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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 30, 2024 13:48:39 GMT
RTE! Are you having a laugh? ' RTE' for fuck sake lol. Yes indeed posters, RTE that well known bastion of democracy and free speech. A massively pro EU TV company that has always hated Farage, and broadcasts from the EU state of Ireland. Tbh, if that's the best you can come up with, you'd be better off comming up with nothing. Looks to me like you shooting the messenger because your man got his arse handed to him on a plate.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 30, 2024 13:54:44 GMT
Looks to me like you shooting the messenger because your man got his arse handed to him on a plate. LOL if you say so. I assure you, I care not a jot what some TV company in the EU says.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 30, 2024 14:04:15 GMT
Looks to me like you shooting the messenger because your man got his arse handed to him on a plate. LOL if you say so. I assure you, I care not a jot what some TV company in the EU says. Farrage got shown up by something Farrage said.
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Post by om15 on Jun 30, 2024 14:16:34 GMT
I have just watched Nigel Farage give his speech at the NEC Birmingham today. It is my opinion that no British politician has managed to give such a powerful non scripted delivery for at least 50 years. The childish Channel 4 stitch up and the dreadful BBC leftism we have seen this week contrasts the current state of the UK to what it might be under some positive enthusiastic leadership. We know Reform won't get very far in this election, but the fact that at least someone will oppose the Californian woke excesses of Starmer's Government with its perverted child gender laws and revolting left wing ideology is a comfort, next time round may be different once everyone has had a taste of socialism.
As a slight aside, after watching the spectacle of this years Glastonbury I feel it would be better to plough up the fields and plant cabbages than allow it to continue next year.
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Post by Dogburger on Jun 30, 2024 14:50:50 GMT
Farage has been in the kitchen for 30 years and despite the best efforts of the MSM ,the conservative party , the Labour party ,the lib dems ,the EU ,Barrack Obama and George Soros none of them have been able to pin anything on him that people might find unsavoury ,thats illegal or racist . So what they do is try and find someone they can attack thats close to him . Nope nobody there either , how about someone in his past ,nope , schooldays ? Ah there is a 13 year old kid that said he goose stepped around the playground once that will do . How about someone wearing a Reform rosette ,nope , Oh fuck lets just plant someone . Its pathetic I think that Farrage for the most part has been given a remarkably easy ride in the media, that's why he's getting so tetchy now. If the British media had held him to account the way this Irish broadcaster did he'd have really struggled: metro.co.uk/2024/06/04/nigel-farage-crushed-reporter-resurfaced-clip-hoax-blunder-20968350/As has been said that was another pathetic attempt to trip Farage up . No further comment on that is needed . But we all know politics is a dirty game and the Westminster bubble must be protected at all cost which we have seen whenever Farage has got close when they wheel out the dirty tricks
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Post by witchfinder on Jun 30, 2024 15:56:36 GMT
If Reform UK are lucky, and based on polls, Reform UK could end up with as many as 7 seats
Is this not simply sour grapes on the part of Nigel Farage ?
He CLAIMS that the Question Time audience was either fixed, rigged or against him, or that it was some kind of set-up, well I would believe his claim if he actually found some evidence, but to date there is none. Politicians of every persuassion have made similar claims about Question Time.
I remember the QT producers insisting that Nick Griffin of the BNP had every right to be on the panel, due to his party winning seats and votes in the European elections, I also remember the demonstrations outside the studios protesting at his inclusion.
QT has had every kind of accusation you can think of thrown at it .. Pro European, anti European, anti Scottish, pro Tory, pro Labour, anti Tory.
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Post by sandypine on Jun 30, 2024 19:00:24 GMT
Holding to account for a specific faux pas is just the ticket, but referring every policy to that faux pas is just plain wrong. One faux pas does not define a man's whole ethos, just as we accept Lammy thought the Holy Smoke was racist, that some LIbDEms think a woman can have a penis and that Starmer looks back on all those photos with Corbyn and where he took the knee with a degree of regret. Farrage went on Irish TV and presumed to lecture an Irish broadcaster about Irish history. He quite deservedly got shown up for being ignorant and entitled. Where did I disagree? He cannot be 100% right all the time, have you got any idea which politicians is, if you have let us know? Sunak and Starmer have had their fair share of 'moments'. The problem the left have is one mistake from a R winger then cancellation is imperative, one mistake from a L winger and the excuses come tumbling out. If being wrong about Irish history is the best mistake you can find then I think cancellation is some distance off.
