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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 30, 2024 11:05:43 GMT
Yet if it were Starmer on the receiving end you'd be up in arms.
I smell hypocrisy.
Were you up in arms over the Daily Mail devoting 2 weeks of headlines over Starmer and currygate that turned out to be a big pile of nothing? What was that you were saying about hypocrisy? I don't read the Daily Mail. |
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Post by witchfinder on Jun 30, 2024 11:15:36 GMT
No I am not suggesting anything, all I am doing is proving that for every claim that QT audiences are Left wing, or biased towards the Left, I can find an article somewhere which claims the opposite.
I will repeat the line once again Question Time audiences are based upon how people voted at the last general election.
So as there was no Reform UK in 2019, I am guessing that the producers based their audience on the Brexit Party support, which would be around 2%.
Yes I know this might seem unfair, but it isnt really, because polls can be wrong, and basing audiences on polls would leave producers MORE open to criticism. Whereas actual results from elections are not open to question, they are results.
The Corbynites were amongst the most ferocious of critics of Question Time, they were adamant that QT audiences were biased, and that the BBC was out to get Corbyn because ( to use a classic Corbynite line ) "the BBC was part of the establishment".
I dont buy any of it, I dont buy the charge that the BBC or QT is either Left wing or Right wing, and Farage is merely a sore loser, who cannot stand been scrutinised by those whos job it is to scrutinise and question.
MOST people of all political backgrounds are appaled that Rishi Sunak should be called a "P**i C**t", and will be shocked at some of the revalations about Reform UK, links to neo-na ( that word ), candidates linked to the BNP, comments about Hitler and comments about shooting illegal migrants.
Sorry, but a far right political party and racists simply go together, rather like a Magnet attracts Iron Filings.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 30, 2024 12:06:57 GMT
No I am not suggesting anything, all I am doing is proving that for every claim that QT audiences are Left wing, or biased towards the Left, I can find an article somewhere which claims the opposite. I will repeat the line once again Question Time audiences are based upon how people voted at the last general election.
So as there was no Reform UK in 2019, I am guessing that the producers based their audience on the Brexit Party support, which would be around 2%. Yes I know this might seem unfair, but it isnt really, because polls can be wrong, and basing audiences on polls would leave producers MORE open to criticism. Whereas actual results from elections are not open to question, they are results. The Corbynites were amongst the most ferocious of critics of Question Time, they were adamant that QT audiences were biased, and that the BBC was out to get Corbyn because ( to use a classic Corbynite line ) "the BBC was part of the establishment". I dont buy any of it, I dont buy the charge that the BBC or QT is either Left wing or Right wing, and Farage is merely a sore loser, who cannot stand been scrutinised by those whos job it is to scrutinise and question. MOST people of all political backgrounds are appaled that Rishi Sunak should be called a "P**i C**t", and will be shocked at some of the revalations about Reform UK, links to neo-na ( that word ), candidates linked to the BNP, comments about Hitler and comments about shooting illegal migrants. Sorry, but a far right political party and racists simply go together, rather like a Magnet attracts Iron Filings. I also can't help but wonder why if QT has an anti-Farrage agenda they've had him on the show so many times. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 30, 2024 12:22:26 GMT
No I am not suggesting anything, all I am doing is proving that for every claim that QT audiences are Left wing, or biased towards the Left, I can find an article somewhere which claims the opposite. I will repeat the line once again Question Time audiences are based upon how people voted at the last general election.
So as there was no Reform UK in 2019, I am guessing that the producers based their audience on the Brexit Party support, which would be around 2%. Yes I know this might seem unfair, but it isnt really, because polls can be wrong, and basing audiences on polls would leave producers MORE open to criticism. Whereas actual results from elections are not open to question, they are results. The Corbynites were amongst the most ferocious of critics of Question Time, they were adamant that QT audiences were biased, and that the BBC was out to get Corbyn because ( to use a classic Corbynite line ) "the BBC was part of the establishment". I dont buy any of it, I dont buy the charge that the BBC or QT is either Left wing or Right wing, and Farage is merely a sore loser, who cannot stand been scrutinised by those whos job it is to scrutinise and question. MOST people of all political backgrounds are appaled that Rishi Sunak should be called a "P**i C**t", and will be shocked at some of the revalations about Reform UK, links to neo-na ( that word ), candidates linked to the BNP, comments about Hitler and comments about shooting illegal migrants. Sorry, but a far right political party and racists simply go together, rather like a Magnet attracts Iron Filings.A bit like Labour then and anti-semites. |
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Post by witchfinder on Jun 30, 2024 12:26:49 GMT
No I am not suggesting anything, all I am doing is proving that for every claim that QT audiences are Left wing, or biased towards the Left, I can find an article somewhere which claims the opposite. I will repeat the line once again Question Time audiences are based upon how people voted at the last general election.
