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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 23, 2024 18:30:55 GMT
He's committed to not rejoining the single market despite the fact it would benefit the economy to do so. Pillock. Starmer spent the best part of three years desperately trying to overturn the biggest democratic vote in British political history, how can anyone possibly describe him as a democrat? And as Labour leader he openly said he would 'renegotiate' Brexit. Of course since Sunak announced the election Starmer has obviously gone quiet on his pro EU ambitions, lets not frighten the audience before the final curtain, eh. Make no mistake, Starmer is the EU's boy, he will ensure that the UK once again become EU law takers, subservient to an unelected cabal of commissioners and presidents who govern from, of all places, Belgium. Over the next five years the UK will in all but name re-join the EU of that there is no doubt. There is also no doubt this will once more push Farage to centre stage in British politics. Of course the agreement is due for review, I think it's next year? Almost sounds like you're surprised that there's better ways of doing Brexit, whilst complaining that Brexit is a pile of shit, whilst extolling the virtues of Brexit... 😂 |
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Post by Totheleft on Jun 23, 2024 18:50:50 GMT
So i take it he didnt repercent anyone . Did he he might of refused to do it . Especially seeing none of his political opponents has raised it . And your well known for throwing anti labour slurs around. We can all read that Shiner 'instructed' Starmer in 2005 to represent a 'suspected terrorist in suing the Govrnment for unlawful detention in Iraq'.. Starmer became the DPP in July 2008.
Then we go on to read that Shiner was 'struck off' 2017 12 years later, he faces trial in 2024
n June 2022, Shiner was charged with three counts of fraud and entered a plea of Not Guilty. The charges related to claims made against British soldiers in Iraq. Shiner is alleged to have failed to disclose to the Legal Aid Agency that he had engaged in cold-calling to solicit cases and had paid referral fees to agents in Iraq. It is also alleged that he committed fraud by false representation by providing an ‘untrue and misleading’ response to a question from the Solicitors Regulation Authority. In November 2022 a Trial Date was set in September 2024
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You left this out why ? A year after the case was lost, Sir Keir again acted for Mr Shiner and his firm Public Interest Lawyers, this time representing Hilal Al-Jedda, a suspected terrorist. The suspect had been detained in a British facility in Basra for three years, accused of “recruiting terrorists outside of Iraq with a view to the commission of atrocities there”. Acting under the instruction of Public Interest Lawyers, which is now defunct, Sir Keir headed the legal team which sued the Government over a breach of Mr Al-Jedda’s human rights. So in this case he won and rightly so. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 23, 2024 18:53:26 GMT
We can all read that Shiner 'instructed' Starmer in 2005 to represent a 'suspected terrorist in suing the Govrnment for unlawful detention in Iraq'.. Starmer became the DPP in July 2008.
Then we go on to read that Shiner was 'struck off' 2017 12 years later, he faces trial in 2024
n June 2022, Shiner was charged with three counts of fraud and entered a plea of Not Guilty. The charges related to claims made against British soldiers in Iraq. Shiner is alleged to have failed to disclose to the Legal Aid Agency that he had engaged in cold-calling to solicit cases and had paid referral fees to agents in Iraq. It is also alleged that he committed fraud by false representation by providing an ‘untrue and misleading’ response to a question from the Solicitors Regulation Authority. In November 2022 a Trial Date was set in September 2024
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You left this out why ? A year after the case was lost, Sir Keir again acted for Mr Shiner and his firm Public Interest Lawyers, this time representing Hilal Al-Jedda, a suspected terrorist. The suspect had been detained in a British facility in Basra for three years, accused of “recruiting terrorists outside of Iraq with a view to the commission of atrocities there”. Acting under the instruction of Public Interest Lawyers, which is now defunct, Sir Keir headed the legal team which sued the Government over a breach of Mr Al-Jedda’s human rights. So in this case he won and rightly so. Yes it's what we said, Sir Keir represents terrorists, now he pretends if he becomes Prime Minister he will fight against them.
He's not Prime Minister qualities he's a Prime double standard hypocrite of the highest order.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 23, 2024 18:59:00 GMT
Of course the agreement is due for review, I think it's next year? Almost sounds like you're surprised that there's better ways of doing Brexit, whilst complaining that Brexit is a pile of shit, whilst extolling the virtues of Brexit... 😂 Jeez, who let all the pillocks out? Andrew, you're not usually this naive. You are perfectly aware that Brexit has been less successful than it could have been because 72% of MP's (at the time of the referendum) every prime minister since the referendum apart from Liz Truss, the Home Office and Civil Service, are all pro EU. They don't care what the majority voted for. If you deny that, you need to go play with the kiddies on Gumtree. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jun 23, 2024 19:03:08 GMT
You left this out why ? A year after the case was lost, Sir Keir again acted for Mr Shiner and his firm Public Interest Lawyers, this time representing Hilal Al-Jedda, a suspected terrorist. The suspect had been detained in a British facility in Basra for three years, accused of “recruiting terrorists outside of Iraq with a view to the commission of atrocities there”. Acting under the instruction of Public Interest Lawyers, which is now defunct, Sir Keir headed the legal team which sued the Government over a breach of Mr Al-Jedda’s human rights. So in this case he won and rightly so. Yes it's what we said, Sir Keir represents terrorists, now he pretends if he becomes Prime Minister he will fight against them.
