Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 12, 2024 16:18:49 GMT
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On our old Forum … just before Vinny engineered it’s eradication in Sept 2022 … some of us were discussing the evidence that humans … might have walked with dinosaurs.
Here is the ‘recovered’ archive of a tiny snippet of that discussion. … which I thought worth preserving … because excavators have returned to the site … and found more human footprints in context with a pterosaurs tracks … showing these giants were likely hunting humans at that time.
… see my second post here. … if you want to skip the bulk of the earlier discussion.
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Here’s an interesting 38 min documentary called Footprints in Stone which puts forward evidence which proves without a shadow of doubt that humans walked with dinosaurs … and … wait for it … giant upright walking hominids also existed at that time. Shocking eh?
This shakes the Public’s belief tree profoundly … Note the points made at 15min and 19th min…..plus a revealing comment a geologist happy to spend huge amounts of money buying fossil footprint specimens in order to destroy this ‘evidence’ from the fossil record … and protect his career. :eek:
…. Nothing like ‘censorship science’ - to keep the Establishment’s Academic Theory from being undermined, eh?? :knife:
Comment: … Looks like the bones of giant humans found in grave burial sites around the World were real after all?
… dug up by genuine dedicated archaeologists - but later hidden and destroyed by what we thought were guardians of our antiquities?… Academia.
Interesting to note: Elusive Bigfoot is still believed to be leaving it’s tracks today … possibly another great survivor that adapted to multiple major extinction events triggered mainly by large meteor impacts.
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It is a shame this video is undermined slightly at the end by the interpretation Creationism of species on Earth was solely orchestrated by the white American Christian God in the Heavens according to the Bible. … My personal view is other alien civilisations in the heavens and other Gods might also have had the skills of advance genetic engineering to create the Earth Eden Project well before the Religious Lobby claim Adam and Eve roamed in the Garden of Eden barely 12,000 years ago max!
…. Maybe Humanity is moving closer to answering the proverbial question “What came first, the chicken or the egg?”
- My answer: “neither … periodic genetic intervention from an alien testtube … followed by minor evolutionary adaptations over millions of years”.
Does that sound like a Theory that could fit ALL the evidence? - even that hidden away or destroyed by Academia and Authority? :
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Cuckoo science?? ….. you mean covered-up science??!
If you actually watched the video and register the fossil evidence from America and around the World presented by a number of different archaeologists/geologists… expert enough to know what is a genuine fossil … showing human footprints in the same context as dinosaur impressions … one human footprint actually stepped on at the corner by a later travelling theropod dinosaur
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theropoda
…. you are looking at a human print being around sometime between the Triassic roughly 231 million years - Cretaceous roughly 66 million years ago ….
Another print from elsewhere in America was also mentioned registered in the Cretaceous period … another human track was found fossilised in Permian Sand layers …. that’s much older … 298 - 252 million years ago.
Maybe you should study these fossils before throwing your 7 million year Theory out the window!?
You can’t just ignore or trash evidence because it doesn’t fit your preconceptions.
Take the giant footprints too … where is your scientific record these upright walking hominids existed? … that made footprints 15inches in length?
Vandalising evidence in riverbeds, stealing and trashing fossil footprints is not the way your scientists should be behaving!
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… … on the surface it may look like that, Ewen! … but I think the evidence that appears in the OP is really strong, indisputable even - and worth serious consideration towards building a completely new Theory on human evolution and our history walking on this Planet - A much more accurate fossil timeline for advanced humans being together in a dinosaur context.
Who would have thunk it! - Hollywood got the context right for Rachel Welch :up: … just the title of the film was wide of the mark. It should have been “60+million years BC”!
…. nice to see Hollywood ‘accidentally’ nailed it’s history on this rare occasion … and can correct scientists/Academia for a change. How humiliating for scientists … and especially so-called “evolutionary experts”. :lol:
Irrespective of which group produced and funded this research video … the evidence looks pretty strong … more accurate than any context the ‘monkey bone’ fossil evidence the Dawkin’s Set has come up with.
I’m more than happy to highjack this research from the Religious Lobby … which as Equivocal has rightly pointed out in his Link seems to have divergent ideas where ‘Creationism’ works … …..Equivocal’s reference religious group has a propensity to erroneously put human/Earth ‘creationism’ into a Biblical context of only 9,000 years. Embarrassing - and easily dismissed.
Here is good evidenced something technologically advanced was on Earth over 400million years ago: youtu.be/jWSQlB6rczc
As you know from my two other threads in this section of the Forum … I’m not shy of expounding the theory of an Eden Earth Project being a petri-dish for extra-terrestrial ‘Creationism’ … but I like my timelines to fit the science … as do most of the scientific-minded scholars in the OP video.
I think the evidence for Creationism Theory coupled with Evolutionary Theory is a strong concept that should be on the table - new evidence is beginning to emerge to support both hypotheses … and Academia shouldn’t be destroying this.
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Pt2.
… Interesting these different footprints show such similarities to modern man/woman/Bigfoot … wandering this Earth roughly 60-200 million years later … the balance/posture/weight ratio relative to size … no evidence of knuckle-dragging ape-like gait in these tracks at all - maybe a human species already at the perfect peak of it’s evolutionary potential? …. much like prehistoric crocodiles and sharks that also haven’t changed much in that time.
The telling question is:Where are the fossilised human remains amongst dinosaur bone deposits? - will we ever find any? - (assuming none have been discovered already, removed and destroyed by Darwinians trying to protect their interests!)
Reasons none are in the fossil record could be:
1) There was such a small fraction of bones surviving from the dinosaur period … those preserved were laid down in exceptional circumstances in mainly swampy deposits.
2) These modern walking humans with a larger brain, were probably intelligent enough not to live and perish in dangerous swampy habitats pea-brained dinosaurs would get trapped in … Humans thus avoided appearing preserved in the fossil record.
3) Possibly ancient tribal tradition saw human dead ritually fed to scavenger species: Like in Tibetan sky burials: www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-16/stumbling-upon-ritual-of-feeding-the-dead-to-vulture-angels/8948332
4)Instead of burial tradition - their dead might culturally have served as ‘bait’ to catch other carnivorous species - improving survival success of the tribe. Leaving few traces.
No fossil traces.
I guess fossil experts are alert to look at evidence of cut marks on dinosaur bones? - spears/arrows wedged in carcasses would prove humans with stone tools hunted these creatures for meat … also evidence of fossil trees/vegetation cut by tools … plus examples of primitive tools/implements in coal deposits etc. … that could throw up more clues humans were around much longer than scientists initially thought.
