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Post by Handyman on Jul 6, 2024 14:11:22 GMT
Warmonger Blair slogan 24 hours to save the NHS LOB nothing changed he could not even keep his promise to end mixed wards, money back then solved nothing back then and still the case, the population is too large for the NHS to cope with no amount of money will resolve that
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 6, 2024 14:32:55 GMT
Repairing the damage of the last 14 years will require a combination of working differently, talking TO NHS staff instead of talking DOWN to them, bringing the workforce onside and working together, plus better resources.
This ridiculos idea that "you cant keep throwing money at it" is a bit outdated, like a stuck record, all things require more resources over time, its called inflation. You cannot keep a 21st century NHS operating and running properly on 1990s budgets.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 6, 2024 15:36:11 GMT
Repairing the damage of the last 14 years will require a combination of working differently, talking TO NHS staff instead of talking DOWN to them, bringing the workforce onside and working together, plus better resources. This ridiculos idea that "you cant keep throwing money at it" is a bit outdated, like a stuck record, all things require more resources over time, its called inflation. You cannot keep a 21st century NHS operating and running properly on 1990s budgets. The NHS has had its funding increased faster than inflation. |
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Post by sheepy on Jul 6, 2024 15:41:16 GMT
Repairing the damage of the last 14 years will require a combination of working differently, talking TO NHS staff instead of talking DOWN to them, bringing the workforce onside and working together, plus better resources. This ridiculos idea that "you cant keep throwing money at it" is a bit outdated, like a stuck record, all things require more resources over time, its called inflation. You cannot keep a 21st century NHS operating and running properly on 1990s budgets. The NHS has had its funding increased faster than inflation. Mainly swallowed up by debt created by the last Labour government. Which they are in complete denial about. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2024 16:56:30 GMT
Repairing the damage of the last 14 years will require a combination of working differently, talking TO NHS staff instead of talking DOWN to them, bringing the workforce onside and working together, plus better resources. This ridiculos idea that "you cant keep throwing money at it" is a bit outdated, like a stuck record, all things require more resources over time, its called inflation. You cannot keep a 21st century NHS operating and running properly on 1990s budgets. The NHS has had its funding increased faster than inflation. The NHS <insert scaremongering BS>, cos of da Tories and that Labour will <insert a utopian scenerio for tomorrow that never comes>. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 6, 2024 17:01:53 GMT
Repairing the damage of the last 14 years will require a combination of working differently, talking TO NHS staff instead of talking DOWN to them, bringing the workforce onside and working together, plus better resources. This ridiculos idea that "you cant keep throwing money at it" is a bit outdated, like a stuck record, all things require more resources over time, its called inflation. You cannot keep a 21st century NHS operating and running properly on 1990s budgets. You can throw too much money at a problem and no one said that thevNHS budget should be pinned to 1990s spending . |
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 6, 2024 17:35:41 GMT
Repairing the damage of the last 14 years will require a combination of working differently, talking TO NHS staff instead of talking DOWN to them, bringing the workforce onside and working together, plus better resources. This ridiculos idea that "you cant keep throwing money at it" is a bit outdated, like a stuck record, all things require more resources over time, its called inflation. You cannot keep a 21st century NHS operating and running properly on 1990s budgets. I agree that it needs to work differently The NHS is already run for the benefit of the staff , patients are an inconvenience to staff That mindset needs to be changed and the ''customer'' put front and centre |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 6, 2024 19:54:12 GMT
Repairing the damage of the last 14 years will require a combination of working differently, talking TO NHS staff instead of talking DOWN to them, bringing the workforce onside and working together, plus better resources. This ridiculos idea that "you cant keep throwing money at it" is a bit outdated, like a stuck record, all things require more resources over time, its called inflation. You cannot keep a 21st century NHS operating and running properly on 1990s budgets. I agree that it needs to work differently The NHS is already run for the benefit of the staff , patients are an inconvenience to staff That mindset needs to be changed and the ''customer'' put front and centre I can only give my own opinion and family experience. My wife has had cancer for near on fifteen years with spells of return. Her treatment in Ayrshire and Arran has been excellent, the staff have been wonderful, the response to the occasional emergency has been brilliant. The treatment has been timely and considered and the follow up very good. My stepson who lives in Hampshire and had extensive experience in Hampshire NHS trust due to motorcycle injuries believes that if she still lived in Hampshire she may have died a few years back and this time would certainly not have received the same treatment So Scotland NHS seems pretty good even for English patients and in the main the patients are treated with kindness, respect and care. It seems overcrowded areas struggle and there is little doubt Hampshire is overcrowded certainly Southern Hants. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 6, 2024 22:09:13 GMT
The problem with the NHS is productivity - we have significantly increased funding for the NHS yet productivity has fallen - this is the same problem that Blair found when he started his expansion of the NHS.
