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Post by Totheleft on Jul 25, 2024 11:14:59 GMT
BBC www.bbc.com › news › articles Manchester Airport: Police officer suspended after kicking video In this report it says a ex police officer believes that its a racist incident. There was no reason for the officer to kick the man on the ground in the head and then stamp on his head.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 25, 2024 11:21:54 GMT
BBC www.bbc.com › news › articles Manchester Airport: Police officer suspended after kicking video In this report it says a ex police officer believes that its a racist incident. There was no reason for the officer to kick the man on the ground in the head and then stamp on his head. Were you there? No. Have you read the officers notes? No. Was this ex police officer there? No. Have they read the officers notes? No. So you're both talking utter shite from a position of total ignorance. As usual in your case.
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Post by Dogburger on Jul 25, 2024 11:26:05 GMT
I think the Police must have felt very threatened that they were being seriously assaulted, even threatening their lives, at which point anything goes to repel the attackers. Well said though I think the point where anything goes is the point when these Muslim fuckers land in the UK . FFS they couldn't even get out of the arrival hall before causing an issue ,Christ knows what they get up to when they get back to the Asian ghetto's of Manchester . They should have been put back on the plane they arrived on ,no ifs no buts ,like they would have been in ANY other country in the World
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 25, 2024 11:40:42 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 25, 2024 11:41:48 GMT
BBC www.bbc.com › news › articles Manchester Airport: Police officer suspended after kicking video In this report it says a ex police officer believes that its a racist incident. There was no reason for the officer to kick the man on the ground in the head and then stamp on his head. I quite agree, four chav Pakistanis assaulting British police officers is racist. The chav who was kicked by the officer should have had the George Floyd treatment, after being tasered several times, and gassed.
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Post by om15 on Jul 25, 2024 11:44:47 GMT
If the criminal was continuing to resist arrest after attacking and injuring a Policewomen then he must expect a little rough treatment to subdue him, jumping on his head was merely a tactic to prevent him from hurting other Police Officers. I see the Labour MPs are all up in arms, the Policeman deserves an award and his improvision to subdue savages should be incorporated into every Police training manual. Lee Anderson stood up and publicly congratulated the Policeman on his actions, let's hope that the wave of criminals running riot take note, I for one will happily pay more tax to fund larger footwear for Police Officers.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 25, 2024 11:59:54 GMT
Looking at this video which focuses entirely on the kick and the stamp, raises some doubt about whether the stamp actually connected with the man on the floor, or was even intended to. It looks like the elderly Asian woman kneeling beside grasped the man's head and turned it away from the police officer, and it looks like the officer was stamping her hand to make her let go.
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Post by ginnyg2 on Jul 25, 2024 12:21:13 GMT
Violent offenders get reciprocal violence. Good. Funny how all social media posts focus on what the police did - not what the offenders did. Quelle surprise.
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Post by bancroft on Jul 25, 2024 12:26:17 GMT
I've seen the longer clip on BBC news a chap is being held on the ground and an officer kicks him in the head and then stamps on him. In another shot a different chap being held is kneed in the face by the officer and struck on the head with a weapon or truncheon, WPCs also struggle to stop someone taking film. This action follows a fight at the airport where WPCs were attacked and one had her nose broken. I have said before WPCs are not fit for front line duty barring a few that are large enough to handle themselves. The shots are damning for the officer, kick in the face and stamping must mean he is out and it is debatable if further charges should be applied. Well we do not know yet the circumstances leading up to the kick. The man on the ground tries to get up and is stopped by a kick. He has been told to stay down. He is not at this point cuffed or restrained. There is some talk as regards fear the officers would be disarmed by the assailants and therefore any force is reasonable to ensure that does not happen. If assaults have already occurred and the police have been in danger then neutralising that danger is paramount. The kick was to stop the man rising and was no doubt brought on by what went before. After having a colleague's nose broken and been assaulted in the performance of your duty it would be nice to know what was reasonable force and a kick to prevent risk of further assault seems pretty reasonable to me. If an armed officer tells you to stay down then you stay down. 'Please sir stay down otherwise I will restrain you' does not quite cut it. Did not look like either suspect was struggling, context does not come into they are meant to be professionals.
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Post by ginnyg2 on Jul 25, 2024 12:56:02 GMT
Well I've trawled all the news outlets and strangely not one has a headline reading: "Violent thugs put police in hospital and break policewoman's nose". Biased or what?
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Post by Orac on Jul 25, 2024 15:32:40 GMT
I think it's quite likely has was asked to put his hands behind his back (or similar) and was 'resisting' by simply not doing it
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Post by sandypine on Jul 25, 2024 15:46:11 GMT
Well we do not know yet the circumstances leading up to the kick. The man on the ground tries to get up and is stopped by a kick. He has been told to stay down. He is not at this point cuffed or restrained. There is some talk as regards fear the officers would be disarmed by the assailants and therefore any force is reasonable to ensure that does not happen. If assaults have already occurred and the police have been in danger then neutralising that danger is paramount. The kick was to stop the man rising and was no doubt brought on by what went before. After having a colleague's nose broken and been assaulted in the performance of your duty it would be nice to know what was reasonable force and a kick to prevent risk of further assault seems pretty reasonable to me. If an armed officer tells you to stay down then you stay down. 'Please sir stay down otherwise I will restrain you' does not quite cut it. Did not look like either suspect was struggling, context does not come into they are meant to be professionals. Not struggling does not mean cooperating and in a dangerous situation cooperation with the police is required. The woman officer obviously pointed to those responsible for breaking her nose and that then became a live situation that was dangerous. When all the body cam stuff comes out after any court case it may be interesting to see what led up to it. Footballers are also professional but kick and grab each other all day long especially if they have been kicked and grabbed. Professionals are also subject to a red mist moment if there is no cooperation and police are paid a lot less than footballers. Just out of curiosity is it OK to punch a woman in the face irrespective of what job she is doing? Multiculturalism you just have to love it.
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Post by ginnyg2 on Jul 25, 2024 16:28:22 GMT
Police are only human.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 25, 2024 17:00:48 GMT
I would be more sympathetic to damning the police action if the consequences of assaulting police was dire. ‘Hard ‘men beating police then bleating when beaten just doesn’t cut it .
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Post by bancroft on Jul 25, 2024 17:18:22 GMT
I've trawled this as well.
The guy lying on the floor has his Mum trying to protect his head as the police officer tries to stamp on him.
We were told this was a large case of affray yet only see two suspects..... are there more suspects being held or are we saying one with his Mum there decided to attack a number of WPCs.
I think there is more to this and as one retired Superintendent said the officer doing the kicking should never have been an armed officer he is an accident waiting to happen.
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