Just dug this article out which explains the rarity of the early hominid fossil record.
apologeticspress.org/have-dinosaur-and-human-fossils-been-found-together-4664/
And the false impression the fossil record can give in recording species extinctions. eg: The coelacanth was thought extinct 70 million years ago … at the time T.Rex is believed to have bitten the dust … then one was caught and recorded in 1938.
(Ignore the Noah’s Ark bit at the end :roll: .)
[I’m reading online there’s a Lobby claiming in some circles these human tracks alongside the dinosaur tracks were “modern, carved out and faked” … amazing how Authority constantly tries to rewrite history after it has removed and destroyed things … :roll: ]
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Interesting article, PP … but do you think it gives a more accurate context ape => human of 7 million years compared to human footprints trodden on later by a theropod dinosaur from the Cretaceous 65+ million years ago?
It appears to build a hypothesis from very fragmentary data … trying to extrapolate a date of ‘human’ evolution from changes in limb density of an ape that suddenly stopped swinging in the trees.
A snapshot of a few bones of apes that suddenly had to change their foraging habits in certain regions? … for any number of reasons? - climate change, flood, meteor hit, mini mass extinction?
Saying this was the point in history approx 7 million years ago when apes turned into humans … It’s a rather an imaginative ‘assumption’.
They say the early human fossil bone record collected from all around the World … will all fit in one coffin … Would you pitch an argument humans didn’t exist more than 7 million years ago based on such a meagre set of fragments?
It doesn’t appear the conditions for fossilisation have been much good for the last 50 million years!
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Here’s an idea worth a thought …. What if the unique swampy rare conditions, that preserved dinosaurs as fossils only occurred periodically during earlier extinction events?, … if climate conditions changed drastically after a series of meteor strikes - droughts destroyed huge amounts of prehistoric vegetation to form coal layers …. deserts formed yet some dinosaur species adapted and survived for much longer than the fossil record shows … eg. theropods, pterodactyl … maybe later conditions of drought and scavengers meant their remains never ended up in exactly the right anaerobic wet rapidly buried conditions that led to perfect fossilisation?
Like the Coelacanth, rediscovered in 1938 … last seen in the fossil record 75million years ago … maybe many dinosaur species lived well beyond the period scientists assured us they died out?
Rather than shifting human evolution drastically backwards millions of years …. maybe some therapod/dinosaur survival overlapped into the age of early prehistoric man?… (shock/horror!) …. who finished the job of extinction for some species that the meteors failed to complete … destroyed most of the bones and carcasses too?
Probably explains the Tombstone Thunderbird! : youtu.be/0tb--j3PKfI
Check out the Comments section … people relating seeing similar in America more recently.
Totally freaked out by the experience!
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Here is a Link to a close up shot of the fossilised therapod dinosaur footprint stepped over what really looks like a genuine human footprint:
qr.ae/pvbWaQ
… feel free to examine it closely … personally, I’m struggling to see evidence the human footprint was ‘carved’ - as is being alleged by scientists.
If this big toe print was that of another dinosaur and the rest (small toes) ‘embellished’ as the Evolutionist Lobby are rather desperately claiming … would it show ‘puddle rings’ within the small toe prints?
Definitely interesting!
Judge for yourselves.
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If you Google “the oldest human footprint in history” … a confusion of different dates crop up … as you can see here:
www.google.com/search?q=Oldest+fossilised+human+footprint+in+history&sxsrf=ALiCzsaE5_KSi696ikhMyq3R6wAwE2c-vg%3A1661751590404&source=hp&ei=JlEMY8SkFuSKhbIPiPy32AI&iflsig=AJiK0e8AAAAAYwxfNoIJT3mAZ3hLaXv7M2DcZGD-y9f9&ved=0ahUKEwjEz_6Jq-v5AhVkRUEAHQj-DSsQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=Oldest+fossilised+human+footprint+in+history&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQgAEKIEOgcIIxDqAhAnOgQIIxAnOgQILhAnOgsIABCABBCxAxCDAToRCC4QgAQQsQMQgwEQxwEQ0QM6CAgAEIAEELEDOgsILhCABBCxAxCDAToECAAQQzoHCC4QsQMQQzoHCC4Q1AIQQzoECAAQAzoECC4QQzoHCAAQsQMQQzoKCC4QsQMQ1AIQQzoOCC4QgAQQsQMQgwEQ1AI6CAguEIAEELEDOgsILhCABBCxAxDUAjoFCAAQgAQ6CwguEIAEEMcBEK8BOggIABCABBDJAzoGCAAQHhAHOgQIABANOggIABAeEAgQBzoFCAAQhgM6CggAEB4QDxAHEAo6CAgAEB4QCBANOgYIABAeEA06BggAEB4QFjoFCCEQoAE6BAghEBU6CAghEB4QFhAdOgcIIRCgARAKUJkTWMTpAWDU9gFoBXAAeACAAbkDiAGgJJIBCDQxLjguNC0xmAEAoAEBsAEK&sclient=gws-wiz
The ‘Lucy’ pre-human clocking in around 3.2 millions years ‘allegedly’. Then there is the anatomically-modern human footprints clocking in around your number Besoeker2 … at 117,000 years old.
This PBS report of child human footprints playing within puddles made by giant sloths comes much later but still puts the alleged movement of humans moving over the land bridge of Alaska much earlier than predicted:
youtu.be/dFk7o6C2kV8
… but maybe that migration never needed to happen if humans were already in the Americas with footprints recorded in the context of therapod dinosaurs?
The conclusion you can draw from this lack of universal agreement in this field of research …. is scientists are having to revise their numbers/data and theories almost yearly … haven’t really a ‘scooby-doo clue’ … and therefore shouldn’t be setting Theories in stone … with the degree of prejudice they have towards which ‘rocks’ they consider valid … and which rocks make their past research look irrelevant ….largely consigned to the dustbin of history.
This is the reason some parts of fossilised Academia, like the powerful bullying Smithsonian, use their incredible buying power to get any specimens they want … and trash any evidence that threatens their Academic Theories and Agenda Politics.
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In the OP video ‘Footprints in Stone’ …. it mentions the removal of giant human footprints from the National Parks.
I’ve seen online some weird archaeology pics from old newspapers of ‘impossibly’ giant skeletons uncovered … and always wondered which were genuine and which were faked CGI.
Here is an article that refers to GIANT human remains and footprints from around the World … and the degree of destruction Academia, (the Smithsonian is mentioned), has engaged in to erase this chapter in archaeological history.
I haven’t checked it’s veracity yet … (will do a later post on this.)
