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Post by see2 on Jul 11, 2024 10:04:57 GMT
People who post unevidenced claims and opinion while ignoring the full picture, in order to use the term 'scum' are IMO scum. Don't let Angela Rayner hear you say that, she uses 'unevidenced claims' to call the Tories 'Scum', so she must be scum, according to your logic. She didn't post her claim, and AFAIA, hers was an off the cuff remark made amongst the like minded after a meeting. I.E. not for publication.
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Post by see2 on Jul 11, 2024 10:09:13 GMT
There is a pattern forming - amnesty for terrorists, amnesty for illegal migrants.. what next, amnesty for child grooming gangs? Still stinging from the election result ^^ at least you will have plenty of time to do your favourite thing, that is, throwing mud at Labour.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 11, 2024 10:30:32 GMT
Don't let Angela Rayner hear you say that, she uses 'unevidenced claims' to call the Tories 'Scum', so she must be scum, according to your logic. She didn't post her claim, and AFAIA, hers was an off the cuff remark made amongst the like minded after a meeting. I.E. not for publication. LOL...... the typical double standard hypocrisy of the lefties ^^^
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 11, 2024 10:40:11 GMT
There is a pattern forming - amnesty for terrorists, amnesty for illegal migrants.. what next, amnesty for child grooming gangs? Still stinging from the election result ^^ at least you will have plenty of time to do your favourite thing, that is, throwing mud at Labour. LOL - Labour don't need to me to throw mud at them they are perfectly capable of fucking everything up all by themselves.
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 11, 2024 10:57:54 GMT
Don't let Angela Rayner hear you say that, she uses 'unevidenced claims' to call the Tories 'Scum', so she must be scum, according to your logic. She didn't post her claim, and AFAIA, hers was an off the cuff remark made amongst the like minded after a meeting. I.E. not for publication. It was spoken , filmed and recorded at a party conference amongst ''like minded people'' who were attendees at a party conference Thus it was ( and is?) popular opinion She h was shadow leader/shadow PM and now is now the second most senior politician in the government , albeit that she is an unsackable union plant who wears clowns trouser suits designed by the Blair's best mates (clothes supplied FOC by them presumably as no-one sane could conceivably pay £500+ for that ill fitting green ''outfit''- other stuff seen on her from the same best mates also doesn't fit ) Thus her word counts in labour
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Post by Handyman on Jul 11, 2024 14:46:37 GMT
So im right when i say i pay towards your wages . Thanks for clearing that up . Noted What, people on benefits pay my wages?🤣 As you work and are paid for your work which are taxed, you also help pay for your wages
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Post by see2 on Jul 11, 2024 15:09:47 GMT
She didn't post her claim, and AFAIA, hers was an off the cuff remark made amongst the like minded after a meeting. I.E. not for publication. LOL...... the typical double standard hypocrisy of the lefties ^^^ No. No I'm not interested in your opinion, just tell me where I was wrong in what I posted.
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Post by Handyman on Jul 11, 2024 15:30:34 GMT
Very good so its not just for the IRA and against the Army veteran's but for all who been killed during the troubles by parlimiltarys has well . Labour were giving the IRA amnesty 20 years ago - now they are refusing to allow the same for British veterans. Only one word for them - scum. The IRA does have some support within the Labour Party and other Far Left supporters in the UK as they have something in common, Marxism and Socialism " The Official IRA (OIRA), the remainder of the IRA after the 1969 split from the Provisionals, was primarily Marxist in its political orientation. It is now inactive, while its political wing, Official Sinn Féin, became the Workers' Party (Ireland). As the old saying goes " One hand washes the other"
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Post by see2 on Jul 11, 2024 15:38:02 GMT
She didn't post her claim, and AFAIA, hers was an off the cuff remark made amongst the like minded after a meeting. I.E. not for publication. It was spoken , filmed and recorded at a party conference amongst ''like minded people'' who were attendees at a party conference Thus it was ( and is?) popular opinion She h was shadow leader/shadow PM and now is now the second most senior politician in the government , albeit that she is an unsackable union plant who wears clowns trouser suits designed by the Blair's best mates (clothes supplied FOC by them presumably as no-one sane could conceivably pay £500+ for that ill fitting green ''outfit''- other stuff seen on her from the same best mates also doesn't fit ) Thus her word counts in labour She has given her reasons for using the word, so was she correct in terms of the people and the Tory comments she addressed it to, like Boris Johnson? Your opinions and language are as ridiculous as ever, all they do is to expose just how strong is your biased need to insult and denigrate, all typical DNA of the 'lesser Rightist gobber'. Does nothing for your credibility on a debating forum.
