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Post by jaydee on Oct 24, 2022 18:11:25 GMT
The Scottish are British. Even in the unlikely event of independence they will still live in Britain. Unless Sturgeon intends to move Scotland to Belgium that is. That's correct. But Britain is not a nation. It is a constitutional state consisting of 4 countries. Of which the King is the King of England. And I presume since the Queens death. The head of state in Scotland. And a nation who voted to remain in the EU. And now looking to divorce themselves from Bankrupt England. Who the Scots can no longer afford. As they cannot live within their means. So perhaps you can tell me why would the First minister move to Belgium. I see you are once again on the circular Jock hating bullshit. and time to go back to the copy and paste. So in anticipation to your next Bravo Sierra. Here is the answer. Before you ask the question. The First minister has stated Scotland will use the pound. A Scottish pound.. A central bank is up and running. For several years. How do you work out she did not. Because you did not know. What two porkies did she tell. That is what you said. As you spectacularly fail to answer why you hate the First Minister and the Scots. . Or what benefit energy rich Scotland would gain remaining part of bankrupt England. Or how a border you voted for, is the fault of others. There will be no border on those coming from England into Scotland. That you will have created. Are silly Englishmen going to put up machine gun posts, on the other way about. .
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Post by jaydee on Oct 24, 2022 18:31:21 GMT
Ah Nigel. The forums one line wonder troll. Still with nothing to add and still hell bent on destroying threads. As not once has the troll corrected one thing I have said. I did ask you when you wake up in the morning does your eyes actually open. Now I see why you could not answer if you paint L and R on your shoes when you dress. See above, where I have quite clearly corrected you. Perhaps you might need a grown-up to read it to you. Otherwise, please stop trolling threads with your fascistic drivel. Ah Nigel I am looking above and I am still looking where you have quite clearly corrected me. All I see is utter bullshit and idiotic one line wonders with smileys. Like a right wing fascist, such as Farage is left wing. Then rant everyone else is a fascist. So how about you pointing to this correction. In terms of trolls. You matey are the one line wonder record holder in fascist apologist trolling.
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Post by thomas on Oct 24, 2022 18:56:42 GMT
The Scottish are British. Even in the unlikely event of independence they will still live in Britain. Unless Sturgeon intends to move Scotland to Belgium that is. British isnt a nationality. There is no country on earth called britian. Its the name of an island , and equvalent of calling a norwegian scandianvian , a spaniard iberian , or even an englishman a european.
in political terms , which is what i was referring to , ite betwen those who see themselves as british unionists , and those who see themselves as scottish.
I no longer live in the eu , well for the moment anyway , but im still european too....
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Post by thomas on Oct 24, 2022 19:21:20 GMT
The Scottish are British. The day you have your first unelected asian prime minister , who i believe identifies as british asian , in scotland meanwhile , the asian community is pretty pro independence , and see themselves as scottish asian , not british ....
A poll by Scotland’s leading Asian radio station has found nearly two-thirds of listeners are in favour of independence.
The Awaz FM poll showed 64% of listeners would vote Yes, while 32% were against the idea of breaking up the United Kingdom.
'I may be Muslim but I identify myself as Scottish': the indyref battle for the Scottish Asian vote
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Post by Vinny on Oct 24, 2022 21:18:29 GMT
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Post by thomas on Oct 25, 2022 7:32:19 GMT
I think you need to read and try and understand your own link. Your own link says britishness , or british nationality/citizenship , isnt confined to the mythical country called Britain , but was orignally given to anyone who lived anywhere in the empire.
For example an indian or pakistani , or someone from hong kong were at one time british citizens/nationals.
Today , people in Gibraltar or the falkland islands for example are british citizens/nationals. This come from passport entitlement , not national identity.
A piece of paper doesnt confer national identity. National identity is a mindest forged through your upbringing family and centuries of history. I have two pieces of paper that tell me im a scottish national.......a birth certificate and marriage certificate.