I would much prefer to be presenting papers from archaeological sources on this subject … please let me know if there are any archaeologists out there who have the balls to catalogue this evidence anymore?
medium.com/understanding-reality/7-examples-of-proof-that-giants-existed-7e2de8806a0f
This article just scratches the surface of this subject … I will try and dig out more detail of some of the cases mentioned … if anyone local to these areas can sniff out online articles from local newspapers referencing archaeology uncovering giant skeletons and footprints … that could help build up a rudimentary archive of data for PoFo.UK members.
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National Geographic tell a different story … www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/oldest-human-footprints-australopithecus-lucy-tanzania-science
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Here’s more on the Lucy-era prints from National Geographic …. a good trackway photo from Tanzania.
www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/oldest-human-footprints-australopithecus-lucy-tanzania-science
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The fossil record suggests the Coelacanth died out 60 million years ago … not true.
So we can’t trust the fossil record to give a true indication of extinction timelines.
Related to the lungfish whose fins are thought to have articulated the ability of fish to crawl out the oceans and survive breathing on land encased in moisture …. an egg like foetus survival capsule dinosaurs mimicked to keep their young alive … which birds later adapted, grew limbs and became bipeds … so many variants. This coelacanth species probably survived by hiding in deep underwater caves.
The shark and crocodile are also survivors - that changed little in millions of years and survived multiple catastrophes that made other species extinct. Humans on the other hand are creating the conditions for their own rapid extinction in barely 200 years of technological advancement …. that is the legacy of scientists with our homo sapien’s brain! … stooooopid barely describes us right now. :lol:
My guess is many other dinosaurs survived well beyond where they last appeared in the fossil record. Why? … because the conditions necessary to create a fossil became incredibly rare after a certain period in the Earth’s history.
Explained here … are the conditions necessary to create different types of fossilisation:
www.bbc.com/future/article/20180215-how-does-fossilisation-happen
It explains why early human fossils are so rare … intelligence probably kept them out of marshy swamped areas. Bog bodies and Ortzi had v.rare conditions for good preservation in more modern times. Without these murders and ritual sacrifice … we would have little good evidence from these periods.
Cashel Man
The oldest known bog body is the skeleton of Koelbjerg Man from Denmark, who has been dated to 8000 BCE, during the Mesolithic period. The oldest fleshed bog body is that of Cashel Man, who dates to 2000 BCE during the Bronze Age.
If the peat wetlands of Northern Europe had layers going back much earlier … maybe we would see more species in unusual contexts not normally thought to be associated?
Humans (extraterrestrial tribal visitors)might have walked with dinosaurs during different intermittent periods in Earth’s history but left little trace … and dinosaurs could have survived well past their ‘alleged extinction date’ … only footprints left in the same context.
The ultimate shocker would be to find a human bone fossilised within the stomach of a predator dinosaur …. evolutionary scientists would freak out if that showed up!
Thinking aloud …. If they drained the tar pits of the world … would they possibly find human remains within the bottom prehistoric contexts layers?
…. It’s an oil derivative so it’s probably later than some coal layers?
Here are some answers on age of these features.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Brea_Woman
… the first murder of a human on record?
a-z-animals.com/blog/meet-the-holy-grail-of-dinosaur-fossils-the-la-brea-tar-pits/
Sadly, no dinosaurs found … the tar pits formed 38,000 years ago … cryptozoologists still hoping a specimen might have survived beyond extinction date in one pit or another.
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I’m not sure where you are getting this idea all life was reduced to mice and shrews after each major meteor hit extinction? … there were quite a few local ones around the World … if evolution had to start again from scratch from that … that sounds pretty odd. So many species are connected to lizards and dinosaur DNA and their origins …
There could be a few signs humans went underground to live/survive after a number of impacts.
I like the idea chambers cut underground in Turkey may have helped European survivors after the Germany impacts.
With regards scientists destroying evidence … there is the National Park track destruction in the OP video … the riverbed vandalism … the human giant bones being removed and destroyed by a number of different academic institutions mentioned in a documentary I saw and in one of the Links I dropped here.
Here is an interesting documentary on the excavation of human giants … surely this would be a major attraction for museums and Institutes?
youtu.be/KdrXqIAcOrA
Scientists don’t talk about it … and the bones have “gone missing” ….( like the UFO evidence) … you can’t trust this triumvirate of Science/Religion/Authority to preserve anything truthful in our History anymore.
…. It’s explained in the OP video why destruction of evidence keeps some careers in the mainstream … and ‘giant footprints’ are left unexplained … along with Bigfoot.
Scientists are just as bad as most humans … they lie and do things to hold onto power and influence … and keep the money rolling in …. clinging desperately to an alternative pleasurable glamorous respected lifestyle compared to the rest having to shovel sh*t and stack shelves because of stupid sanctions.
The paltry evidence of the Early Man fossil record needs challenging. … and the question “what came first … the chicken or the egg” ?? … is still a conundrum that needs a satisfactory answer!
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People have to realise conditions for effective ‘fossilisation’ are exceedingly rare and require fast burial in wet anaerobic conditions … most post-Jurassic meteorite impact extinctions didn’t produce conditions like that as the vegetation changed after the Gulf of Mexico and huge historic German/Russian impacts + those in Southern Hemisphere rarely discussed.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_impact_craters_on_Earth
… worth arguing humans were bright enough to avoid marshy ground and not murder each other in older peat bogs ritually … because religion/tribal warfare wasn’t such a ‘thing’ so much in the v. early days! … more space, less competition?
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I mentioned earlier about the Thunderbird pterosaur in America reported by witnesses today to possibly still survive well beyond the fossil record indications.
Here is a compelling report about the New Guinea version of the pterosaur … The Ropen
youtu.be/_B-R0V2KF4U
… some reporting a bio-luminescent version of the creature that hunts fish at night … … an interesting evolutionary adaptation which might show up in detail in the fossil record one day?
This flying reptile scientist dismiss as just flying fox bats … is still feared locally …tales of the beast are logged in local native folklore … have been known to attack fishermen … larger specimens reported to carry away victims and devour even human flesh.
An interesting area to explore and solve this mystery … confirming humans and dinosaur species exist in the same context.
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Following this alleged observation from Evelyn Cheeseman that the Ropen of New Guinea glowed … most likely using it’s thin skin and bio-luminescence to attract fish … the bio-luminescence in birds and reptiles shows this adaptation is still used today by many species to either attract a mate … or a food source.
tetzoo.com/blog/2020/3/2/dinosaurs-pterosaurs-uv-sensitive-visual-displays
Interesting to note the bio-luminescence on the beak of the puffin when it hunts fish. That must help mesmerise the prey!
…. the coelacanth came “back from the dead” … why not accept the pterosaur might be living well past it’s sell-by date??
It’s all about shifting timelines of ‘extinction’ scientists seem to have erroneously set in ‘stone’. Pretty irresponsibly, if you ask me … considering how difficult it has been to discover so few fossilised human remains from antiquity.