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Post by see2 on Jul 11, 2024 15:41:17 GMT
Still stinging from the election result ^^ at least you will have plenty of time to do your favourite thing, that is, throwing mud at Labour. LOL - Labour don't need to me to throw mud at them they are perfectly capable of fucking everything up all by themselves. In you overly biased opinion as you have proved on this forum. Just think how much better you would feel if you manage a little objectivity in your posts.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 11, 2024 15:59:04 GMT
Labour were giving the IRA amnesty 20 years ago - now they are refusing to allow the same for British veterans. Only one word for them - scum. The IRA does have some support within the Labour Party and other Far Left supporters in the UK as they have something in common, Marxism and Socialism " The Official IRA (OIRA), the remainder of the IRA after the 1969 split from the Provisionals, was primarily Marxist in its political orientation. It is now inactive, while its political wing, Official Sinn Féin, became the Workers' Party (Ireland). As the old saying goes " One hand washes the other" 'some'? - it was only 4 years ago that the Labour Party had as its Leader a man who had spent over 40 years supporting the IRA..
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 11, 2024 16:04:40 GMT
You can always find spurious links with Left wing terror groups to Left wing organisations, same as you can also find spurious links to Right wing terror groups to Right wing organisations.
In reality however, support of terrorism or terror groups is not tollerated in either political party.
Perhaps the most shamefull example in Conservative Party history would be Margaret Thatchers support for General Augusto Pinnochet, the Chilean dictator who butchered, murdered and tortured thousands of people.
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Post by Handyman on Jul 11, 2024 16:53:19 GMT
The IRA does have some support within the Labour Party and other Far Left supporters in the UK as they have something in common, Marxism and Socialism " The Official IRA (OIRA), the remainder of the IRA after the 1969 split from the Provisionals, was primarily Marxist in its political orientation. It is now inactive, while its political wing, Official Sinn Féin, became the Workers' Party (Ireland). As the old saying goes " One hand washes the other" 'some'? - it was only 4 years ago that the Labour Party had as its Leader a man who had spent over 40 years supporting the IRA.. I was being cautious as they say. As for the IRA and Loyalist yes they did have legitimate business Taxi's but when the Troubles kicked off that soon changed double book keeping some of the money went to buy weapons etc. They both moved into semi legitimate enterprises as a front and straightforward Criminality, Protection Rackets, Brothels , Pubs and Drinking Clubs, Counterfeit Goods. Stealing Lorry Loads of Fags , Bank Robberies, Cash in Transit, the IRA liked to kidnap Bank Managers hold them to Ransom, quite often the Banks kept it quite and paid the ransom etc etc, anything to buy weapons and explosives The IRA shot dead a Special Branch Officer in the ROI who was escorting Cash in Transit , as late as 2015 the Garda in the ROI conducted an investigation that showed that IRA Members were heavily involved in Organised Crime in the ROI.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 11, 2024 16:56:18 GMT
You can always find spurious links with Left wing terror groups to Left wing organisations, same as you can also find spurious links to Right wing terror groups to Right wing organisations. In reality however, support of terrorism or terror groups is not tollerated in either political party. Perhaps the most shamefull example in Conservative Party history would be Margaret Thatchers support for General Augusto Pinnochet, the Chilean dictator who butchered, murdered and tortured thousands of people. Look - a squirrel! 🤣
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 11, 2024 17:03:16 GMT
You can always find spurious links with Left wing terror groups to Left wing organisations, same as you can also find spurious links to Right wing terror groups to Right wing organisations. In reality however, support of terrorism or terror groups is not tollerated in either political party. Perhaps the most shamefull example in Conservative Party history would be Margaret Thatchers support for General Augusto Pinnochet, the Chilean dictator who butchered, murdered and tortured thousands of people. No the most shameful example is where the leader of your party supported the organisation murdering British Citizens
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