You dont even have a british birth certificate , while most countries on earth produce birth certificates , the imaginary country britain doesnt.
...but you can call yourself whatever you like. What you cant do , and never will do , is tell me or anyone else what our national identity is , and i reject britishness...
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 25, 2022 9:02:42 GMT
Me too, I'm English.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 25, 2022 17:30:55 GMT
That is correct. Of the little Englander UKIP fascist Westminster Government template. Who do not know their political leaning. Who with their bile and hatred have created a new Sovereign State. The Disunited Kingdom. And why energy rich Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England, and its right wing racist fascist baggage. Like Johnston/Farage. Who nobody In Scotland voted for.
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Post by borchester on Oct 25, 2022 19:19:16 GMT
If being English is good enough for God, then I can't see what the rest of us have to complain about.
Of course, he drew the line at Jaydee, but who wouldn't
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Post by jaydee on Oct 26, 2022 19:58:49 GMT
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Post by borchester on Oct 27, 2022 0:09:00 GMT
Well there you are Jaydee, you want independence but have so little faith in your countrymen that you drive an English motor. And I was not aware that Sunak was a member of UKIP, but I bow to your superior knowledge.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 27, 2022 4:04:55 GMT
Well there you are Jaydee, you want independence but have so little faith in your countrymen that you drive an English motor. And I was not aware that Sunak was a member of UKIP, but I bow to your superior knowledge. Well there you go. Could not even work out a spelling mistake. And What part of UKIP thinking translates to you being a member of UKIP. Are you here for debate or just another troll contributing nothing
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 27, 2022 9:41:03 GMT
Oh dear lol and she's already stated she wants to use the pound Sturgeon's IndyRef2 plan in tatters as EU to ban Scotland from bloc unless it joins Euro Nicola Sturgeon had suggested Scotland would not join the Euro as it was not "the right option".
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 27, 2022 9:42:31 GMT
Oh dear lol and she's already stated she wants to use the pound Sturgeon's IndyRef2 plan in tatters as EU to ban Scotland from bloc unless it joins Euro Nicola Sturgeon had suggested Scotland would not join the Euro as it was not "the right option".Her dream of rejoining the EU is OVER lol
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Post by thomas on Oct 27, 2022 12:03:46 GMT
Well there you are Jaydee, you want independence but have so little faith in your countrymen that you drive an English motor. And I was not aware that Sunak was a member of UKIP, but I bow to your superior knowledge. Well there you go. Could not even work out a spelling mistake. And What part of UKIP thinking translates to you being a member of UKIP. Are you here for debate or just another troll contributing nothing i cannae believe joining the euro is getting trotted out once again jaydee. Its like all the old hits are being regurgitated from 2014 as the yoons are out of ammo and have nothing new to say...
Joining the Euro for idiots...
The Eurozone Convergence Criteria (aka the Maastricht Criteria, as they were defined by the Maastricht Treaty in 1994) state five conditions that a country must fulfil before it is allowed entry into the Eurozone. These are:
1. Price stability – the country’s Consumer Price Inflation (HICP) rate must not be more than 1.5% above the rate of the three best performing Eurozone member states.
2. Sound public finances – the government’s deficit must not be higher than 3% of GDP.
3. Sustainable public finances – the government’s debt must not be higher than 60% of GDP.
4. Durability of convergence – the country’s long-term interest rate must not be more than 2% above the rate of the three best performing Eurozone member states in terms of price stability.
5. Exchange rate stability – the country’s existing currency must have been part of ERM II (Exchange Rate Mechanism II) for at least 2 years without severe tensions.
But the last of the five – essentially the last step before any country can join the Eurozone – is membership of ERM II for a minimum of two years. Now, unless the current UK government has a complete reversal in policy towards the Euro pretty much right now, Scotland cannot possibly be said to have been in ERM II for two years on independence day, because right up until then Scotland’s currency will have been Sterling, and so won’t have been in ERM II for two minutes, never mind two years.
wingsoverscotland.com/joining-the-euro-for-idiots/#more-50032
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