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Cheeseman appears to be an inspiration to those who wrote about Indiana Jones!
This extract from her travels exploring jungles:
“She found another encounter both ludicrous and humiliating: on the island of Gorgona, she became trapped in the giant web
of a Nephila spider. Every struggle tightened her bonds: the tough thread cut her fingers, and her teeth proved equally inept. It was almost an hour before a nail file found in a pocket seam freed her.” (Cheesman 1958, 88).
Never knew spider webs were that strong! ::
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You are not very observant … I spend most of my time on this Forum criticising Religion … and have done so in regards the 12,000 year ‘Bible creationists’ … easily dismissed - that someone dropped on this thread.
If scientists and their Academies are ‘losing’/destroying verifiable precious evidence to stop mainstream science being ‘overturned’ … we have a problem, Houston. No?
P.S. I’m a scientist by training, who uses scientific research and observation to shift scientific thinking forwards into new areas … presenting evidence which hopefully stands up to scrutiny. I don’t have a fan base I’m aware of … I’m just here scatter-logically sifting evidence that ties in with pterosaur/Ropen “lights” observations made by a respected entomologist in New Guinea … and new scientific research showing different related species using bio-luminescence to hunt for food/mesmerise a mate or prey.
Cuttlefish/Octopus and Squid also employ this ability … if you can’t follow the logic of this …. try another thread … because your arguments/accusations are erroneous here and lack proper research.
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I am sure there are dedicated enthusiasts and scientists exploring the remoter inaccessible corners of our fascinating Earth … who will one day find evidence that some types of giants still roam the Earth leaving enormous footprints(Sasquatch/Yeti etc) … and ropen/thunderbird bones might escape predation by scavengers in inaccessible locales.
Who knows … even observations of lake/sea monsters might be confirmed with a definitive specimen.
Here are more reports where a pterosaur-type creature might have survived extinction for a while …
cryptidarchives.fandom.com/wiki/Kongamato
Note the remote swamplands would provide a ready source of suitable food - fish … and less chance of predation to extinction by human hunters over the last few hundred years.
cryptidarchives.fandom.com/wiki/Bernard_Heuvelmans
This zoologist is reported to be Father of Cryptozoology … and as the article above mentions … he has reservations about the reports identifying the Kongamato as a pterosaur … distinct from certain storks found in this area - mistaken identity?
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…. er … you mean much later than the fossil record mostly shows some species of dinosaur likely became extinct??
… apart from the Coelacanth, Shark, Crocodile etc etc … possibly some pterosaurs?? - if American Indian and New Guinea native accounts are to be believed!
- Largely the life that was prone to perishing in marshy river/seabed deposits, being buried quickly in very anaerobic conditions and not scavenged.
… except this one: qr.ae/pvbWaQ
Makes one wonder if this pterosaur was hunting this human for food at that time. Bearing in mind Native American Indians/New Guinea fishermen feared the “Thunderbird/Ropen” as a predator … larger specimens able to carry off a human … as we see portrayed very dramatically in the Jurassic Park movies.
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Anton Petrov here discusses the Silurian Hypothesis … would there be much trace of early advanced Human/extra-terrestrial civilisations within the fossil/geological record … and what signs would we see if everything in our current civilisation was broken down in time to it’s elemental basics and buried under the pressure of tons of sediment for millions of years.
youtu.be/sAF8ns-d4rc
(Duration: ~ 20 mins)
This might give an opportunity for some young scientist looking for an original pioneering area of research exploring thin geological layers with very unusual chemical signatures.
I dropped this in this thread because it could suggest humans with regular feet like we have today …may have been seeded on Earth before, to walk with dinosaurs - but so far leaving no other traces in the fossil record due to fossil rarity and different habitat habits. Modern day homo sapiens left very few traces in the fossil record. It throws open questions like what proportion of our DNA comes from LUCY and how much comes from other sources … to make up modern human variants from distinctly different tribes.
Could our leap in ‘intelligence’ have been bio-engineered by an advanced visiting civilisation ‘playing God’ on Earth at some time??
…. Evolution + periodic ‘creationist’ adjustments in an Eden Project …an interesting idea .. I hope you agree!
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This piece suggests the human incursion into the Americas across the Alaskan ice bridge must have happened much earlier than scientists previously calculated:
youtu.be/y9yD9ru0Jrk
Looks like their timelines are being proven to be just ‘guess work’ …
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No point Evolutionary biologists trying to nail extinction predictions and human evolutionary Theories to a fossil record that only gives a tiny fragmentary snapshot of some life on Earth.
They should have learnt their lesson from the Coelacanth experience!
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On our old Forum … just before Vinny engineered it’s eradication in Sept 2022 … some of us were discussing the evidence that humans … might have walked with dinosaurs.
Here is the ‘recovered’ archive of a tiny snippet of that discussion. … which I thought worth preserving … because excavators have returned to the site … and found more human footprints in context with a pterosaurs tracks … showing these giants were likely hunting humans at that time.
… see my second post here. … if you want to skip the bulk of the earlier discussion.
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Here’s an interesting 38 min documentary called Footprints in Stone which puts forward evidence which proves without a shadow of doubt that humans walked with dinosaurs … and … wait for it … giant upright walking hominids also existed at that time. Shocking eh?
This shakes the Public’s belief tree profoundly … Note the points made at 15min and 19th min…..plus a revealing comment a geologist happy to spend huge amounts of money buying fossil footprint specimens in order to destroy this ‘evidence’ from the fossil record … and protect his career. :eek:
…. Nothing like ‘censorship science’ - to keep the Establishment’s Academic Theory from being undermined, eh?? :knife:
Comment: … Looks like the bones of giant humans found in grave burial sites around the World were real after all?
… dug up by genuine dedicated archaeologists - but later hidden and destroyed by what we thought were guardians of our antiquities?… Academia.
Interesting to note: Elusive Bigfoot is still believed to be leaving it’s tracks today … possibly another great survivor that adapted to multiple major extinction events triggered mainly by large meteor impacts.
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It is a shame this video is undermined slightly at the end by the interpretation Creationism of species on Earth was solely orchestrated by the white American Christian God in the Heavens according to the Bible. … My personal view is other alien civilisations in the heavens and other Gods might also have had the skills of advance genetic engineering to create the Earth Eden Project well before the Religious Lobby claim Adam and Eve roamed in the Garden of Eden barely 12,000 years ago max!
…. Maybe Humanity is moving closer to answering the proverbial question “What came first, the chicken or the egg?”
- My answer: “neither … periodic genetic intervention from an alien testtube … followed by minor evolutionary adaptations over millions of years”.
