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Post by Handyman on Jul 11, 2024 17:08:28 GMT
You can always find spurious links with Left wing terror groups to Left wing organisations, same as you can also find spurious links to Right wing terror groups to Right wing organisations. In reality however, support of terrorism or terror groups is not tollerated in either political party. Perhaps the most shamefull example in Conservative Party history would be Margaret Thatchers support for General Augusto Pinnochet, the Chilean dictator who butchered, murdered and tortured thousands of people. This article International Business Times sums it up in my opinion Pinochet’s relationship with Thatcher remains a sore point for the Conservative Party. Pinochet earned Thatcher’s eternal gratitude by remaining officially neutral during the 1982 Falklands War that pitted the United Kingdom against Chile’s neighbor, Argentina. Thatcher repaid the favor by standing by Pinochet as the general found himself in an international spider web of legal problems, criminal charges related to his rule as well as accusations of massive embezzlement. In 1990, Pinochet stepped down as president of Chile, but remained commander-in-chief of the military for another eight years, when he was arrested in London over a raft of charges, including various human rights violations. Between October 1998 and March 2000, he remained in the United Kingdom (effectively, under house arrest), a pawn in a diplomatic tussle among Britain, Chile and Spain (who were demanding his extradition), Pinochet finally returned to Chile in the spring of 2000. Over the next six years until his death in December 2006, Pinochet was in and out of courts, and placed under house arrest in 2004. He was never tried in any court for any of his alleged crimes. |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 11, 2024 19:35:15 GMT
You can always find spurious links with Left wing terror groups to Left wing organisations, same as you can also find spurious links to Right wing terror groups to Right wing organisations. In reality however, support of terrorism or terror groups is not tollerated in either political party. Perhaps the most shamefull example in Conservative Party history would be Margaret Thatchers support for General Augusto Pinnochet, the Chilean dictator who butchered, murdered and tortured thousands of people. No the most shameful example is where the leader of your party supported the organisation murdering British Citizens I was never a big fan of Jeremy Corbyn, same as many members and supporters of the Labour Party I do not believe for one second that Corbyn has ever supported terrorist acts of the IRA, and there is actually no evidence that he has done. There is a very big grey and shady area whereby support for a united Ireland overlaps with Sinn Fein, who incidentally are now a respectable political party, and Sin Fein of course was the political wing of the IRA and heavily associated with the IRA. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 11, 2024 20:00:32 GMT
No the most shameful example is where the leader of your party supported the organisation murdering British Citizens I was never a big fan of Jeremy Corbyn, same as many members and supporters of the Labour Party I do not believe for one second that Corbyn has ever supported terrorist acts of the IRA, and there is actually no evidence that he has done. There is a very big grey and shady area whereby support for a united Ireland overlaps with Sinn Fein, who incidentally are now a respectable political party, and Sin Fein of course was the political wing of the IRA and heavily associated with the IRA.
