ginnyg2
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Post by ginnyg2 on Jul 9, 2024 13:41:43 GMT
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Post by sheepy on Jul 9, 2024 13:46:10 GMT
It has to rank right up there with some of the worst political red herrings ever, the whole thing couldn't take more than one heavy day arrivals, I bet there were plenty of fingers in that pie.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 9, 2024 13:51:32 GMT
Like Rwanda was ever going to give any of the £290million back, instead of it just being dead money Starmer could have done some deal, even if it was to send prisoners there, or even set up a holiday camp for young ofenders, to just let them keep £290million with nothing to show is just as bad as Sunak who started it.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 9, 2024 14:07:31 GMT
£290 million is a decent wedge of cash for sure. However, after five years of Labour government I think we all know the waste will run into £billions rather than £millions, and that's not including the benefits bill for hundreds of thousands of Labour voting illegals.
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Post by wapentake on Jul 9, 2024 14:34:48 GMT
Well old Rachel said she would get back every penny,maybe she should send in in the bailiffs  The money we they waste. |
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 14:42:13 GMT
Well old Rachel said she would get back every penny,maybe she should send in in the bailiffs The money we they waste. its all the hours civil servants , diplomats , lawyers and politicians have wasted , thrown in the bin on a fit of pique and ideology. cost of living crises and labour and tory waste money like fucking water running through a sieve. |
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Post by wapentake on Jul 9, 2024 14:49:46 GMT
Well old Rachel said she would get back every penny,maybe she should send in in the bailiffs The money we they waste. its all the hours civil servants , diplomats , lawyers and politicians have wasted , thrown in the bin on a fit of pique and ideology. cost of living crises and labour and tory waste money like fucking water running through a sieve. It’s the ability they have to spend and throw away then tell us we have to tighten our belts. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 9, 2024 14:49:55 GMT
Use them as hotels for the Brits. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 9, 2024 14:49:58 GMT
The reason we had a snap GE because divi Sunak guaranteed the Rwanda flights would be taking off in July, he was obviously told by the legal beagles 'No Chance', when it got to the deadline of November when he had no choice but to call a GE he was already a busted flush, because people would say it's now November and still no Rwanda flights.... now we are saddled with Starmer/Labour.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 9, 2024 15:06:48 GMT
The reason we had a snap GE because divi Sunak guaranteed the Rwanda flights would be taking off in July, he was obviously told by the legal beagles 'No Chance', when it got to the deadline of November when he had no choice but to call a GE he was already a busted flush, because people would say it's now November and still no Rwanda flights.... now we are saddled with Starmer/Labour. Perhaps he also knew that prisons were going to run out of room in the next few weeks too? I think there's more than one factor in there, although I do agree with your point. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 9, 2024 15:11:23 GMT
The reason we had a snap GE because divi Sunak guaranteed the Rwanda flights would be taking off in July, he was obviously told by the legal beagles 'No Chance', when it got to the deadline of November when he had no choice but to call a GE he was already a busted flush, because people would say it's now November and still no Rwanda flights.... now we are saddled with Starmer/Labour. Perhaps he also knew that prisons were going to run out of room in the next few weeks too? I think there's more than one factor in there, although I do agree with your point. One of the reasons the prisons are bursting at the seams, we have foreign criminals who should be deported back to their own country to serve out their sentences, the problem is the places they come from don't want them back, they are pleased the UK are accommodating their undesirables, and it's not costing them a penny. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 9, 2024 16:57:59 GMT
Perhaps he also knew that prisons were going to run out of room in the next few weeks too? I think there's more than one factor in there, although I do agree with your point. One of the reasons the prisons are bursting at the seams, we have foreign criminals who should be deported back to their own country to serve out their sentences, the problem is the places they come from don't want them back, they are pleased the UK are accommodating their undesirables, and it's not costing them a penny. Whilst I don't disagree with the principle, any agreements would have to be bilateral, ie we take British prisoners in return, so I'm not sure how much that would reduce the prison population by. |
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ginnyg2
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Post by ginnyg2 on Jul 10, 2024 10:25:59 GMT
One of the reasons the prisons are bursting at the seams, we have foreign criminals who should be deported back to their own country to serve out their sentences, the problem is the places they come from don't want them back, they are pleased the UK are accommodating their undesirables, and it's not costing them a penny. Whilst I don't disagree with the principle, any agreements would have to be bilateral, ie we take British prisoners in return, so I'm not sure how much that would reduce the prison population by. Approx. 10,00 foreign nationals in UK prisons. Approx. 2500 UK nationals are in prisons abroad. We would benefit from an exchange. |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 10, 2024 11:31:43 GMT
Its not what has been lost BY THE TORIES
Its a matter of what has been saved BY THE NEW GOVERNMENT for ditching a ridiculous and extremely costly mad plan.
The stupid Rwanda Plan would have ended up whereby between 97% and 98% of all illegal immigrants would have stayed right here in the UK, how can anyone in their righ minds even suggest that it would be a deterant ?
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 10, 2024 13:55:35 GMT
Its not what has been lost BY THE TORIES Its a matter of what has been saved BY THE NEW GOVERNMENT for ditching a ridiculous and extremely costly mad plan. The stupid Rwanda Plan would have ended up whereby between 97% and 98% of all illegal immigrants would have stayed right here in the UK, how can anyone in their righ minds even suggest that it would be a deterant ? You can guess all you like but the fact is thanks to Starmer we will never know whether the Rwanda plan would have worked, you can pontificate all you like, but the fact is, we will never know. Starmer said the plan was not a deterrent, but immigrants themselves said it was a deterrent, and the Irish government bitterly complained about immigrants fleeing over the Irish border from Northern Ireland because they were worried about being sent to Rwanda, so to say it was not a deterrent is a lie. Starmer has killed the Rwanda plan which is his privilage, he is the prime minister, but he has replaced it with absolutely nothing. He has no ideas, no plan, other than to concrete over thousands of acres of greenbelt land to build 1.5 million homes for illegals. I absolutely guarantee that within six months many Labour voters will be regretting voting for this government which is likely to become the most unpopular government in modern times. |
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