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Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 15, 2024 8:37:14 GMT
Here is an interesting and fair interpretation of some of these Paluxy tracks which questions the lack of continuity … and throws suspicion on the interpretation of dubious imprints that only fall within a sauropod’s tread.
… It’s clear an isolated footprint is easy to ‘fake’ … and there have been many ‘carvings’ of human/giant footprints … that just look odd … not real at all … and need to be discarded immediately …
We all recognise human feet over time have come in a variety of shapes and sizes … but the Paluxy evidence is looking decidedly shaky to me now … unless these Paluxy river bed deposits contextually deliver a continuous confirmed human track … this site, as erosion continues … gets less convincing as each flood season passes and more damage is done.
Who knows if opening up a fresh area will deliver a set of human prints that are more convincing … ??
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 15, 2024 8:50:18 GMT
Does the development of apes and dinosaurs overlap. ? I cant believe im giving this thought, dub, the baron, the same person, posts stuff that i should ignore. The first ever human being to walk the earth is about 25,000 years ago, though that keep gets putting back by a few thousand with new discoveries. Imagine being born into a completely under deeveloped world with the human super intelligence. Having said that the apes that preceded them must have made an impact on the world, that survival, comfort, food, shelter etc, cant have been in its infancy. And then applying human intelligence, fire came, then an increased abilty to shape the environment etc. Maybe wild animal steaks over an open fire cant have been to long in coming, pigs ribs over a wood fire are sublime. Progress from there must have been swift, intelligence is about doing things better, quicker, etc, its a shame that normal progress has ended under socialism. The title of this OP is “Did humans walk with dinosaurs” … it’s a Mind Zone question for open-minded people prepared to go on a ‘journey of discovery’ … an investigation. It’s not for close-minded people who have already had their brains HARD wired by the Establishment. Now scuttle off to another thread … where your programming won’t be challenged. The Baron and I are happy not to have our threads interrupted with the usual copy/paste comments and criticisms that add nothing to these investigations. The fossil record convinced scientists that the coelacanth died out millions of years ago … THEY WERE WRONG … Wake up to that FACT … then consider what has been introduced in this discussion here regarding fossil records accurately dating species’ extinctions … especially when meteor strikes so drastically changed flaura/fauna and marshy conditions on Earth … drastically reducing the number of environmental sites where rapid anaerobic burial was possible … predator scavenging wasn’t possible … and rare conditions of fossilisation could still occur. Remember one other FACT …. fossilisation only preserved a tiny fraction of the many species that once lived on Earth. … and when we ‘imagine’ they became extinct. This extract from The Smithsonian Magazine: www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/has-life-on-earth-survived-more-than-five-mass-extinctions-180984594/“ The mass extinction count will likely shift as our understanding of prehistory does. Not only is the fossil record incomplete, but so is our knowledge of it. Some organisms appear to go extinct only to reappear in the record millions of years later, what experts call a Lazarus taxon. These unexpected reappearances, like the scientific discovery of a living coelacanth in 1938, then leave ghost lineages, or a line of ancestry that must have been present but has not yet been discovered. And as experts refine time frames and data sets, as well, what were previously considered mass extinctions might get split into biodiversity crises or other disasters that don’t quite meet the level of global disaster implied by the term “mass extinction.” “The Late Devonian mass extinction resulted in part from decreases in the number of new species evolving, rather than increased extinction alone,” Cole says, and in that way has led some researchers to no longer count the events in the Big Five.(Extinctions)”
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Post by piglet on Jul 15, 2024 8:54:47 GMT
Its you that is close minded. Be told.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 15, 2024 9:32:17 GMT
Its you that is close minded. Be told. So where is your evidence of that ?? … I’ve just shifted my view slightly on some of the Paluxy River footprints … but I’m still very interested in the evidence of human footprints fossilised in ancient rock. There is more evidence to come … this debate isn’t over yet … (I advise you to actually read posts carefully … and open up the Links and watch the videos in full … Don’t be like Vinny and Co. …cherry picking and too lazy to fully process … even skipping the audio ?? … then dropping comments that are a bit wide of the mark)
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 15, 2024 10:29:26 GMT
It’s a real shame we are having to repeat discussions we had on our previous Forum because one member, Vinny and others conspired together to engineer the trashing of a 19 year UK-run precious Archive of debate. From the earlier debate platform … if you remember … we talked about pterosaurs possibly surviving extinction almost up to the modern age. … humans walking with dinosaurs. Here are a couple of photos worth a look. Be aware there are a lot of fake/CGI/AI photos flying around at the moment … but these pics are well before that era … and before TV shows that tried to stage imitations of original photos … eg. this one has been imitated … … and copies photoshopped and tampered with … purely to discredit the original. As Religion and Authority constantly trashes genuine online photos of controversial topics … so we are left with meagre scraps of arguably, often blurry genuine footage. …. The Library Trashers and Editors are in control unfortunately … and need to be REMOVED … so we can get at the Truth … in everything.🤔
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Post by piglet on Jul 15, 2024 12:33:53 GMT
Thank you Dub, ive just got back from walking the hound in the remote fens, and without your guidance i would have dismissed this. Its still wet enough to for whatever to leave tracks, and there are a lot leading from Hale Fen westwards, they are four toed, 3ft wide 6ft long.
Surely the opposite is true also. Im typing this before its gastric juices go to far.
