4, 2024 9:52:11 GMT
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