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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 15, 2024 9:23:37 GMT
The devil is in the detail. The issue: why do people decide not to go there any more. This gentleman breaks the problem down.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 15, 2024 10:33:24 GMT
The last time we bought 'fast food' was a couple of years ago when we visited a KFC in a new shopping development. I cant remember how much it cost, but I do remember the shops were busy, and this KFC was empty, that should have been a warning sign I suppose. After sampling the food both me and Mrs R were unimpressed, I put everything back on the tray and took it back to the counter. There were two staff one male one female, I pointed to the contents of the tray and told them that's why this place is empty, it's garbage. Neither of them said anything. We walked out. We generally avoid fast food outlets because as far as I can see they tend to cater for kids who tend not to complain when served with garbage.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 15, 2024 10:47:35 GMT
The last time we bought 'fast food' was a couple of years ago when we visited a KFC in a new shopping development. I cant remember how much it cost, but I do remember the shops were busy, and this KFC was empty, that should have been a warning sign I suppose. After sampling the food both me and Mrs R were unimpressed, I put everything back on the tray and took it back to the counter. There were two staff one male one female, I pointed to the contents of the tray and told them that's why this place is empty, it's garbage. Neither of them said anything. We walked out. We generally avoid fast food outlets because as far as I can see they tend to cater for kids who tend not to complain when served with garbage. The thing you got to see in all of this which answers the grand question of why we don't visit high streets is that there is nothing special about this place. It is an American chain like most of the shops, including KFC. If they are prepared to serve you up food most likely worse than third world countries like Mexico, then you can you imagine the quality of say a clothes you buy or even a holiday you book or whatever else you spend money on when you are there. It's the fuck you attitude with every sale. I personally think these businesses bring it upon themselves. You go to Japan or China and the streets are full of shoppers and the food is pretty decent quality on average according to the reports, like both cheap and good. The vendors have a sense of duty of care to their customers. Like the old service with a smile.
I was reading how this place started all those years ago.
No long lines in the video in the OP. I expect the food actually had some meat in it back then, not turd coloured damp rice.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 15, 2024 11:48:12 GMT
Actually, I think the high street has a much bigger problem than poor quality fast food. Amazon and internet shopping, for instance.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 15, 2024 12:31:55 GMT
Actually, I think the high street has a much bigger problem than poor quality fast food. Amazon and internet shopping, for instance. I know it is a popular argument, but in Japan and China their online business is even more developed. In China you can order some food up or any supermarket goods on your phone and it will be there in ten minutes, but despite all of this the streets are very lively, and you look in the evenings and they are still packed full of smiling people with all manner of attractions. In East Asian countries in general, the street food is legendary. The Koreans are shit hot at it too. These people are proper chefs and you can see by watching them work. In the UK we are faced with the fuckwit, and your experience at KFC is exactly this point - not having anything to say indicates their mental capacity. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 15, 2024 12:42:21 GMT
This is a long video, but you can randomly click on it to get a view of what is available over there. I know which street I would prefer if I were hungry.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 15, 2024 12:59:18 GMT
If you like your dogburger liberally doused in napalm, Korea is the place to go.
As for China, their cuisine reminds me of the old saying about fox hunting 'The Unspeakable in hot pursuit of the Uneatable'. Most Chinese food is pretty ghastly. It shouldn't be bracketed with Japanese, which is a totally different kettle of fish (literally).
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Post by Bentley on Jul 15, 2024 13:08:58 GMT
The food I saw in Hong Kong was more hot shits than shit hot .