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 15, 2024 18:41:55 GMT
INTRO: On our old Forum … just before Vinny engineered it’s eradication in Sept 2022 … some of us were discussing the evidence that humans … might have walked with dinosaurs. You mean you were discussing nothing at all. Because there is literally NO EVIDENCE AT ALL that "human walked with dinosaurs". Unless of course they were dropped off there by time-travelling aliens using Anti-Grav Warp Bubbles. All The Best
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Post by Handyman on Jul 15, 2024 19:10:02 GMT
You brought it up and blamed me, rather than Kremlinbots for the demise of the old site. Btw radiocarbon dating disproves your point about dinosaurs. They died out sixty five million years ago. Don't confuse him with facts, he's a second hand car dealers dream that thick he would fall for the patter
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Post by Bentley on Jul 15, 2024 21:36:01 GMT
I like the idea that remnants of dinosaurs walked with Humans .
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Post by dodgydave on Jul 16, 2024 2:19:04 GMT
The climate changed dramatically and killed off the Dinosaurs, which allowed the early mammal population to explode and therefore speed up the evolution of mammals.
There is no way dinosaurs and humans were around at the same time, the oceans became too cold, and oxygen levels became too low for massive land animals to be able to function.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 16, 2024 6:50:52 GMT
You mean you were discussing nothing at all. Because there is literally NO EVIDENCE AT ALL that "human walked with dinosaurs". Let’s discuss the pterosaur photographic evidence I dropped … 3 specimens pictured above … which everyone has chosen to ignore … which shows a dinosaur species surviving in the Americas … hunted down to possible extinction by early European settlers. Old Photographic Evidence of humans walking with dinosaurs….oddly being ignored by modern science? The legend of the Thunderbird and giant mountain dwelling flying creatures has been forever enshrined in Native American and Indonesian Native folklore. …oddly being ignored by today’s scientists with their financial vested interests in one narrative. Try taking 10 minutes to look at these two pictures carefully … it’s easy to tie stuff like this with historic newspaper reports made at the time … about witnesses to ‘thunderbirds’ - large and powerful enough to seize human prey. Stop cherry picking your evidence … and get stuck in.
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 16, 2024 8:00:50 GMT
You mean you were discussing nothing at all. Because there is literally NO EVIDENCE AT ALL that "human walked with dinosaurs". Let’s discuss the pterosaur photographic evidence I dropped … 3 specimens pictured above … which everyone has chosen to ignore … which shows a dinosaur species surviving in the Americas … hunted down to possible extinction by early European settlers. Old Photographic Evidence of humans walking with dinosaurs….oddly being ignored by modern science? The legend of the Thunderbird and giant mountain dwelling flying creatures has been forever enshrined in Native American and Indonesian Native folklore. …oddly being ignored by today’s scientists with their financial vested interests in one narrative. View AttachmentView AttachmentTry taking 10 minutes to look at these two pictures carefully … it’s easy to tie stuff like this with historic newspaper reports made at the time … about witnesses to ‘thunderbirds’ - large and powerful enough to seize human prey. Stop cherry picking your evidence … and get stuck in. You want to use fake pictures now? Just like you use fake science in the other thread. ROFLMFAO All The Best
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 17, 2024 6:22:26 GMT
Looking again, I can see faults in parts of the top picture that suggest this particular copy I found has been tampered with … or could be a composite … but the second picture looks interesting … care to share the proof it has been faked … I’m open minded. There are debunks and debunks … and fact-checker sites are run and owned by some rather dubious unreliable Lefties and Religious factions that like to rewrite our history. …. Oh, … and while you are doing that … address the exact points in the science I dropped that you think is “fake” … ?? … you can’t make allegations like that without some evidence?? New theories based on existing scientific principles do have some validity … I dropped my evidence in these discussions … surely it’s your turn to deliver ?? (Unfortunately for some here, there is more to come - sorry to disappoint on what you’ve seen and dismissed already) … but there are other threads if you want to leave the discussion. Meanwhile … this footprint was alleged to have been taken from the Paluxy River site … and kept by the Willot Family for over 60 years : …. if the mineral content is in context with the dinosaur layers … it could prove interesting to analysts who wish to ignore the battle going on between Creationists and the powerful Evolutionary Lobby … and just get to the truth of the matter. (Personally, I don’t like either side involved in this dispute … they both have Religious Lobbies bending narratives and destroying our history, telling porky pies … and faking evidence - a phenomenon increasingly creeping into mainstream science … as we saw with the Pandemic) …. sifting fact from fiction in this soup is a real challenge …
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 17, 2024 7:34:22 GMT
Here is an interesting study of some late Miocene tracks … 5.7 million years ago … found in Crete … a mix of human and primate from the looks of the pictures further down the study paper … www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001678781730113XHmmm … 🤔 … We are still scratching the surface on our human history, imo. …. the fossil record is still pretty incomplete. It seems odd to me that in the Americas … the Establishment view is still clinging to the Alaskan land bridge migratory scenario .. of ‘Out-of-Africa’ came every branch of Human Evolution … that now forbids anything earlier than White Sands … 30,000 years ago. www.livescience.com/earliest-conclusive-evidence-found-of-humans-in-the-new-worldI like the idea humans were ‘seeded’ on our Earth by advanced visiting civilisations … amongst an array of long term Garden of Eden genetic manipulations and dinosaur experimentations … and continental drift separated them through many different phases of history …and largely meteor extinction events. . …different tribes evolving at different rates … going through explosions of cultural advancement when interacting with extra-terrestrial ‘interventions’. Some tribes like aboriginal peoples staying close to their primitive roots living in relative isolation, still using tribal skills which served them so well in hostile environments.
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Post by piglet on Jul 17, 2024 8:21:47 GMT
If humans need help in surving on earth to create cities etc, how did aliens, far far away, and with no help, survive the earliest manifestation of life, then travel the heavens to help us? Remember, the aliens that help us did not have aliens to help them.
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