He's not Prime Minister qualities he's a Prime double repercented
Susspected terrorists let's get it right who turned out to be innocent. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 23, 2024 19:06:21 GMT
We should think very carefully before committing our military resources to the EU .
We could work together and be allies but to totally commit to a quasi federal alliance that we have just left is unwise .
EU countries shouldn’t be poncing off the Uk. They should commit to increasing their own military budgets first .
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 23, 2024 19:25:23 GMT
Of course the agreement is due for review, I think it's next year? Almost sounds like you're surprised that there's better ways of doing Brexit, whilst complaining that Brexit is a pile of shit, whilst extolling the virtues of Brexit... 😂 Jeez, who let all the pillocks out? Andrew, you're not usually this naive. You are perfectly aware that Brexit has been less successful than it could have been because 72% of MP's (at the time of the referendum) every prime minister since the referendum apart from Liz Truss, the Home Office and Civil Service, are all pro EU. They don't care what the majority voted for. If you deny that, you need to go play with the kiddies on Gumtree. I'll translate that as most politicians thought it was a bad idea. (Don't blame them because it was.) But you had 2 general elections after that, 2017 and 2019, and in 2019 Boris made the Tories sign a pledge. If you think this isn't enough, then maybe, just maybe, the politicians thought it was a bad idea? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 23, 2024 19:32:58 GMT
Jeez, who let all the pillocks out? Andrew, you're not usually this naive. You are perfectly aware that Brexit has been less successful than it could have been because 72% of MP's (at the time of the referendum) every prime minister since the referendum apart from Liz Truss, the Home Office and Civil Service, are all pro EU. They don't care what the majority voted for. If you deny that, you need to go play with the kiddies on Gumtree. I'll translate that as most politicians thought it was a bad idea. (Don't blame them because it was.) But you had 2 general elections after that, 2017 and 2019, and in 2019 Boris made the Tories sign a pledge. If you think this isn't enough, then maybe, just maybe, the politicians thought it was a bad idea? If you think, as it seems you do, that the will of politicians is more important than the will of the people, then there's little point in continuing this discussion. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jun 23, 2024 19:36:27 GMT
I'll translate that as most politicians thought it was a bad idea. (Don't blame them because it was.) But you had 2 general elections after that, 2017 and 2019, and in 2019 Boris made the Tories sign a pledge. If you think this isn't enough, then maybe, just maybe, the politicians thought it was a bad idea? If you think, as it seems you do, that the will of politicians is more important than the will of the people, then there's little point in continuing this discussion. RR has the saying goes whats popular isn't always right . And whats right isnt always popular. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 23, 2024 19:37:32 GMT
I'll translate that as most politicians thought it was a bad idea. (Don't blame them because it was.) But you had 2 general elections after that, 2017 and 2019, and in 2019 Boris made the Tories sign a pledge. If you think this isn't enough, then maybe, just maybe, the politicians thought it was a bad idea? If you think, as it seems you do, that the will of politicians is more important than the will of the people, then there's little point in continuing this discussion. Blimey, it's almost as if you think that the outcome of general elections is not the will of the people. 🙄 |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 23, 2024 19:43:24 GMT
We should think very carefully before committing our military resources to the EU . We could work together and be allies but to totally commit to a quasi federal alliance that we have just left is unwise . EU countries shouldn’t be poncing off the Uk. They should commit to increasing their own military budgets first . Bentley I kid you not, it started in the late 1980's and by the 1990's an EU army was definately on the agenda and I can tell you the EU wanted British troops under their control. Politicians and VSO's publicly denied it but if you were on the ground it was pretty obvious we were being groomed for a future in an EU army, and that was thanks to John (The bastard) Major. That SOB should be tried for treason. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 23, 2024 19:46:48 GMT
If you think, as it seems you do, that the will of politicians is more important than the will of the people, then there's little point in continuing this discussion. Blimey, it's almost as if you think that the outcome of general elections is not the will of the people. 🙄 And your thoughts on the outcome of the biggest vote in British political history... |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 23, 2024 19:50:18 GMT
Blimey, it's almost as if you think that the outcome of general elections is not the will of the people. 🙄 And your thoughts on the outcome of the biggest vote in British political history... It actually wasn't, that myth has been dispelled. However, what was voted for, no more, no less, was leaving the EU. We left. We can all see that this was the piling steam of sh1t that almost half the country said it would be. We left, you won, get over it. But if most people want back in, you can't really blame them? |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 23, 2024 19:53:50 GMT
And your thoughts on the outcome of the biggest vote in British political history... It actually wasn't, that myth has been dispelled. However, what was voted for, no more, no less, was leaving the EU. We can all see that this was the piling steam of sh1t that almost half the country said it would be. We left, you won, get over it. But if most people want back in, you can't really blame them? As has been explained to you umpteen times , most people do not want ‘ back in ‘ because they do not know the terms of rejoining. The reality is that this lie reflects answers in polls to half baked questions . |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 23, 2024 19:58:46 GMT
It actually wasn't, that myth has been dispelled. However, what was voted for, no more, no less, was leaving the EU. We can all see that this was the piling steam of sh1t that almost half the country said it would be. We left, you won, get over it. But if most people want back in, you can't really blame them? As has been explained to you umpteen times , most people do not want ‘ back in ‘ because they do not know the terms of rejoining. The reality is that this lie reflects answers in polls to half baked questions . Of course if you'd read what I said, I didn't claim that. I claimed that most people think Brexit is a steaming pile of sh1t. And of course that's true, including people that voted for it. |
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