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 15, 2024 14:02:17 GMT
If you like your dogburger liberally doused in napalm, Korea is the place to go. As for China, their cuisine reminds me of the old saying about fox hunting 'The Unspeakable in hot pursuit of the Uneatable'. Most Chinese food is pretty ghastly. It shouldn't be bracketed with Japanese, which is a totally different kettle of fish (literally). It's South Korea, not China. Anyway stop making excuses for your own pathetic country. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 15, 2024 16:40:16 GMT
Actually, I think the high street has a much bigger problem than poor quality fast food. Amazon and internet shopping, for instance. I know it is a popular argument, but in Japan and China their online business is even more developed. In China you can order some food up or any supermarket goods on your phone and it will be there in ten minutes, but despite all of this the streets are very lively, and you look in the evenings and they are still packed full of smiling people with all manner of attractions. In East Asian countries in general, the street food is legendary. The Koreans are shit hot at it too. These people are proper chefs and you can see by watching them work. In the UK we are faced with the fuckwit, and your experience at KFC is exactly this point - not having anything to say indicates their mental capacity. Mmmm, the obvious flaw in your argument is that the UK is not China Japan or Korea, thank heavens. I mean, in the UK dogs are pets, not dinner. Getting back to the demise of the high street - I think it started years ago when large supermarkets started to go up on the outskirts of towns which drew shoppers out of town, and at about the same time councils started pedestrianizing high streets which killed any passing traffic. I suppose you could say the death of the high street has been planned and implemented by local authorities. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 15, 2024 16:54:54 GMT
Yes the retail parks shafted high streets . They might emerge again with 15 minute cities.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 15, 2024 16:59:53 GMT
As I keep saying: The real problem with our High Streets is that they were always crap.
Hence why everyone shops online.
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Post by patman post on Jul 15, 2024 18:45:51 GMT
I know it is a popular argument, but in Japan and China their online business is even more developed. In China you can order some food up or any supermarket goods on your phone and it will be there in ten minutes, but despite all of this the streets are very lively, and you look in the evenings and they are still packed full of smiling people with all manner of attractions. In East Asian countries in general, the street food is legendary. The Koreans are shit hot at it too. These people are proper chefs and you can see by watching them work. In the UK we are faced with the fuckwit, and your experience at KFC is exactly this point - not having anything to say indicates their mental capacity. Mmmm, the obvious flaw in your argument is that the UK is not China Japan or Korea, thank heavens. I mean, in the UK dogs are pets, not dinner. Getting back to the demise of the high street - I think it started years ago when large supermarkets started to go up on the outskirts of towns which drew shoppers out of town, and at about the same time councils started pedestrianizing high streets which killed any passing traffic. I suppose you could say the death of the high street has been planned and implemented by local authorities. Planners and experts have ruined many pleasant and useful life experiences. I’ve always liked fish and chips — but these day the best ones seem to be run by Chinese and Turkish personnel. Never liked UK hamburgers or chicken outlets — the US does fast food really well — but a really good UK kebab outlet is great. So are many Caribbean roti and takeaways. Chinese and Indian restaurants cater for local tastes — though some are gaining reputations for authentic regional dishes. For authentic English restaurants, it’s the Savoy for tea, Rules or Simpsons for lunch or dinner, then followed by an evening at Ronnie Scott’s… |
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Post by Handyman on Jul 15, 2024 19:03:24 GMT
Actually, I think the high street has a much bigger problem than poor quality fast food. Amazon and internet shopping, for instance. Yes no place to park or pay to park, high rents for the shops, insurance , utilities gas water electric its easier for shoppers to drive to the nearest business retail park free parking everything in one place |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 15, 2024 19:10:15 GMT
Planners and experts have ruined many pleasant and useful life experiences. I’ve always liked fish and chips — but these day the best ones seem to be run by Chinese and Turkish personnel. Never liked UK hamburgers or chicken outlets — the US does fast food really well — but a really good UK kebab outlet is great. So are many Caribbean roti and takeaways. Chinese and Indian restaurants cater for local tastes — though some are gaining reputations for authentic regional dishes. For authentic English restaurants, it’s the Savoy for tea, Rules or Simpsons for lunch or dinner, then followed by an evening at Ronnie Scott’s… Cant beat good fish & chips, the problem, for us anyway, is finding good fish & chips. There is a good one in town we use occasionally but unless we're in town it's too far. Never been particularly big on things like burgers & sausages unless I know exactly what's in them, and I wouldn't touch a kebab. As for tea at the Savoy, or indeed Claridge's, who wouldn't enjoy that. Unfortunately a 300 mile round trip is a bit much for afternoon tea. |
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