There's no grey area, fiddles. Your party are serial terrorist supporters.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 11, 2024 21:17:42 GMT
No the most shameful example is where the leader of your party supported the organisation murdering British Citizens I was never a big fan of Jeremy Corbyn, same as many members and supporters of the Labour Party I do not believe for one second that Corbyn has ever supported terrorist acts of the IRA, and there is actually no evidence that he has done. There is a very big grey and shady area whereby support for a united Ireland overlaps with Sinn Fein, who incidentally are now a respectable political party, and Sin Fein of course was the political wing of the IRA and heavily associated with the IRA. What is this big and shady area where you support people getting blown to bits? Sounds like you are similar to the former chief of the UK’s biggest nursing union – the Royal College of Nursing (Pat Cullen) who always refused to condemn the IRA murder of nurses..  |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 12, 2024 7:32:17 GMT
No the most shameful example is where the leader of your party supported the organisation murdering British Citizens I was never a big fan of Jeremy Corbyn, same as many members and supporters of the Labour Party I do not believe for one second that Corbyn has ever supported terrorist acts of the IRA, and there is actually no evidence that he has done. There is a very big grey and shady area whereby support for a united Ireland overlaps with Sinn Fein, who incidentally are now a respectable political party, and Sin Fein of course was the political wing of the IRA and heavily associated with the IRA. Did he, or did he not, go to this meeting Did he, or did he not, invite the provisional IRA’s political puppets to tea at the house of commons ? |
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Post by sheepy on Jul 12, 2024 7:36:29 GMT
No the most shameful example is where the leader of your party supported the organisation murdering British Citizens I was never a big fan of Jeremy Corbyn, same as many members and supporters of the Labour Party I do not believe for one second that Corbyn has ever supported terrorist acts of the IRA, and there is actually no evidence that he has done. There is a very big grey and shady area whereby support for a united Ireland overlaps with Sinn Fein, who incidentally are now a respectable political party, and Sin Fein of course was the political wing of the IRA and heavily associated with the IRA. Probably not, but the yanks did and eventually they were the ones who also realised that it was completely getting out of even any control they had over it. When they blew up Thatcher's government who were also a very much a puppet government for the yanks. Who incidentally had much bigger plans for us in the Middle East.If history was ever going to repeat itself the Yanks have done exactly the same with Israel and now its government are beyond any control they have. |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 12, 2024 11:16:49 GMT
I was never a big fan of Jeremy Corbyn, same as many members and supporters of the Labour Party I do not believe for one second that Corbyn has ever supported terrorist acts of the IRA, and there is actually no evidence that he has done. There is a very big grey and shady area whereby support for a united Ireland overlaps with Sinn Fein, who incidentally are now a respectable political party, and Sin Fein of course was the political wing of the IRA and heavily associated with the IRA.
There's no grey area, fiddles. Your party are serial terrorist supporters.
When you see posts like this one, it convinces you that there is no doubt, the forum is full of people who have no idea what they are talking about, and shouldnt even be on a serious, grown up political forum. Of course you have some credible evidence or links to the ridiculous assertion that The Labour Party is a "party of serial terrorist supporters" ? No of course you haven't |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 12, 2024 11:22:01 GMT
You can always find spurious links with Left wing terror groups to Left wing organisations, same as you can also find spurious links to Right wing terror groups to Right wing organisations. In reality however, support of terrorism or terror groups is not tollerated in either political party. Perhaps the most shamefull example in Conservative Party history would be Margaret Thatchers support for General Augusto Pinnochet, the Chilean dictator who butchered, murdered and tortured thousands of people. No the most shameful example is where the leader of your party supported the organisation murdering British Citizens There are photographs of David Cameron and senior Conservatives meeting with, talking to, and shaking hands with senior Sinn Fein leaders, perhaps THEY are also supporting organisations which murdered British citizens. I personaly support the aims of Hamas ( to secure an independent Palestine ), but I do not support the means of securing those aims. There is absolutely no evidence what so ever of Jeremy Corbyn ever supporting terrorism - and that is a fact. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 12, 2024 12:16:00 GMT
When you see posts like this one, it convinces you that there is no doubt, the forum is full of people who have no idea what they are talking about... I wouldn't agree with that fiddles, in fact there's only a few of you left since the rest formed their echo chamber. You'd probably be happier over there where your brand of nonsense isn't challenged. Of course you have some credible evidence or links to the ridiculous assertion that The Labour Party is a "party of serial terrorist supporters" ? No of course you haven't Don't be daft, fiddles: "Our friends in Hamas", Corbyn's cosying up to Gerry Adams and the ongoing support for Islamist extremism are just some examples and matters of public record. You'll be telling us that they're not anti-Semitic next. Despite the myriad apologies that the party has been forced to make over it. You're in denial, fiddles. |