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Post by patman post on Jul 7, 2024 12:21:23 GMT
Did they say how many seats would have remained tory if reform didn't get involved? I saw a broadcaster say earlier, it was around 2/3rds of the seats they lost? I guess Farage did destroy the Tory party, even if he didn't get the seats he wanted. The majority voted ABC — anyone but Conservatives. After achieving that, popular campaigning for individual policies can start. And following the Tories, the U.K. now has a government from a party that has indicated that it is geared to listening… |
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Post by patman post on Jul 7, 2024 12:33:23 GMT
Labour Wales already run the NHS, and it has a even worse record than NHS England, so if Labour can't run NHS Wales what makes you think they can run NHS England any better? NHS is a devolved issue… |
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Post by patman post on Jul 7, 2024 12:38:08 GMT
Repairing the damage of the last 14 years will require a combination of working differently, talking TO NHS staff instead of talking DOWN to them, bringing the workforce onside and working together, plus better resources. This ridiculos idea that "you cant keep throwing money at it" is a bit outdated, like a stuck record, all things require more resources over time, its called inflation. You cannot keep a 21st century NHS operating and running properly on 1990s budgets. The NHS has had its funding increased faster than inflation. But from comments by medical staff in the NHS, it appears too much money gets siphoned off into bureaucratic areas rather than getting to the medical front line… |
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 7, 2024 12:45:30 GMT
The NHS has had its funding increased faster than inflation. But from comments by medical staff in the NHS, it appears too much money gets siphoned off into bureaucratic areas rather than getting to the medical front line… Funding has increased significantly , how it's allocated is a matter for the NHS and the highly paid (invisible much of the time) NHS boss Amanda Pritchard , not a government minister |
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Post by patman post on Jul 7, 2024 13:49:13 GMT
But from comments by medical staff in the NHS, it appears too much money gets siphoned off into bureaucratic areas rather than getting to the medical front line… Funding has increased significantly , how it's allocated is a matter for the NHS and the highly paid (invisible much of the time) NHS boss Amanda Pritchard , not a government minister NHS England reports into the Dept of Health and Social Care so, assuming the new government continues this arrangement, the government (probably through DHSC) could set up a review of NHS England.
Any review should also look at closer linking of Welfare and Public Health into any NHS review, because keeping people healthy and out of hospital, and ensuring care is available when patients leave hospital, would relieve pressure on hospitals...
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 7, 2024 14:05:37 GMT
I agree that it needs to work differently The NHS is already run for the benefit of the staff , patients are an inconvenience to staff That mindset needs to be changed and the ''customer'' put front and centre I can only give my own opinion and family experience. My wife has had cancer for near on fifteen years with spells of return. Her treatment in Ayrshire and Arran has been excellent, the staff have been wonderful, the response to the occasional emergency has been brilliant. The treatment has been timely and considered and the follow up very good. My stepson who lives in Hampshire and had extensive experience in Hampshire NHS trust due to motorcycle injuries believes that if she still lived in Hampshire she may have died a few years back and this time would certainly not have received the same treatment So Scotland NHS seems pretty good even for English patients and in the main the patients are treated with kindness, respect and care. It seems overcrowded areas struggle and there is little doubt Hampshire is overcrowded certainly Southern Hants. MY experience is that the staff are indeed the wonder of legend the various sagas sung by the bards make them out to be The problem is money grubbing admin too interested in ripping off those needing to park their cars to notice consultant surgeons have fucked off leaving waiting lists to mushroom unpruned, and corrupt scum in government publicly admit their incompetence and inability to hold the post of health minister but are not sacked, But that is Wales where NHS incompetence and malpractice continues apace as it has since 1999 under an uninterrupted LABOUR administration |
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