Does that sound like a Theory that could fit ALL the evidence? - even that hidden away or destroyed by Academia and Authority? :
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Cuckoo science?? ….. you mean covered-up science??!
If you actually watched the video and register the fossil evidence from America and around the World presented by a number of different archaeologists/geologists… expert enough to know what is a genuine fossil … showing human footprints in the same context as dinosaur impressions … one human footprint actually stepped on at the corner by a later travelling theropod dinosaur
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theropoda
…. you are looking at a human print being around sometime between the Triassic roughly 231 million years - Cretaceous roughly 66 million years ago ….
Another print from elsewhere in America was also mentioned registered in the Cretaceous period … another human track was found fossilised in Permian Sand layers …. that’s much older … 298 - 252 million years ago.
Maybe you should study these fossils before throwing your 7 million year Theory out the window!?
You can’t just ignore or trash evidence because it doesn’t fit your preconceptions.
Take the giant footprints too … where is your scientific record these upright walking hominids existed? … that made footprints 15inches in length?
Vandalising evidence in riverbeds, stealing and trashing fossil footprints is not the way your scientists should be behaving!
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Those religious types have finally got to you Dub... :lol:
… on the surface it may look like that, Ewen! … but I think the evidence that appears in the OP is really strong, indisputable even - and worth serious consideration towards building a completely new Theory on human evolution and our history walking on this Planet - A much more accurate fossil timeline for advanced humans being together in a dinosaur context. Who would have thunk it! - Hollywood got the context right for Rachel Welch :up: … just the title of the film was wide of the mark. It should have been “60+million years BC”!
…. nice to see Hollywood ‘accidentally’ nailed it’s history on this rare occasion … and can correct scientists/Academia for a change. How humiliating for scientists … and especially so-called “evolutionary experts”. :lol:
Irrespective of which group produced and funded this research video … the evidence looks pretty strong … more accurate than any context the ‘monkey bone’ fossil evidence the Dawkin’s Set has come up with.
I’m more than happy to highjack this research from the Religious Lobby … which as Equivocal has rightly pointed out in his Link seems to have divergent ideas where ‘Creationism’ works …
quote="Dubdrifter"]…. you are looking at a human print being around sometime between the Triassic roughly 231 million years - Cretaceous roughly 66 million years ago …. Another print from elsewhere in America was also mentioned registered in the Cretaceous period … another human track was found fossilised in Permian Sand layers …. that’s much older … 298 - 252 million years ago.[/quote
I don't believe that's quite the inference the film makers wanted you to draw. It's all explained quite succinctly here:
answersingenesis.org/dinosaurs/when-did-dinosaurs-live/what-really-happened-to-the-dinosaurs/
Perhaps you should get more into the 'spirit' of the theory.
I don't believe that's quite the inference the film makers wanted you to draw. It's all explained quite succinctly here:
answersingenesis.org/dinosaurs/when-did-dinosaurs-live/what-really-happened-to-the-dinosaurs/
Perhaps you should get more into the 'spirit' of the theory.
Here is good evidenced something technologically advanced was on Earth over 400million years ago: youtu.be/jWSQlB6rczc
As you know from my two other threads in this section of the Forum … I’m not shy of expounding the theory of an Eden Earth Project being a petri-dish for extra-terrestrial ‘Creationism’ … but I like my timelines to fit the science … as do most of the scientific-minded scholars in the OP video.
I think the evidence for Creationism Theory coupled with Evolutionary Theory is a strong concept that should be on the table - new evidence is beginning to emerge to support both hypotheses … and Academia shouldn’t be destroying this.
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… Interesting these different footprints show such similarities to modern man/woman/Bigfoot … wandering this Earth roughly 60-200 million years later … the balance/posture/weight ratio relative to size … no evidence of knuckle-dragging ape-like gait in these tracks at all - maybe a human species already at the perfect peak of it’s evolutionary potential? …. much like prehistoric crocodiles and sharks that also haven’t changed much in that time.
The telling question is:Where are the fossilised human remains amongst dinosaur bone deposits? - will we ever find any? - (assuming none have been discovered already, removed and destroyed by Darwinians trying to protect their interests!)
Reasons none are in the fossil record could be:
1) There was such a small fraction of bones surviving from the dinosaur period … those preserved were laid down in exceptional circumstances in mainly swampy deposits.
2) These modern walking humans with a larger brain, were probably intelligent enough not to live and perish in dangerous swampy habitats pea-brained dinosaurs would get trapped in … Humans thus avoided appearing preserved in the fossil record.
3) Possibly ancient tribal tradition saw human dead ritually fed to scavenger species: Like in Tibetan sky burials: www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-16/stumbling-upon-ritual-of-feeding-the-dead-to-vulture-angels/8948332
4)Instead of burial tradition - their dead might culturally have served as ‘bait’ to catch other carnivorous species - improving survival success of the tribe. Leaving few traces.
No fossil traces.
I guess fossil experts are alert to look at evidence of cut marks on dinosaur bones? - spears/arrows wedged in carcasses would prove humans with stone tools hunted these creatures for meat … also evidence of fossil trees/vegetation cut by tools … plus examples of primitive tools/implements in coal deposits etc. … that could throw up more clues humans were around much longer than scientists initially thought.
Just dug this article out which explains the rarity of the early hominid fossil record.
apologeticspress.org/have-dinosaur-and-human-fossils-been-found-together-4664/
And the false impression the fossil record can give in recording species extinctions. eg: The coelacanth was thought extinct 70 million years ago … at the time T.Rex is believed to have bitten the dust … then one was caught and recorded in 1938.
(Ignore the Noah’s Ark bit at the end :roll: .)
[I’m reading online there’s a Lobby claiming in some circles these human tracks alongside the dinosaur tracks were “modern, carved out and faked” … amazing how Authority constantly tries to rewrite history after it has removed and destroyed things … :roll: ]
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Pt3.
The switch to walking on two legs, instead of four, is a major moment in the evolution of our species, which is why scientists are keen to pinpoint exactly when it happened – and a new study puts the adaptation as happening around 7 million years ago. Not quite in the same ball-park as dinosaurs, but it could give you food for thought...
www.sciencealert.com/ancient-human-ancestor-walked-on-two-legs-7-million-years-ago-scientists-find?utm_source=ScienceAlert+-+Daily+Email+Updates&utm_campaign=a9f81dac84-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fe5632fb09-a9f81dac84-365926645
www.sciencealert.com/ancient-human-ancestor-walked-on-two-legs-7-million-years-ago-scientists-find?utm_source=ScienceAlert+-+Daily+Email+Updates&utm_campaign=a9f81dac84-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fe5632fb09-a9f81dac84-365926645
Interesting article, PP … but do you think it gives a more accurate context ape => human of 7 million years compared to human footprints trodden on later by a theropod dinosaur from the Cretaceous 65+ million years ago?
