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Post by Toreador on Nov 30, 2022 17:44:33 GMT
It’s not about you . You are just parroting off leftie politics of envy . The left want to rob the rich to give to the poor lol Whats envy about that. Why do you think those with private pensions are rich and ffs stop repeating the same old mantras.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 30, 2022 17:44:44 GMT
There already is - its called the Pension Credit.
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Post by patman post on Nov 30, 2022 17:50:15 GMT
The left want to rob the rich to give to the poor lol Whats envy about that. Nothing. Except it isn’t just that, and many Left Leaders just want to penalise those caught trying to improve their situation — ie, people working to improve their opportunities to get well-paid employment. The Rabid Left’s aim is to level down everyone to the lowest level in order to achieve its version of equality. Nothing to lol about…
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Post by patman post on Nov 30, 2022 17:50:53 GMT
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Post by Toreador on Nov 30, 2022 17:59:23 GMT
The left want to rob the rich to give to the poor lol Whats envy about that. Nothing. Except it isn’t just that, and many Left Leaders just want to penalise those caught trying to improve their situation — ie, people working to improve their opportunities to get well-paid employment. The Rabid Left’s aim is to level down everyone to the lowest level in order to achieve its version of equality.Nothing to lol about… ....and to get more votes from those the system has made thick; starting point was mid-sixtires with comprehensives.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 30, 2022 18:01:12 GMT
The left want to rob the rich to give to the poor lol Whats envy about that. Nothing. Except it isn’t just that, and many Left Leaders just want to penalise tif its ose caught trying to improve their situation — ie, people working to improve their opportunities to get well-paid employment. The Rabid Left’s aim is to level down everyone to the lowest level in order to achieve its version of equality. Nothing to lol about… Many of the left supporters are small business man like me and Zany dont know how you can say the left want to lower people achivement when all we want is a fairsociety . While the right want to support mega corprate companys and the rich get richer even Its down to there detamentt
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Post by Toreador on Nov 30, 2022 21:31:16 GMT
Nothing. Except it isn’t just that, and many Left Leaders just want to penalise tif its ose caught trying to improve their situation — ie, people working to improve their opportunities to get well-paid employment. The Rabid Left’s aim is to level down everyone to the lowest level in order to achieve its version of equality. Nothing to lol about… Many of the left supporters are small business man like me and Zany dont know how you can say the left want to lower people achivement when all we want is a fairsociety . While the right want to support mega corprate companys and the rich get richer even Its down to there detamentt Don't you get richer, isn't that why you run a business?
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 30, 2022 22:20:33 GMT
I had a Business to exscape the mundane of life being under the thumb of Business before I started my business I use to work in a coldfood warehouse distribution center for Tesco at nights don't get me wrong I was fairly well paid at £12.00 per hour.plus overtime between 2-4hours at time and half rate.
So no money wasnt the driver off comeing a business man it was I wanted to work for myself .l live in a home passed down by family it been a family home since 1964 , I don't smoke or drink so had little expenditure .
So no money or being rich wasnt the reason I started my business.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 30, 2022 22:22:39 GMT
Sorry pat your post is blank .
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 30, 2022 22:27:58 GMT
There already is - its called the Pension Credit. Yea I know about that , thats why I think the state pension should be means tested has well. Do you know how many oap dont claim pension credit because they know nothing about it .
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 30, 2022 22:31:28 GMT
There already is - its called the Pension Credit. Yea I know about that , thats why I think the state pension should be means tested has well. Do you know how many oap dont claim pension credit because they know nothing about it . Well that has been one of the arguments against means tested welfare for decades - I can remember Barbara Castle railing against means testing for exactly that reason back in the 60's.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 30, 2022 22:37:48 GMT
State pension is mandatory you dont have to claim for it.
Pension credits you have to claim for it dont think its anything to do with it being means tested .
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 30, 2022 22:39:24 GMT
State pension is mandatory you dont have to claim for it. Pension credits you have to claim for it dont think its anything to do with it being means tested . Pension credit is means tested.
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Post by dodgydave on Dec 1, 2022 0:28:07 GMT
It’s not about you . You are just parroting off leftie politics of envy . The left want to rob the rich to give to the poor lol Whats envy about that. You think you are going to win an election on a policy that promises something for 45 years then breaks that promise and wrecks your retirement planning? lol. Do you seriously believe you are going to achieve a "fair" society by demonising and punishing part of it? People have known for 50+ years that you need a private + state pension to be comfortable in retirement. If you are too dumb for save for your own retirement, then why should other people bail you out? Just argue for high taxes for all, then a good state pension for all, at least that would be an honest argument.
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 1, 2022 1:19:18 GMT
The UK government spent £98.81 billion in 2019/20 on the state pension.
What would you call a good state pension for all .when state pension cost £107 Billion a year thats 2022 with a aging population its going to increase . Has my figure shows above the spend on state pension was 98.Billion in 2019/20 by today's figure its increased by nearly 10 billion in a 2 yr time span .not sure what the total spend will be next year with the 11% increase awarded .
Since 2010 this Government has been in power the state pension has gone up a staggering 40%
Like I said the state pension is a ticking time bomb it cant continue at this rate.
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