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Post by patman post on Jul 12, 2024 12:44:28 GMT
No the most shameful example is where the leader of your party supported the organisation murdering British Citizens I was never a big fan of Jeremy Corbyn, same as many members and supporters of the Labour Party I do not believe for one second that Corbyn has ever supported terrorist acts of the IRA, and there is actually no evidence that he has done. There is a very big grey and shady area whereby support for a united Ireland overlaps with Sinn Fein, who incidentally are now a respectable political party, and Sin Fein of course was the political wing of the IRA and heavily associated with the IRA. To me, Jeremy Corbyn comes across like a grandad who's never matured out of Left Wing student politics. This has led him to associate with the causes of "freedom fighting" terrorist organisations. As a result, he is portrayed by many as greatly more radical than he probably is... |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 12, 2024 15:13:52 GMT
No the most shameful example is where the leader of your party supported the organisation murdering British Citizens There are photographs of David Cameron and senior Conservatives meeting with, talking to, and shaking hands with senior Sinn Fein leaders, perhaps THEY are also supporting organisations which murdered British citizens. I personaly support the aims of Hamas ( to secure an independent Palestine ), but I do not support the means of securing those aims. There is absolutely no evidence what so ever of Jeremy Corbyn ever supporting terrorism - and that is a fact.How many times when the bombing campaign was on and the IRA were murdering British Civilians did Corbyn condemn the IRA? I'll give you a clue - its a number less than 1. |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 12, 2024 15:23:02 GMT
When you see posts like this one, it convinces you that there is no doubt, the forum is full of people who have no idea what they are talking about... I wouldn't agree with that fiddles, in fact there's only a few of you left since the rest formed their echo chamber. You'd probably be happier over there where your brand of nonsense isn't challenged. Of course you have some credible evidence or links to the ridiculous assertion that The Labour Party is a "party of serial terrorist supporters" ? No of course you haven't Don't be daft, fiddles: "Our friends in Hamas", Corbyn's cosying up to Gerry Adams and the ongoing support for Islamist extremism are just some examples and matters of public record. You'll be telling us that they're not anti-Semitic next. Despite the myriad apologies that the party has been forced to make over it. You're in denial, fiddles. I never did like Jeremy Corbyn's style or brand of Labour, but I still insist 100% that there is not a single shred of evidence that Corbyn either supports, or has ever supported acts of terrorism. The Israelis, and many in the West refered to Yaser Arafat as "a terrorist" and his organisation "The PLO", yet JEWISH Labour MPs regarded Yaser Arafat as simply a leader of a people striving for freedom. Where are the quotes or the paragraphs or verses from modern history which can be attributed to Corbyn supporting terrorist acts, have you found any yet. ? Corbyn is a fool, and he should not have associated with certain Palestinian or Irish political leaders, because it has left him wide open to certain accusations, but unless those accusations have foundations to them, then thats all they are ... accusations, theories. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 12, 2024 16:04:51 GMT
I wouldn't agree with that fiddles, in fact there's only a few of you left since the rest formed their echo chamber. You'd probably be happier over there where your brand of nonsense isn't challenged. Don't be daft, fiddles: "Our friends in Hamas", Corbyn's cosying up to Gerry Adams and the ongoing support for Islamist extremism are just some examples and matters of public record. You'll be telling us that they're not anti-Semitic next. Despite the myriad apologies that the party has been forced to make over it. You're in denial, fiddles. I never did like Jeremy Corbyn's style or brand of Labour, but I still insist 100% that there is not a single shred of evidence that Corbyn either supports, or has ever supported acts of terrorism. The Israelis, and many in the West refered to Yaser Arafat as "a terrorist" and his organisation "The PLO", yet JEWISH Labour MPs regarded Yaser Arafat as simply a leader of a people striving for freedom. Where are the quotes or the paragraphs or verses from modern history which can be attributed to Corbyn supporting terrorist acts, have you found any yet. ? Corbyn is a fool, and he should not have associated with certain Palestinian or Irish political leaders, because it has left him wide open to certain accusations, but unless those accusations have foundations to them, then thats all they are ... accusations, theories. Semantics, fiddles. You obviously can't see that there is more than one way to support terrorism. Simply by associating with them, Corbyn has (unwittingly or otherwise) sought to legitimise terrorists. It implies that they should be heard, that their cause and their methods are worthy. When you call them friends, that's exactly what you do. When you invite them in, that's exactly what you do. That's exactly what Corbyn has done, you've even admitted it above, and with the support of his party and the current PM. |
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