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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2024 19:02:21 GMT
Simple, because as stated in my post, Farage has not presented any evidence to back his claim, and unless he can do so, I reckon that OFCOM will tell him to go away and stop been so stupid. Are you going to spit your dummy out now ? Just imagine a Hamas supporting anti-Israel twisted dude from Montegriffo's troll farm supporting the establishment. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 29, 2024 19:03:40 GMT
There is absolutely nothing within the article to suggest that Channel 4 set Reform UK up, or planted an actor, it is all circumstantial, a supposition, a theory. There is plenty to suggest it . |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 29, 2024 19:05:50 GMT
Just imagine a Hamas supporting anti-Israel twisted dude from Montegriffo's troll farm supporting the establishment. They are trying to keep the denials going until a new smear oozes out if them . |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 29, 2024 19:06:55 GMT
There is absolutely nothing within the article to suggest that Channel 4 set Reform UK up, or planted an actor, it is all circumstantial, a supposition, a theory. It is full of happy coincidences for channel 4 and why would a bona fida canvasser speak in his acting voice on his first day and until he finished, why would he deny he was an actor, why did channel 4 choose him to go round with when many other regulars were available, his specialities were villainous accents and covert filming. Nothing to see here if one is an ostrich. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 29, 2024 19:50:46 GMT
Is Farage being smeared for one party volunteer? I suggest much of the antipathy to him is due to his behaviour, and history of being able to attract visible/vocal support from such similar people since the 1990's as he progressed through Ukip, the Brexit Party, Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy, and took a majority holding in Reform UK... Islam garners support from some pretty despicable people but what the left do is cry do not blame Islam for the actions, beliefs and sayings of some who follow the religion. So why does that not apply to a political party most especially when that political party gets rid of volunteers who act badly? The party may attract those who are racist because their policies on immigration are more stringent and believable than either Tory or Labour as well as the Greens and the LibDems. That is just a fact of life it neither means that those people will get their way nor that those are views held by the majority in the party. However even 'racists', however you describe them, are allowed an opinion and a vote and to show support for any political party. You might find it easier to discuss over here Sandy. Where we can filter out the children. You can see my thoughts there. ukopenpolitical.freeforums.net/thread/182/reform-manifesto-contract?page=1&scrollTo=6157 |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 29, 2024 20:26:23 GMT
Islam garners support from some pretty despicable people but what the left do is cry do not blame Islam for the actions, beliefs and sayings of some who follow the religion. So why does that not apply to a political party most especially when that political party gets rid of volunteers who act badly? The party may attract those who are racist because their policies on immigration are more stringent and believable than either Tory or Labour as well as the Greens and the LibDems. That is just a fact of life it neither means that those people will get their way nor that those are views held by the majority in the party. However even 'racists', however you describe them, are allowed an opinion and a vote and to show support for any political party. You might find it easier to discuss over here Sandy. Where we can filter out the children. You can see my thoughts there. ukopenpolitical.freeforums.net/thread/182/reform-manifesto-contract?page=1&scrollTo=6157Poaching posters ? |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 29, 2024 20:27:05 GMT
Islam garners support from some pretty despicable people but what the left do is cry do not blame Islam for the actions, beliefs and sayings of some who follow the religion. So why does that not apply to a political party most especially when that political party gets rid of volunteers who act badly? The party may attract those who are racist because their policies on immigration are more stringent and believable than either Tory or Labour as well as the Greens and the LibDems. That is just a fact of life it neither means that those people will get their way nor that those are views held by the majority in the party. However even 'racists', however you describe them, are allowed an opinion and a vote and to show support for any political party. You might find it easier to discuss over here Sandy. Where we can filter out the children. You can see my thoughts there. ukopenpolitical.freeforums.net/thread/182/reform-manifesto-contract?page=1&scrollTo=6157I am perfectly happy here and with a host of other things to do I only dip in from time to time. I really do not want to filter out anyone. Even those who seem like professional agitators are interesting and the left seems to hire them or have them on a regular basis. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 29, 2024 20:30:31 GMT
Is Farage being smeared for one party volunteer? .... To judge from the BBC page tonight, of course he bloody well is The Lefty Scum take three screens to launch attacks at Farage before in the interests of not having their rabid left wing arse cheeks roundly kicked by a regulator they grudgingly admit that ALL the main parties have found themselves faced with having to dusown a candidate after they were nominated. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 29, 2024 20:42:48 GMT
Your there already, just want some interesting posters to come over. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 29, 2024 20:45:50 GMT