So as there was no Reform UK in 2019, I am guessing that the producers based their audience on the Brexit Party support, which would be around 2%. Yes I know this might seem unfair, but it isnt really, because polls can be wrong, and basing audiences on polls would leave producers MORE open to criticism. Whereas actual results from elections are not open to question, they are results. The Corbynites were amongst the most ferocious of critics of Question Time, they were adamant that QT audiences were biased, and that the BBC was out to get Corbyn because ( to use a classic Corbynite line ) "the BBC was part of the establishment". I dont buy any of it, I dont buy the charge that the BBC or QT is either Left wing or Right wing, and Farage is merely a sore loser, who cannot stand been scrutinised by those whos job it is to scrutinise and question. MOST people of all political backgrounds are appaled that Rishi Sunak should be called a "P**i C**t", and will be shocked at some of the revalations about Reform UK, links to neo-na ( that word ), candidates linked to the BNP, comments about Hitler and comments about shooting illegal migrants. Sorry, but a far right political party and racists simply go together, rather like a Magnet attracts Iron Filings.A bit like Labour then and anti-semites. Except that the Labour Party is not a far Left political party - same as the Conservative Party is not far Right |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2024 12:28:04 GMT
No I am not suggesting anything, all I am doing is proving that for every claim that QT audiences are Left wing, or biased towards the Left, I can find an article somewhere which claims the opposite. I will repeat the line once again Question Time audiences are based upon how people voted at the last general election.
So as there was no Reform UK in 2019, I am guessing that the producers based their audience on the Brexit Party support, which would be around 2%. Yes I know this might seem unfair, but it isnt really, because polls can be wrong, and basing audiences on polls would leave producers MORE open to criticism. Whereas actual results from elections are not open to question, they are results. The Corbynites were amongst the most ferocious of critics of Question Time, they were adamant that QT audiences were biased, and that the BBC was out to get Corbyn because ( to use a classic Corbynite line ) "the BBC was part of the establishment". I dont buy any of it, I dont buy the charge that the BBC or QT is either Left wing or Right wing, and Farage is merely a sore loser, who cannot stand been scrutinised by those whos job it is to scrutinise and question. MOST people of all political backgrounds are appaled that Rishi Sunak should be called a "P**i C**t", and will be shocked at some of the revalations about Reform UK, links to neo-na ( that word ), candidates linked to the BNP, comments about Hitler and comments about shooting illegal migrants. Sorry, but a far right political party and racists simply go together, rather like a Magnet attracts Iron Filings.A bit like Labour then and anti-semites. Islamists seem to pretend to believe that everyone who disagrees with them are far-right. Farage actually boots out the bad actors whilst Labour embrace and protect them. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 30, 2024 13:10:55 GMT
No I am not suggesting anything, all I am doing is proving that for every claim that QT audiences are Left wing, or biased towards the Left, I can find an article somewhere which claims the opposite. I will repeat the line once again Question Time audiences are based upon how people voted at the last general election.
So as there was no Reform UK in 2019, I am guessing that the producers based their audience on the Brexit Party support, which would be around 2%. Yes I know this might seem unfair, but it isnt really, because polls can be wrong, and basing audiences on polls would leave producers MORE open to criticism. Whereas actual results from elections are not open to question, they are results. The Corbynites were amongst the most ferocious of critics of Question Time, they were adamant that QT audiences were biased, and that the BBC was out to get Corbyn because ( to use a classic Corbynite line ) "the BBC was part of the establishment". I dont buy any of it, I dont buy the charge that the BBC or QT is either Left wing or Right wing, and Farage is merely a sore loser, who cannot stand been scrutinised by those whos job it is to scrutinise and question. MOST people of all political backgrounds are appaled that Rishi Sunak should be called a "P**i C**t", and will be shocked at some of the revalations about Reform UK, links to neo-na ( that word ), candidates linked to the BNP, comments about Hitler and comments about shooting illegal migrants. Sorry, but a far right political party and racists simply go together, rather like a Magnet attracts Iron Filings.A bit like Labour then and anti-semites. And the Labour anti-Semitism got a lot of media coverage and scrutiny. That's how it works, if Farrage and Reform want to be taken seriously as a genuine political force then they need to stop the snowflake hissy fits and accept it. |
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Post by Dogburger on Jun 30, 2024 13:12:48 GMT
A stitch up isn't scrutiny. Spreading falsehoods isn't scrutiny.
It's fraud.