It appears to build a hypothesis from very fragmentary data … trying to extrapolate a date of ‘human’ evolution from changes in limb density of an ape that suddenly stopped swinging in the trees.
A snapshot of a few bones of apes that suddenly had to change their foraging habits in certain regions? … for any number of reasons? - climate change, flood, meteor hit, mini mass extinction?
Saying this was the point in history approx 7 million years ago when apes turned into humans … It’s a rather an imaginative ‘assumption’.
They say the early human fossil bone record collected from all around the World … will all fit in one coffin … Would you pitch an argument humans didn’t exist more than 7 million years ago based on such a meagre set of fragments?
It doesn’t appear the conditions for fossilisation have been much good for the last 50 million years!
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Here’s an idea worth a thought …. What if the unique swampy rare conditions, that preserved dinosaurs as fossils only occurred periodically during earlier extinction events?, … if climate conditions changed drastically after a series of meteor strikes - droughts destroyed huge amounts of prehistoric vegetation to form coal layers …. deserts formed yet some dinosaur species adapted and survived for much longer than the fossil record shows … eg. theropods, pterodactyl … maybe later conditions of drought and scavengers meant their remains never ended up in exactly the right anaerobic wet rapidly buried conditions that led to perfect fossilisation?
Like the Coelacanth, rediscovered in 1938 … last seen in the fossil record 75million years ago … maybe many dinosaur species lived well beyond the period scientists assured us they died out?
Rather than shifting human evolution drastically backwards millions of years …. maybe some therapod/dinosaur survival overlapped into the age of early prehistoric man?… (shock/horror!) …. who finished the job of extinction for some species that the meteors failed to complete … destroyed most of the bones and carcasses too?
Probably explains the Tombstone Thunderbird!
: youtu.be/0tb--j3PKfICheck out the Comments section … people relating seeing similar in America more recently.
Totally freaked out by the experience!
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Here is a Link to a close up shot of the fossilised therapod dinosaur footprint stepped over what really looks like a genuine human footprint:
qr.ae/pvbWaQ
… feel free to examine it closely … personally, I’m struggling to see evidence the human footprint was ‘carved’ - as is being alleged by scientists.
If this big toe print was that of another dinosaur and the rest (small toes) ‘embellished’ as the Evolutionist Lobby are rather desperately claiming … would it show ‘puddle rings’ within the small toe prints?
Definitely interesting!
Judge for yourselves.
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quote="Dubdrifter"]Pt2.
… Interesting these different footprints show such similarities to modern man/woman/Bigfoot … wandering this Earth roughly 60-200 million years later … the balance/posture/weight ratio relative to size … no evidence of knuckle-dragging ape-like gait in these tracks at all - maybe a human species already at the perfect peak of it’s evolutionary potential? …. much like prehistoric crocodiles and sharks that also haven’t changed much in that time.
The telling question is:Where are the fossilised human remains amongst dinosaur bone deposits? - will we ever find any? - (assuming none have been discovered already, removed and destroyed by Darwinians trying to protect their interests!)[/quote
There is a simple possible explanation. The bones and dinosaur bones remained for vastly different times. I remember reading about this, probably some decades ago, that the human tracks were not erased by time because of the climate. I think it was a change in the Mexican desert. I believe the oldest human footprint we a bit over 100,000 years ago.
… Interesting these different footprints show such similarities to modern man/woman/Bigfoot … wandering this Earth roughly 60-200 million years later … the balance/posture/weight ratio relative to size … no evidence of knuckle-dragging ape-like gait in these tracks at all - maybe a human species already at the perfect peak of it’s evolutionary potential? …. much like prehistoric crocodiles and sharks that also haven’t changed much in that time.
The telling question is:Where are the fossilised human remains amongst dinosaur bone deposits? - will we ever find any? - (assuming none have been discovered already, removed and destroyed by Darwinians trying to protect their interests!)[/quote
There is a simple possible explanation. The bones and dinosaur bones remained for vastly different times. I remember reading about this, probably some decades ago, that the human tracks were not erased by time because of the climate. I think it was a change in the Mexican desert. I believe the oldest human footprint we a bit over 100,000 years ago.
www.google.com/search?q=Oldest+fossilised+human+footprint+in+history&sxsrf=ALiCzsaE5_KSi696ikhMyq3R6wAwE2c-vg%3A1661751590404&source=hp&ei=JlEMY8SkFuSKhbIPiPy32AI&iflsig=AJiK0e8AAAAAYwxfNoIJT3mAZ3hLaXv7M2DcZGD-y9f9&ved=0ahUKEwjEz_6Jq-v5AhVkRUEAHQj-DSsQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=Oldest+fossilised+human+footprint+in+history&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQgAEKIEOgcIIxDqAhAnOgQIIxAnOgQILhAnOgsIABCABBCxAxCDAToRCC4QgAQQsQMQgwEQxwEQ0QM6CAgAEIAEELEDOgsILhCABBCxAxCDAToECAAQQzoHCC4QsQMQQzoHCC4Q1AIQQzoECAAQAzoECC4QQzoHCAAQsQMQQzoKCC4QsQMQ1AIQQzoOCC4QgAQQsQMQgwEQ1AI6CAguEIAEELEDOgsILhCABBCxAxDUAjoFCAAQgAQ6CwguEIAEEMcBEK8BOggIABCABBDJAzoGCAAQHhAHOgQIABANOggIABAeEAgQBzoFCAAQhgM6CggAEB4QDxAHEAo6CAgAEB4QCBANOgYIABAeEA06BggAEB4QFjoFCCEQoAE6BAghEBU6CAghEB4QFhAdOgcIIRCgARAKUJkTWMTpAWDU9gFoBXAAeACAAbkDiAGgJJIBCDQxLjguNC0xmAEAoAEBsAEK&sclient=gws-wiz
The ‘Lucy’ pre-human clocking in around 3.2 millions years ‘allegedly’. Then there is the anatomically-modern human footprints clocking in around your number Besoeker2 … at 117,000 years old.
This PBS report of child human footprints playing within puddles made by giant sloths comes much later but still puts the alleged movement of humans moving over the land bridge of Alaska much earlier than predicted:
youtu.be/dFk7o6C2kV8
… but maybe that migration never needed to happen if humans were already in the Americas with footprints recorded in the context of therapod dinosaurs?
