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Post by Handyman on Nov 30, 2022 12:52:52 GMT
So he’s a Grammar school boy who benefited from the Grammar school system. No doubt he will look to increase the number of Grammar schools if he becomes PM. The future of any country is in its children, any sensible Government should provide them with the best education it can, many parents know this and even sell up and move to a catchment area to get their children into the best school they can. The best way to do that is bring all the so-called bog-standard schools up to the standards set in the remaining Grammar Schools that are still in place Sadly, some of our schools are failing and instead of well-educated pupils leaving to go onto university to obtain better qualifications and skills they need to obtain well paid work, far too many are leaving with little or no skills at all, any employer will tell you many are unemployable, the Education System and in many cases their parents have let them down We need better Teachers
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Post by dodgydave on Nov 30, 2022 13:01:20 GMT
It is just more populism from Starmer. What about faith schools? They are charities too. The Catholics schools in my area are rated outstanding, let's tax the shit out of them and bring them down a few levels... Is he going to stop Working Men's clubs from being charities too? Surely, they have an "unfair advantage" too and are a drain on the taxpayer hahaha. This will achieve nothing, except to hit the "working class done good" parents, who will now longer be able to send their kids to private school, and of course the bright working-class pupils who would have received a scholarship. What you fail to see with your anti-rich ideology is that these private schools are not rammed full of the children of the super-rich. I grew up with many people that have done well for themselves and chosen to send their children to private schools because it is literally the best gift you can give them. They make massive sacrifices to send their children there. Making them 20% more expensive is going to make this unaffordable for many.
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Post by Handyman on Nov 30, 2022 13:07:02 GMT
It is just more populism from Starmer. What about faith schools? They are charities too. The Catholics schools in my area are rated outstanding, let's tax the shit out of them and bring them down a few levels... Is he going to stop Working Men's clubs from being charities too? Surely, they have an "unfair advantage" too and are a drain on the taxpayer hahaha. This will achieve nothing, except to hit the "working class done good" parents, who will now longer be able to send their kids to private school, and of course the bright working-class pupils who would have received a scholarship. What you fail to see with your anti-rich ideology is that these private schools are not rammed full of the children of the super-rich. I grew up with many people that have done well for themselves and chosen to send their children to private schools because it is literally the best gift you can give them. They make massive sacrifices to send their children there. Making them 20% more expensive is going to make this unaffordable for many. Well said. we moved out of Islington years ago to put our children into a good school, as the wife is Catholic her local Priest helped to get our children into Roman Catholic Schools, far better results than the ones on offer in Islington and Camden, they did well and now have good well-paid jobs their kids are doing well
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Post by zanygame on Nov 30, 2022 17:05:36 GMT
It is just more populism from Starmer. What about faith schools? They are charities too. The Catholics schools in my area are rated outstanding, let's tax the shit out of them and bring them down a few levels... Is he going to stop Working Men's clubs from being charities too? Surely, they have an "unfair advantage" too and are a drain on the taxpayer hahaha. This will achieve nothing, except to hit the "working class done good" parents, who will now longer be able to send their kids to private school, and of course the bright working-class pupils who would have received a scholarship. What you fail to see with your anti-rich ideology is that these private schools are not rammed full of the children of the super-rich. I grew up with many people that have done well for themselves and chosen to send their children to private schools because it is literally the best gift you can give them. They make massive sacrifices to send their children there. Making them 20% more expensive is going to make this unaffordable for many. Well said. we moved out of Islington years ago to put our children into a good school, as the wife is Catholic her local Priest helped to get our children into Roman Catholic Schools, far better results than the ones on offer in Islington and Camden, they did well and now have good well-paid jobs their kids are doing well That's the frankest self interest I think I've ever seen on a forum.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 30, 2022 17:18:50 GMT
It is just more populism from Starmer. What about faith schools? They are charities too. The Catholics schools in my area are rated outstanding, let's tax the shit out of them and bring them down a few levels... Is he going to stop Working Men's clubs from being charities too? Surely, they have an "unfair advantage" too and are a drain on the taxpayer hahaha. This will achieve nothing, except to hit the "working class done good" parents, who will now longer be able to send their kids to private school, and of course the bright working-class pupils who would have received a scholarship. What you fail to see with your anti-rich ideology is that these private schools are not rammed full of the children of the super-rich. I grew up with many people that have done well for themselves and chosen to send their children to private schools because it is literally the best gift you can give them. They make massive sacrifices to send their children there. Making them 20% more expensive is going to make this unaffordable for many. Well said. we moved out of Islington years ago to put our children into a good school, as the wife is Catholic her local Priest helped to get our children into Roman Catholic Schools, far better results than the ones on offer in Islington and Camden, they did well and now have good well-paid jobs their kids are doing well Has a church goer I think Its wrong that religous establishment should be tax exmempts to such a point i wont pay my tithes Give to ceasra whats ceasras
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Post by Toreador on Nov 30, 2022 17:34:51 GMT
Starmer's grammar school transferred from the public sector whilst he was attending; I've already told you that ffs.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 30, 2022 17:48:56 GMT
Starmer's grammar school transferred from the public sector whilst he was attending; I've already told you that ffs. Yea to a Independent school not private .
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 30, 2022 17:54:02 GMT
Starmer's grammar school transferred from the public sector whilst he was attending; I've already told you that ffs. Yea to a Independent school not private . To a paid independent..
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Post by Toreador on Nov 30, 2022 17:55:49 GMT
Starmer's grammar school transferred from the public sector whilst he was attending; I've already told you that ffs. Yea to a Independent school not private . Sounds like you are trolling.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 30, 2022 18:24:44 GMT
Yea to a Independent school not private . To a paid independent.. Yea to a fee paying Independent not a fee paying private school .you do understand the difference to a independent school and a private school .
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Post by Handyman on Nov 30, 2022 18:27:47 GMT
Well said. we moved out of Islington years ago to put our children into a good school, as the wife is Catholic her local Priest helped to get our children into Roman Catholic Schools, far better results than the ones on offer in Islington and Camden, they did well and now have good well-paid jobs their kids are doing well That's the frankest self interest I think I've ever seen on a forum. Acting in the best interest of our children and their future which paid off. as many many other parents have done and are still doing if they can, a good selling point when selling a house, is good schools in the local area
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 18:39:19 GMT
So where will the kids go when their parents can no longer afford to send them to private schools? I suggest that most of them would and could afford it. The few who cant can send their kids to the same schools everyone else's kids go to. Why should taxpayers be subsidising elitist educations for the offspring of the already fairly well off? Why should elitist education be tax exempt? Private healthcare isn't. Tax it in the usual way and use the money to improve state education for all, including the handful who might have dropped out of an elitist education.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 30, 2022 18:40:48 GMT
That's the frankest self interest I think I've ever seen on a forum. Acting in the best interest of our children and their future which paid off. as many many other parents have done and are still doing if they can, a good selling point when selling a house, is good schools in the local area Yea they tend to be more expensive arears ok if you can aford it .While secondanry schools encatchment area ger poorer.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 18:42:35 GMT
Labour the enemy of aspiration - never changes.. You can aspire to anything, including an elitist education for your kids if you are wealthy enough. But this should not be tax exempt when the money could be better spent improving education for all.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 30, 2022 18:46:48 GMT
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