Sounds like a victim mentality to me. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Farage has been in the kitchen for 30 years and despite the best efforts of the MSM ,the conservative party , the Labour party ,the lib dems ,the EU ,Barrack Obama and George Soros none of them have been able to pin anything on him that people might find unsavoury ,thats illegal or racist . So what they do is try and find someone they can attack thats close to him . Nope nobody there either , how about someone in his past ,nope , schooldays ? Ah there is a 13 year old kid that said he goose stepped around the playground once that will do . How about someone wearing a Reform rosette ,nope , Oh fuck lets just plant someone . Its pathetic |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 30, 2024 13:21:10 GMT
Again you have not got to grips with the problem. If they base it on how people voted at the last election then the Tories would have almost half the people there and labour about a third and no reform supporters at all as they did not exist. However Fiona Bruce stated specifically there were Green and Reform supporters there so there must have been a method of asking people their voting intentions beforehand and some form of selection procedure to ensure that the audience was in some way 'balanced'. How did that work, who did the selection what procedures did they use and how were the questions selected. It is no use saying the audience is selected on the basis of the previous election as by their own words they said that was not the case. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 30, 2024 13:25:55 GMT
Ref bias on BBC Question time, come on posters, surely this comes as no surprise. In January due to an audience backlash Ofcom launched another investigation into BBC Question Time because the TV audience complained that the studio audience appeared to be made up of 'woke liberals'. My only surprise is, some people appear to be surprised at BBC bias.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 30, 2024 13:29:03 GMT
Sounds like a victim mentality to me. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Farage has been in the kitchen for 30 years and despite the best efforts of the MSM ,the conservative party , the Labour party ,the lib dems ,the EU ,Barrack Obama and George Soros none of them have been able to pin anything on him that people might find unsavoury ,thats illegal or racist . So what they do is try and find someone they can attack thats close to him . Nope nobody there either , how about someone in his past ,nope , schooldays ? Ah there is a 13 year old kid that said he goose stepped around the playground once that will do . How about someone wearing a Reform rosette ,nope , Oh fuck lets just plant someone . Its pathetic I think that Farrage for the most part has been given a remarkably easy ride in the media, that's why he's getting so tetchy now. If the British media had held him to account the way this Irish broadcaster did he'd have really struggled: metro.co.uk/2024/06/04/nigel-farage-crushed-reporter-resurfaced-clip-hoax-blunder-20968350/ |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 30, 2024 13:40:28 GMT
Farage has been in the kitchen for 30 years and despite the best efforts of the MSM ,the conservative party , the Labour party ,the lib dems ,the EU ,Barrack Obama and George Soros none of them have been able to pin anything on him that people might find unsavoury ,thats illegal or racist . So what they do is try and find someone they can attack thats close to him . Nope nobody there either , how about someone in his past ,nope , schooldays ? Ah there is a 13 year old kid that said he goose stepped around the playground once that will do . How about someone wearing a Reform rosette ,nope , Oh fuck lets just plant someone . Its pathetic I think that Farrage for the most part has been given a remarkably easy ride in the media, that's why he's getting so tetchy now. If the British media had held him to account the way this Irish broadcaster did he'd have really struggled: metro.co.uk/2024/06/04/nigel-farage-crushed-reporter-resurfaced-clip-hoax-blunder-20968350/Holding to account for a specific faux pas is just the ticket, but referring every policy to that faux pas is just plain wrong. One faux pas does not define a man's whole ethos, just as we accept Lammy thought the Holy Smoke was racist, that some LIbDEms think a woman can have a penis and that Starmer looks back on all those photos with Corbyn and where he took the knee with a degree of regret. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 30, 2024 13:46:43 GMT
RTE! Are you having a laugh? ' RTE' for fuck sake lol. Yes indeed posters, RTE that well known bastion of democracy and free speech. A massively pro EU TV company that has always hated Farage, and broadcasts from the EU state of Ireland. Tbh, if that's the best you can come up with, you'd be better off comming up with nothing. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 30, 2024 13:46:44 GMT
No I am not suggesting anything, all I am doing is proving that for every claim that QT audiences are Left wing, or biased towards the Left, I can find an article somewhere which claims the opposite. I will repeat the line once again Question Time audiences are based upon how people voted at the last general election.
So as there was no Reform UK in 2019, I am guessing that the producers based their audience on the Brexit Party support, which would be around 2%. Yes I know this might seem unfair, but it isnt really, because polls can be wrong, and basing audiences on polls would leave producers MORE open to criticism. Whereas actual results from elections are not open to question, they are results. The Corbynites were amongst the most ferocious of critics of Question Time, they were adamant that QT audiences were biased, and that the BBC was out to get Corbyn because ( to use a classic Corbynite line ) "the BBC was part of the establishment". I dont buy any of it, I dont buy the charge that the BBC or QT is either Left wing or Right wing, and Farage is merely a sore loser, who cannot stand been scrutinised by those whos job it is to scrutinise and question. MOST people of all political backgrounds are appaled that Rishi Sunak should be called a "P**i C**t", and will be shocked at some of the revalations about Reform UK, links to neo-na ( that word ), candidates linked to the BNP, comments about Hitler and comments about shooting illegal migrants. Sorry, but a far right political party and racists simply go together, rather like a Magnet attracts Iron Filings. What far right party? |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 30, 2024 13:46:52 GMT
Holding to account for a specific faux pas is just the ticket, but referring every policy to that faux pas is just plain wrong. One faux pas does not define a man's whole ethos, just as we accept Lammy thought the Holy Smoke was racist, that some LIbDEms think a woman can have a penis and that Starmer looks back on all those photos with Corbyn and where he took the knee with a degree of regret. Farrage went on Irish TV and presumed to lecture an Irish broadcaster about Irish history. He quite deservedly got shown up for being ignorant and entitled. |
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