The conclusion you can draw from this lack of universal agreement in this field of research …. is scientists are having to revise their numbers/data and theories almost yearly … haven’t really a ‘scooby-doo clue’ … and therefore shouldn’t be setting Theories in stone … with the degree of prejudice they have towards which ‘rocks’ they consider valid … and which rocks make their past research look irrelevant ….largely consigned to the dustbin of history.
This is the reason some parts of fossilised Academia, like the powerful bullying Smithsonian, use their incredible buying power to get any specimens they want … and trash any evidence that threatens their Academic Theories and Agenda Politics.
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In the OP video ‘Footprints in Stone’ …. it mentions the removal of giant human footprints from the National Parks.
I’ve seen online some weird archaeology pics from old newspapers of ‘impossibly’ giant skeletons uncovered … and always wondered which were genuine and which were faked CGI.
Here is an article that refers to GIANT human remains and footprints from around the World … and the degree of destruction Academia, (the Smithsonian is mentioned), has engaged in to erase this chapter in archaeological history.
I haven’t checked it’s veracity yet … (will do a later post on this.)
I would much prefer to be presenting papers from archaeological sources on this subject … please let me know if there are any archaeologists out there who have the balls to catalogue this evidence anymore?
medium.com/understanding-reality/7-examples-of-proof-that-giants-existed-7e2de8806a0f
This article just scratches the surface of this subject … I will try and dig out more detail of some of the cases mentioned … if anyone local to these areas can sniff out online articles from local newspapers referencing archaeology uncovering giant skeletons and footprints … that could help build up a rudimentary archive of data for PoFo.UK members.
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National Geographic tell a different story … www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/oldest-human-footprints-australopithecus-lucy-tanzania-science
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Here’s more on the Lucy-era prints from National Geographic …. a good trackway photo from Tanzania.
www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/oldest-human-footprints-australopithecus-lucy-tanzania-science
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When the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs hit the earth it also wiped out all other life forms except small creatures like shrews. If humans existed at that point, they would have been wiped out. You're essentially saying that humans evolved, were wiped out, and evolved once again in exactly the same form. It seems unlikey. I haven't read the entire thread, so this point may have been made already.
So we can’t trust the fossil record to give a true indication of extinction timelines.
Related to the lungfish whose fins are thought to have articulated the ability of fish to crawl out the oceans and survive breathing on land encased in moisture …. an egg like foetus survival capsule dinosaurs mimicked to keep their young alive … which birds later adapted, grew limbs and became bipeds … so many variants. This coelacanth species probably survived by hiding in deep underwater caves.
The shark and crocodile are also survivors - that changed little in millions of years and survived multiple catastrophes that made other species extinct. Humans on the other hand are creating the conditions for their own rapid extinction in barely 200 years of technological advancement …. that is the legacy of scientists with our homo sapien’s brain! … stooooopid barely describes us right now. :lol:
My guess is many other dinosaurs survived well beyond where they last appeared in the fossil record. Why? … because the conditions necessary to create a fossil became incredibly rare after a certain period in the Earth’s history.
Explained here … are the conditions necessary to create different types of fossilisation:
www.bbc.com/future/article/20180215-how-does-fossilisation-happen
It explains why early human fossils are so rare … intelligence probably kept them out of marshy swamped areas. Bog bodies and Ortzi had v.rare conditions for good preservation in more modern times. Without these murders and ritual sacrifice … we would have little good evidence from these periods.
Cashel Man
The oldest known bog body is the skeleton of Koelbjerg Man from Denmark, who has been dated to 8000 BCE, during the Mesolithic period. The oldest fleshed bog body is that of Cashel Man, who dates to 2000 BCE during the Bronze Age.
If the peat wetlands of Northern Europe had layers going back much earlier … maybe we would see more species in unusual contexts not normally thought to be associated?
Humans (extraterrestrial tribal visitors)might have walked with dinosaurs during different intermittent periods in Earth’s history but left little trace … and dinosaurs could have survived well past their ‘alleged extinction date’ … only footprints left in the same context.
The ultimate shocker would be to find a human bone fossilised within the stomach of a predator dinosaur …. evolutionary scientists would freak out if that showed up!
Thinking aloud …. If they drained the tar pits of the world … would they possibly find human remains within the bottom prehistoric contexts layers?
…. It’s an oil derivative so it’s probably later than some coal layers?
Here are some answers on age of these features.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Brea_Woman
… the first murder of a human on record?
a-z-animals.com/blog/meet-the-holy-grail-of-dinosaur-fossils-the-la-brea-tar-pits/
Sadly, no dinosaurs found … the tar pits formed 38,000 years ago … cryptozoologists still hoping a specimen might have survived beyond extinction date in one pit or another.
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I’m not sure where you are getting this idea all life was reduced to mice and shrews after each major meteor hit extinction? … there were quite a few local ones around the World … if evolution had to start again from scratch from that … that sounds pretty odd. So many species are connected to lizards and dinosaur DNA and their origins …
There could be a few signs humans went underground to live/survive after a number of impacts.
I like the idea chambers cut underground in Turkey may have helped European survivors after the Germany impacts.
With regards scientists destroying evidence … there is the National Park track destruction in the OP video … the riverbed vandalism … the human giant bones being removed and destroyed by a number of different academic institutions mentioned in a documentary I saw and in one of the Links I dropped here.
Here is an interesting documentary on the excavation of human giants … surely this would be a major attraction for museums and Institutes?
youtu.be/KdrXqIAcOrA
Scientists don’t talk about it … and the bones have “gone missing” ….( like the UFO evidence) … you can’t trust this triumvirate of Science/Religion/Authority to preserve anything truthful in our History anymore.
…. It’s explained in the OP video why destruction of evidence keeps some careers in the mainstream … and ‘giant footprints’ are left unexplained … along with Bigfoot.
Scientists are just as bad as most humans … they lie and do things to hold onto power and influence … and keep the money rolling in …. clinging desperately to an alternative pleasurable glamorous respected lifestyle compared to the rest having to shovel sh*t and stack shelves because of stupid sanctions.
The paltry evidence of the Early Man fossil record needs challenging. … and the question “what came first … the chicken or the egg” ?? … is still a conundrum that needs a satisfactory answer!
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People have to realise conditions for effective ‘fossilisation’ are exceedingly rare and require fast burial in wet anaerobic conditions … most post-Jurassic meteorite impact extinctions didn’t produce conditions like that as the vegetation changed after the Gulf of Mexico and huge historic German/Russian impacts + those in Southern Hemisphere rarely discussed.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_impact_craters_on_Earth
… worth arguing humans were bright enough to avoid marshy ground and not murder each other in older peat bogs ritually … because religion/tribal warfare wasn’t such a ‘thing’ so much in the v. early days! … more space, less competition?
