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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 27, 2024 18:50:15 GMT
Are we talking about disability benefits Or unemployed Dunno, are we doofus? See under the corrupt B'liar/Brown regime they rebranded many of the serial scroungers as "Disabled" and moved them onto disability benefits instead of unemployability benefits. It was their corrupt way of reducing the unemployment figures. So they blurred the lines there, doofus.
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 27, 2024 18:54:58 GMT
Are we talking about disability benefits Or unemployed Dunno, are we doofus? See under the corrupt B'liar/Brown regime they rebranded many of the serial scroungers as "Disabled" and moved them onto disability benefits instead of unemployability benefits. It was their corrupt way of reducing the unemployment figures. So they blurred the lines there, doofus. Oh did they sure you can prove it .
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 27, 2024 20:06:50 GMT
It's a matter of public record, doofus.
Google is your friend.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 27, 2024 21:22:03 GMT
Don't necessarily disagree, but the question is by whom? We can't get doctors to do it as we haven't got enough and they would be too expensive. It's currently outsourced to private companies where it's basically a box ticking exercise where lots of people are turned down automatically then have to win on appeal. Again expensive. What system are you thinking of? Firstly a full medical and report from an independent doctor before any assessment of eligibility. Not the personal GP. Who would do it? Type of people who do not put up with BS and can see through the ''I can't'' and MH b*llocks pretence often offered to the woke social workers sort who lap it up . Maybe retired middle/senior management military types would fit the bill ? I'd have assessment over a period of time , 2/4 arranged appointments in different locations over 6/8 weeks and inspectors turning up at the house unannounced/random filming - if someone is claiming to be so disabled so they cannot work and earn their own money they should be at home 24/7 - not out working cash in hand or if they are ''well'' enough to go out to friends/gym/shops they are not that disabled enough to live off the taxpayer and can work . Allow one missed random visit provided that a credible excuse is forthcoming within 72 hours - no more and if they are ''out' on a second random visit then cease all handouts . Something along those lines, there's far too much fraud from spongers and far too much ''this is how to beat the system'' advice from do gooding lefty websites and advice lines - don't expect you to agree bt you asked my view. Yes - welfare is far too easy to get, it really needs to be restricted to those really in need. It used to be a 'hand up not a handout' but now it is simply a lifestyle choice. Obviously Labour will never change this
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 27, 2024 21:50:14 GMT
I think we have found the reason for most of the shortfall..
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Post by Bentley on Jul 27, 2024 21:53:04 GMT
I think we have found the reason for most of the shortfall.. Jeez…
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2024 22:02:46 GMT
I think we have found the reason for most of the shortfall.. £180 for every man woman and child in the UK. Crikey.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 27, 2024 23:03:34 GMT
With shit like that , we might see a one term Labour government .
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Post by dodgydave on Jul 28, 2024 0:30:55 GMT
You are pathetic. I have repeatedly states that I have only ever voted Labour. I have repeatedly told you that I am a Social Democratic. If there is anybody that we should feel sorry for it is morons like you who believe that Starmer's Labour are going to make their lives better. I want a Labour government that tells the truth, what the fuck is negative about that? How do you solves problems if you cannot truth about what the actual problem is? The sad thing is we are probably politically very close on what we want, but you are so caught up in bias that you fight for the party, not the country. I have travelled all over, and I want a Nordic system here, you seem to just want a Labour government, even if they are shit! I have repeatedly pointed out your repeated attacks on Labour, as if there wasn't enough ill informed already attacking Labour when Labour were in or out of office. Why do you presume to know that Starmer will not improve the environment within the UK? And thereby improve the lot of its residents. For instance, do you really believe that Starmer's Labour can't improve the NHS from the absolute shambles it has inherited? Your bias is the absolute negative. For me you are like a typical extremist who thinks he knows everything. And has an answer to everything. I want this government to be given a chance, I don't want to see it strangled at birth. AFAICS, there is nothing better that is readily available. Wanting a government that doesn't lie makes me an "extremist" lol. Starmer lied about what non-dom status is, or how much money scraping it will make. This is the money is he is planning to save the NHS with lol. Then again I'm an "extremist", so I would have preferred a pledge to raise NI to pay for more health and social care, instead of fairytale economics. Your an idiot, you think Socialist means somebody else pays for improvements (ie the rich). Show me where that works anywhere in the world... good luck. The best public services / healthcare in the world have a high tax burden FOR ALL... that's what I want! Not some useless tosser that has spent the last four years telling us we are taxed too much (when we are not), so now can't do shit!
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Post by wassock on Jul 28, 2024 2:30:30 GMT
With shit like that , we might see a one term Labour government . It's a given. As the weeks and months roll by more and more will say, "There's me thinking the Tories were crap, but £@ me".
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 28, 2024 4:23:30 GMT
With shit like that , we might see a one term Labour government . I absolutely expect it. So do they. That's why they're going to swing the wrecking ball hard and fast. They won't get another chance to wreck the UK.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 28, 2024 4:44:47 GMT
I think we have found the reason for most of the shortfall.. Buying favour with their WEF overlords.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 28, 2024 6:44:16 GMT
So with the foreign aid and the above inflation public sector pay rises we have already found the cause of the £20 Billion black hole - that didn't take a lot of hunting...
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 28, 2024 7:25:48 GMT
With respect to the public sector, many have had a decade of below inflation or even zero pay rises. I had zero for about 8 years. So that does need to be addressed.
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 28, 2024 12:31:33 GMT
With respect to the public sector, many have had a decade of below inflation or even zero pay rises. I had zero for about 8 years. So that does need to be addressed. So that does need to be addressed.Disagree , make 50% redundant and no-one would even notice . They are underproductive , unaccountable on jobs for life . Give them a £20 m&s voucher at Christmas if ''something'' is thought necessary) What does need to be addressed about the public sector is their gold plated pensions (denied to the private sector) , the vast overmanning and lack of productivity or competence ( tried phoning HMRC recently and managed to speak to anyone with a working brain cell who doesn't simply parrot ''look on line, it's mtd and on there , no I can't ask a manager I'm not in the office '' -no it f**king isn't what's on there doesn't work why the hell do you think I'm spending hours on the phone trying to talk to someone ?) What was also very noticeable on July 4 was the complete incompetence of electoral offices and staff - I was a poll clerk that day and if there are issues with a wannabe voter that aren't rectifiable in the polling station they are given details of the electoral office and told to contact them for help. All very well apart from the fact that the electoral office shuts up shop at 5pm every day including election day Voter issues arising after 5pm cannot be dealt with and voter is denied a vote because the lazy public sector/taxpayer funded staff bugger off and switch off comms at 5 when polls close at 10pm .
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