I am perfectly happy here and with a host of other things to do I only dip in from time to time. I really do not want to filter out anyone. Even those who seem like professional agitators are interesting and the left seems to hire them or have them on a regular basis. Fair do's. But I post much more balanced stuff over there which you can't do here. FYI here's what i posted over there. Its interesting why Reform attracts so many racists etc. Farage seems genuinely annoyed by the stuff that keeps happening. So is Farage really a racist playing down his true thoughts on people from certain other continents or is his party against further immigration and that just happens to be the nearest thing to a party the racists can support. In the words of our beloved Red Rackham. Its not racist to want immigration stopped. Does the endless accusation of racism for even mentioning someone's country of origin if they aren't white and the penalising anyone who should accidentally use the term 'coloured' 'black' 'person of colour' instead of this weeks acceptable description. Lead many to feel they are nearer Farage than they otherwise would be. Orac raised an interesting point on here. When he suggested that if you bring enough people from different culture (one you don't admire) into this country, don't you risk losing your own culture. What was interesting was not so much Orac's particular view, but rather the fact that everyone immediately pulled out all the stops to distance themselves from the idea to the point where it was difficult to have the idea properly discussed at all. My fear is that by being too prissy we end up driving more and more into the arms of the fascists. I mean did the Nazis realise they were Nazis when they elected Hitler. I'm reminded of this sketch by Mitchell and Web. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oYSee yer. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 29, 2024 20:47:36 GMT
You’re there already, just want some interesting posters to come over. You’re over there too .So you do need them . |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 29, 2024 20:50:22 GMT
You’re there already, just want some interesting posters to come over. You’re over there too .So you do need them . I love interesting conversation. Shame you don't. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 29, 2024 20:51:42 GMT
I am perfectly happy here and with a host of other things to do I only dip in from time to time. I really do not want to filter out anyone. Even those who seem like professional agitators are interesting and the left seems to hire them or have them on a regular basis. Fair do's. But I post much more balanced stuff over there which you can't do here. FYI here's what i posted over there. Its interesting why Reform attracts so many racists etc. Farage seems genuinely annoyed by the stuff that keeps happening. So is Farage really a racist playing down his true thoughts on people from certain other continents or is his party against further immigration and that just happens to be the nearest thing to a party the racists can support. In the words of our beloved Red Rackham. Its not racist to want immigration stopped. Does the endless accusation of racism for even mentioning someone's country of origin if they aren't white and the penalising anyone who should accidentally use the term 'coloured' 'black' 'person of colour' instead of this weeks acceptable description. Lead many to feel they are nearer Farage than they otherwise would be. Orac raised an interesting point on here. When he suggested that if you bring enough people from different culture (one you don't admire) into this country, don't you risk losing your own culture. What was interesting was not so much Orac's particular view, but rather the fact that everyone immediately pulled out all the stops to distance themselves from the idea to the point where it was difficult to have the idea properly discussed at all. My fear is that by being too prissy we end up driving more and more into the arms of the fascists. I mean did the Nazis realise they were Nazis when they elected Hitler. I'm reminded of this sketch by Mitchell and Web. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oYSee yer. It’s a non point . It’s like asking why Labour attracts so many communists , ex communists and wokeists Extremists will always try to infiltrate organisations that will empower them . |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 29, 2024 20:52:33 GMT
You’re over there too .So you do need them . I love interesting conversation. Shame you don't. I love interesting conversation as well . Shame you can’t supply it .As you are demonstrating. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 29, 2024 21:38:50 GMT
So Farage lashes out at not one, but two of our national broadcasters now He insists that Andrew Parker, the man who made various toxic and racist remarks was a plant, planted as an actor by Channel 4 to smear Reform UK, yet he has presented no evidence for such a claim, and Despatches have issued a statement rigorously denying the claim. Next comes Farage's other baseless claim, again with no evidence, that the BBC's flagship "Question Time" on which he appeared on Friday had a "rigged audience".
Well lets look at this claim. a poll out yesterday shows that 57% want the number of immigrants coming to the UK to fall. Yet the BBC could not find a single one who agreed with that to put in the audience and support that contention.. so exactly how representative of the public do you think that audience was? Drastic cut in immigration the favourite option for UK voters Going back to the Andrew Parker case - it took less than an hour after the story broke for it to be discovered that he was an actor and this working class shtick was a speciality for him - yet Ch4 maintain they were totally unaware. Seems their investigative journalism has limits.. |
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