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I mentioned earlier about the Thunderbird pterosaur in America reported by witnesses today to possibly still survive well beyond the fossil record indications.
Here is a compelling report about the New Guinea version of the pterosaur … The Ropen
youtu.be/_B-R0V2KF4U
… some reporting a bio-luminescent version of the creature that hunts fish at night … … an interesting evolutionary adaptation which might show up in detail in the fossil record one day?
This flying reptile scientist dismiss as just flying fox bats … is still feared locally …tales of the beast are logged in local native folklore … have been known to attack fishermen … larger specimens reported to carry away victims and devour even human flesh.
An interesting area to explore and solve this mystery … confirming humans and dinosaur species exist in the same context.
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Following this alleged observation from Evelyn Cheeseman that the Ropen of New Guinea glowed … most likely using it’s thin skin and bio-luminescence to attract fish … the bio-luminescence in birds and reptiles shows this adaptation is still used today by many species to either attract a mate … or a food source.
tetzoo.com/blog/2020/3/2/dinosaurs-pterosaurs-uv-sensitive-visual-displays
Interesting to note the bio-luminescence on the beak of the puffin when it hunts fish. That must help mesmerise the prey!
…. the coelacanth came “back from the dead” … why not accept the pterosaur might be living well past it’s sell-by date??
It’s all about shifting timelines of ‘extinction’ scientists seem to have erroneously set in ‘stone’. Pretty irresponsibly, if you ask me … considering how difficult it has been to discover so few fossilised human remains from antiquity.
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Cheeseman appears to be an inspiration to those who wrote about Indiana Jones!
This extract from her travels exploring jungles:
“She found another encounter both ludicrous and humiliating: on the island of Gorgona, she became trapped in the giant web
of a Nephila spider. Every struggle tightened her bonds: the tough thread cut her fingers, and her teeth proved equally inept. It was almost an hour before a nail file found in a pocket seam freed her.” (Cheesman 1958, 88).
Never knew spider webs were that strong! :
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Nothing is set in stone in science, you've just shown us that yourself in this post. If we find, for example, a skeleton of a recently deceased pterosaur specimen the current thinking will be overturned, same as the coelacanth. Same old story which upsets many of your fans - show us some verifiable evidence. Mainstream science has been overturned many times in that way.
Science is so much easier to convince than people such as yourself with your absolute unerring faith that you're right. As I say - you're a religious thinker. No big deal, people like you are in the majority on this planet!
Science is so much easier to convince than people such as yourself with your absolute unerring faith that you're right. As I say - you're a religious thinker. No big deal, people like you are in the majority on this planet!
If scientists and their Academies are ‘losing’/destroying verifiable precious evidence to stop mainstream science being ‘overturned’ … we have a problem, Houston. No?
P.S. I’m a scientist by training, who uses scientific research and observation to shift scientific thinking forwards into new areas … presenting evidence which hopefully stands up to scrutiny. I don’t have a fan base I’m aware of … I’m just here scatter-logically sifting evidence that ties in with pterosaur/Ropen “lights” observations made by a respected entomologist in New Guinea … and new scientific research showing different related species using bio-luminescence to hunt for food/mesmerise a mate or prey.
Cuttlefish/Octopus and Squid also employ this ability … if you can’t follow the logic of this …. try another thread … because your arguments/accusations are erroneous here and lack proper research.
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I am sure there are dedicated enthusiasts and scientists exploring the remoter inaccessible corners of our fascinating Earth … who will one day find evidence that some types of giants still roam the Earth leaving enormous footprints(Sasquatch/Yeti etc) … and ropen/thunderbird bones might escape predation by scavengers in inaccessible locales.
Who knows … even observations of lake/sea monsters might be confirmed with a definitive specimen.
Here are more reports where a pterosaur-type creature might have survived extinction for a while …
cryptidarchives.fandom.com/wiki/Kongamato
Note the remote swamplands would provide a ready source of suitable food - fish … and less chance of predation to extinction by human hunters over the last few hundred years.
cryptidarchives.fandom.com/wiki/Bernard_Heuvelmans
This zoologist is reported to be Father of Cryptozoology … and as the article above mentions … he has reservations about the reports identifying the Kongamato as a pterosaur … distinct from certain storks found in this area - mistaken identity?
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quote="Dubdrifter"]It mentions the 'Lucy' skeleton and shows the remains recovered ... dated roughly 3 million years old.[/quote
Which was a lot earlier than dinosaurs.
Which was a lot earlier than dinosaurs.
: …. er … you mean much later than the fossil record mostly shows some species of dinosaur likely became extinct??
… apart from the Coelacanth, Shark, Crocodile etc etc … possibly some pterosaurs?? - if American Indian and New Guinea native accounts are to be believed!
- Largely the life that was prone to perishing in marshy river/seabed deposits, being buried quickly in very anaerobic conditions and not scavenged.
… except this one: qr.ae/pvbWaQ
Makes one wonder if this pterosaur was hunting this human for food at that time. Bearing in mind Native American Indians/New Guinea fishermen feared the “Thunderbird/Ropen” as a predator … larger specimens able to carry off a human … as we see portrayed very dramatically in the Jurassic Park movies.
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Anton Petrov here discusses the Silurian Hypothesis … would there be much trace of early advanced Human/extra-terrestrial civilisations within the fossil/geological record … and what signs would we see if everything in our current civilisation was broken down in time to it’s elemental basics and buried under the pressure of tons of sediment for millions of years.
youtu.be/sAF8ns-d4rc
(Duration: ~ 20 mins)
This might give an opportunity for some young scientist looking for an original pioneering area of research exploring thin geological layers with very unusual chemical signatures.
I dropped this in this thread because it could suggest humans with regular feet like we have today …may have been seeded on Earth before, to walk with dinosaurs - but so far leaving no other traces in the fossil record due to fossil rarity and different habitat habits. Modern day homo sapiens left very few traces in the fossil record. It throws open questions like what proportion of our DNA comes from LUCY and how much comes from other sources … to make up modern human variants from distinctly different tribes.
Could our leap in ‘intelligence’ have been bio-engineered by an advanced visiting civilisation ‘playing God’ on Earth at some time??
…. Evolution + periodic ‘creationist’ adjustments in an Eden Project …an interesting idea .. I hope you agree!
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This piece suggests the human incursion into the Americas across the Alaskan ice bridge must have happened much earlier than scientists previously calculated:
youtu.be/y9yD9ru0Jrk
Looks like their timelines are being proven to be just ‘guess work’ …
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No point Evolutionary biologists trying to nail extinction predictions and human evolutionary Theories to a fossil record that only gives a tiny fragmentary snapshot of some life on Earth.
They should have learnt their lesson from the Coelacanth experience!
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