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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 6, 2024 9:50:07 GMT
Well I'm sure he will But five against 400+ means just as with the European parliament, he will find his enemies stacked against him As soon as Griffin and Brons entered Brussels a raft of measures were enacted to deny MEP's access to Westminster based facilities and quota requirements were initiated or increased to deny funding. Expect lots of measures currently requiring three or more to suddenly double the quora .... That’s where Farage thrives . He’s in his element when things are stacked against him . The next 5 years will be very interesting. Indeed they will. I agree Farage absolutely is in his element here. Decades ago when i was for the briefest of moments a member of the gang of four party, i got my hands on a document briefing activists and candidates, which i’m sure the lib dems nicked. In short it said their task in the short term was to be the awkward squad, the most important aspect was to highlight failings. It did not matter that ‘we’ had no plans to do better, nor even if we could not do better, any smart arse posing such a question was to be rebuffed with the line that we were a minnow in the loyal opposition, and as such it was our duty to call into question the failings of government, in particular where those failings came after significant expenditure. Yes, i think the proceedings in the chamber may well have a livelier spring to them. And thanks to Sunak, he’ll be spoiled for choice for a place to sit |
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Post by piglet on Jul 6, 2024 9:52:49 GMT
Your laughing now happy jack, you wont be next time around, Labour got elected because the Tories fouled up over many years, not because Labour are proficient in anything. They are lame, predictable, stupid, not fit to govern, youi are a sect.
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Post by happyjack on Jul 6, 2024 10:13:29 GMT
No, Labour got elected because so many of 2019’s Tory voters voted Reform, knowing full well what the consequences would be.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 6, 2024 10:20:20 GMT
No, Labour got elected because so many of 2019’s Tory voters voted Reform, knowing full well what the consequences would be. Yep.
And who can blame them.
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Post by happyjack on Jul 6, 2024 10:23:58 GMT
I am not sure and don’t care who can blame them but I know who should thank them.
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 6, 2024 10:36:07 GMT
Without Reform voters, Labour would be in government now
But with Reform voters, Labour just have a bigger majority
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 6, 2024 10:59:05 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 6, 2024 11:08:03 GMT
Well when you put it like that...^^ |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 6, 2024 11:22:20 GMT
My thoughts on the past couple of days
Whatever I think of either of the two main political parties, both Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer are decent people, who both showed a great sense of humility in both defeat and victory.
Initially very disappointed that the Exit Poll was showing 13 seats for Reform UK, and though 5 is much better, its still 5 too many.
Very pleased for Ed Davey - commiserations to the SNP, but as a Unionist, I wont shed too many tears, good to see the Greens pick up a few more seats and Labour need to think hard about the terrible situation in Gaza.
Overall ... Looking forward to seeing our NHS been repaired and made fit for purpose again, and will watch with interest what now happens to the Conservative Party.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 6, 2024 12:53:57 GMT
Without Reform voters, Labour would be in government now But with Reform voters, Labour just have a bigger majority LOL!  |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 6, 2024 13:04:10 GMT
My thoughts on the past couple of days Whatever I think of either of the two main political parties, both Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer are decent people, who both showed a great sense of humility in both defeat and victory. Initially very disappointed that the Exit Poll was showing 13 seats for Reform UK, and though 5 is much better, its still 5 too many. Very pleased for Ed Davey - commiserations to the SNP, but as a Unionist, I wont shed too many tears, good to see the Greens pick up a few more seats and Labour need to think hard about the terrible situation in Gaza. Overall ... Looking forward to seeing our NHS been repaired and made fit for purpose again, and will watch with interest what now happens to the Conservative Party. FFS you sound like a Oscar Award speech.
Ed Davey is as thick as fuck and after the post office scandal he should have done the right thing and resigned, the daft twat doing bungee jumps to get noticed.
The SNP squander English taxes on their Independence fantasy, thank fuck they've taken a big knock, as for the Greens a bunch of odd ball retired or bored misfits who are loveless lonely tree huggers.
As for the NHS all I can say ... you deluded fool.
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Post by Handyman on Jul 6, 2024 13:12:17 GMT
The usual fix for the NHS lets throw more billions of pounds at it , that will solve all its problems all that does is paper over the huge cracks for a year or two
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Post by patman post on Jul 6, 2024 13:41:44 GMT
The usual fix for the NHS lets throw more billions of pounds at it , that will solve all its problems all that does is paper over the huge cracks for a year or two Hopefully, that usual fix will be reviewed — as will the performances of the chief exec, her deputy, the finance director, and the workforce director and their senior staffs.
To an outsider, NHS England appears to have been stumbling along, with various band-aids being applied to keep it going for just a little longer. Total Health & Welfare activity requires complete appraisal to cater for an ageing population. If Starmer's "country not party" rule holds, no proposed solution should be discarded for purely political reasons...
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 6, 2024 13:52:13 GMT
Hopefully, that usual fix will be reviewed — as will the performances of the chief exec, her deputy, the finance director, and the workforce director and their senior staffs.
To an outsider, NHS England appears to have been stumbling along, with various band-aids being applied to keep it going for just a little longer. Total Health & Welfare activity requires complete appraisal to cater for an ageing population. If Starmer's "country not party" rule holds, no proposed solution should be discarded for purely political reasons...
Labour Wales already run the NHS, and it has a even worse record than NHS England, so if Labour can't run NHS Wales what makes you think they can run NHS England any better? |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 6, 2024 14:03:20 GMT
My thoughts on the past couple of days Whatever I think of either of the two main political parties, both Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer are decent people, who both showed a great sense of humility in both defeat and victory. Initially very disappointed that the Exit Poll was showing 13 seats for Reform UK, and though 5 is much better, its still 5 too many. Very pleased for Ed Davey - commiserations to the SNP, but as a Unionist, I wont shed too many tears, good to see the Greens pick up a few more seats and Labour need to think hard about the terrible situation in Gaza. Overall ... Looking forward to seeing our NHS been repaired and made fit for purpose again, and will watch with interest what now happens to the Conservative Party. You need to live in Scotland to fully 'appreciate' the SNP. That may give you a different take. There is a terrible situation in Gaza but then that follows from a terrible situation in Israel, that follows on from a terrible situation in Gaza and Israel, that follows on from terrible situations in the West Bank and Gaza and that follows on from terrible situations in Israel, Gaza and... To repair the NHS then best to stop all immigration especially from countries where the health regimes have been at best basic and bringing in people whose risk of many illnesses are greater than the British population. In order to save something you really have to be prepared to be severe with the actual problems that are bringing it into disrepair. Really who cares what happens to the Tories unless they become Tories again which they have not been for a dozen years or so. |
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