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Post by sandypine on Jun 30, 2024 19:24:48 GMT
If Reform UK are lucky, and based on polls, Reform UK could end up with as many as 7 seats Is this not simply sour grapes on the part of Nigel Farage ? He CLAIMS that the Question Time audience was either fixed, rigged or against him, or that it was some kind of set-up, well I would believe his claim if he actually found some evidence, but to date there is none. Politicians of every persuassion have made similar claims about Question Time. I remember the QT producers insisting that Nick Griffin of the BNP had every right to be on the panel, due to his party winning seats and votes in the European elections, I also remember the demonstrations outside the studios protesting at his inclusion. QT has had every kind of accusation you can think of thrown at it .. Pro European, anti European, anti Scottish, pro Tory, pro Labour, anti Tory. You raised the Griffin QT and the first three 'questions' were directed at Griffin and the 'impartial Chairman' did not allow him to reply, one 'question' was actually an attempt at a joke which was poorly delivered, partially mangled and the punchline stuttered but oh how the audience loved it. It seems your inability to be subjective as regards QT and your unerring belief that Reform is a piddly little blip that not many people support may be in essence a reasonable assessment in many ways however the BBC hold that they are impartial and that unerring belief in their own impartiality, when everyone can see how biased they are when reporting the likes of Corbyn or Farage, seems like a belief that will eventually see their demise as a state funded broadcaster. They are pro EU as some of their funding came through an application to the EU for funding which was granted. Despite the BBC denying that it existed it took an FOI to prise the information out with very little detail. EU funding usually came with caveats as regards how the EU were to be presented. Europhiles believe everyone who allows any criticism of the EU to be aired is anti EU. Scottish politics are innately boring and as a Scot living in Scotland I have no qualms about saying that. If I am bored with Scottish politics then you can be sure that any production of QT involving Scotland will crash and burn in terms of ratings. It matters little if it is pro Tory or pro Labour they are in essence identical. They are decidedly anti Corbyn anti BNP, anti UKIP, anti Reform and anti Farage and it is not their place to be such.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 30, 2024 19:53:03 GMT
If Reform UK are lucky, and based on polls, Reform UK could end up with as many as 7 seats... If the UK is lucky, Reform will get way more than that. If not, the UK will be stuck with a fascist, Labour dictatorship and we will deserve it.
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Post by Bentley on Jun 30, 2024 20:00:33 GMT
I suspect that 7 reform MPs will be more effective at bringing a Labour government to account than Captain hindsight &co.
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 30, 2024 23:32:18 GMT
A bit like Labour then and anti-semites. And the Labour anti-Semitism got a lot of media coverage and scrutiny. That's how it works, if Farrage and Reform want to be taken seriously as a genuine political force then they need to stop the snowflake hissy fits and accept it. Eh, Farage and Reform are free to defend themselves.
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 1, 2024 7:35:35 GMT
Its everywhere, the Russian thing, racists in reform, racist language etc, the establishment fear him. And the count of Reform MPS in parliament will rise. Voting Tory or Labour has become toxic. Get these people OUT. Only people smearing Reform are the xenophobic, homophobic candidates that they are pushing on the electorate. I am still standing by my 2-6 seats for Reform prediction. All The Best
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 1, 2024 7:47:37 GMT
Take away the undercover Channel 4 issue
Take away the BBC Question Time accusations
Take away the Ukraine contoversy
Your still left with plenty other controversies, withdrawn candidates, candidates who have turned on Reform UK, racist remarks, homophobia, comments about Hitler and immigrants, Muslims and foreigners.
These apologists for Reform are burying their heads in the sand, the party is not only riddled with bigots, it attracts them like a Magnet attracts Iron Filings, and people are in denial.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 1, 2024 8:09:58 GMT
Take away the undercover Channel 4 issue Take away the BBC Question Time accusations Take away the Ukraine contoversy... Well, at least you accept that those are falsehoods. Your still left with plenty other controversies, withdrawn candidates, candidates who have turned on Reform UK, racist remarks, homophobia, comments about Hitler and immigrants, Muslims and foreigners... And similar could apply to Labour: Racist remarks, anti-Semitism, support for terrorists, inability to define what a woman is etc. etc. Labour is riddled with extremists, it attracts them like a Magnet attracts iron filings, and Labour voters are in denial.
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 1, 2024 8:11:28 GMT
Take away the undercover Channel 4 issue Take away the BBC Question Time accusations Take away the Ukraine contoversy Your still left with plenty other controversies, withdrawn candidates, candidates who have turned on Reform UK, racist remarks, homophobia, comments about Hitler and immigrants, Muslims and foreigners. These apologists for Reform are burying their heads in the sand, the party is not only riddled with bigots, it attracts them like a Magnet attracts Iron Filings, and people are in denial.No different to Labour acting as a magnet for anti-semites and men dressed as women.
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