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Post by jonksy on Jun 17, 2024 2:49:59 GMT
You’re supposed to emergency stop for cattle, not accelerate. Obviously they’ve never met a cow - or the Highway Code - before. Maybe if they’d spent less time playing Grand Theft Auto they have a better grasp of reality.... Shocking new video shows one of the FIVE times a terrified calf was brutally mown down by police before it was left wounded in a park for 'two hours' amid claims cops were 'radioing for armed response to shoot it' - with one officer suspended amid backlash....... www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13536719/Terrified-calf-rammed-police-scared-witless-two-hours.html |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2024 6:30:01 GMT
This used to be a humane country, but this was before both Labour and the Tories insisted on turning it into a cesspit run and maintained by unprofessional and barbaric scum.
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Post by Handyman on Jun 17, 2024 7:40:56 GMT
Surrey Police said it will refer itself to the police complaints watchdog following an incident in which a cow was deliberately struck twice by a response vehicle. The force said in a statement that after attempts to safely capture the cow “over a period of a number of hours” failed, “the decision was made to stop it using a police car”. Home Secretary James Cleverly said he would be asking for an urgent explanation, describing the actions as "heavy handed". The RSPCA said the police response, which saw the animal hit twice by a marked vehicle in Staines-on-Thames, "appears disproportionate". Footage shared online shows a marked vehicle ramming into the cow, which appears to be stunned and tries to get to its feet, before being hit a second time. In the 26-second video, bystanders can be heard reacting in shock as the cow is struck by the vehicle. An eyewitness told BBC News the incident was "distressing for everyone" who saw it. Adrian Pearson said: "I think it could have been handled better. It's quite extreme the way the police dealt with it. "I think it could have been dealt with a lot more humanely. I think it was quite distressing for everyone." The animal has been seen by a vet and is receiving treatment for a large cut to its leg, Surrey Police said. “This matter has been referred to our professional standards department. "The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) has been notified and a voluntary referral will be made in due course,” the force said in a statement. Ch Insp Tatton Sam Adcock added: “The decision to use the police car is one that was only taken after other methods to stop the cow had failed." IMHO I suspect the Officer did not like having to do it, if the Cow had injured anyone , the Police would be blamed for not doing anything Excuses by the police because it was caught on camera - the driver didn't just run it over once - he/she went back for more do I disagree with your last line (If they were so intent on using cars why didn't they use cars to block it in? There were more than enough of them there) As I stated quite clearly in my earlier post " A horrible thing to do " you and I have the benefit of hindsight and did not have to deal with it , it is something the Police have little or no experience in dealing with either, Where I am now living in is farming country I am living next to my brother in laws farm, yesterday Sunday the local farmers meet in the pub after Mass to have a pint and watch sport , they were talking about this and related stories when they have had to deal with a calf or cow that goes crazy, they don't know why but it happens on rare occasions They will break out of the field, run through fences jump walls and charge the Farmer and their dogs , depending what breed of cattle they can weigh between 800lbs and 1500lbs of pure muscle, the nearest vet to here is 40 miles away if they can they will corner it until the Vet can get to them to tranquilizer it with a dart and put it down, if not they will shoot the calf or cow, there is no alternative. I have no idea if this cow had gone crazy as above or simply escaped and was terrified, when any animal gets corned it will charge , did the Police do the right thing or not I am not qualified to say one way or the other |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 17, 2024 9:58:10 GMT
Half a story as usual. The cow had been running amok for several hours prior to that, causing damage various. I'd imagine that if someone had been injured by it the same people would be complaining that the police should have stopped it sooner. Several hours? Running amok? You must have seen a different video to me Normal people (there must be some in the police?) would have herded it into a garden , called a vet or a farmer in those ''several hours'' Abnormal people deliberately run them over I think the point is the STORY makes the claim the animal had indeed been running amok for some time before this.
I'm surprised they didn't call in a vet or firearms team to deal with it if it had been a problem for that length of time
And I've seen the damage an animal of just that size can inflict. So it makes me even more incredulous they did not act in that way
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 17, 2024 10:04:28 GMT
This 'cow' wasn't much more than a calf, she was ten months old which is why she fit under the front of a police car. Had that idiot copper driven into a 1000kg adult cow the damage to his patrol car would have been significant.
Anyone who thinks a ten month old calf is frightening or dangerous needs to get out more, perhaps visit a farm. Actually, I would have thought a walk around many of the wonderfully multicultural boroughs of London would pose a far greater risk to ones health than happening upon a ten month old calf.
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Post by Handyman on Jun 17, 2024 10:49:02 GMT
This 'cow' wasn't much more than a calf, she was ten months old which is why she fit under the front of a police car. Had that idiot copper driven into a 1000kg adult cow the damage to his patrol car would have been significant. Anyone who thinks a ten month old calf is frightening or dangerous needs to get out more, perhaps visit a farm. Actually, I would have thought a walk around many of the wonderfully multicultural boroughs of London would pose a far greater risk to ones health than happening upon a ten month old calf. It appears that one Officer has been suspended which is probably the one that drove into more than once, as for calling a Vet as JoG suggested I would think most Vets in Towns probably only deal with small animals and may not posses a tranquilizer rifle which you need for much bigger animals. Red personally I would not like to try and wrestle with a 10 month old calf they are strong, I have been helping my brother in law with sheep, they are much easier to man handle but quite strong a Ram can be quite a handful even they though they are much smaller and weigh less than a large calf |
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Post by patman post on Jun 17, 2024 11:10:56 GMT
The event looks like a metaphor for many in today’s police forces — give them a uniform and the authority to use force and machismo takes over…
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 17, 2024 11:16:29 GMT
It appears that one Officer has been suspended which is probably the one that drove into more than once, as for calling a Vet as JoG suggested I would think most Vets in Towns probably only deal with small animals and may not posses a tranquilizer rifle which you need for much bigger animals. Red personally I would not like to try and wrestle with a 10 month old calf they are strong, I have been helping my brother in law with sheep, they are much easier to man handle but quite strong a Ram can be quite a handful even they though they are much smaller and weigh less than a large calf We often see cattle it's not unknown for one to get out of a field, people are used to seeing them and this is the problem I think, ignorance. My uncle & aunt were dairy farmers for fifty years I know cows can be stubborn, usually a slap on the animals flank is enough to get it moving in the desired direction. As I said, I think the massive overreaction in this case is due to ignorance. That calf posed no danger to anyone, all it needed was for someone (Who wasn't frightened of calves) to take charge, to drop a rope over the animals head and walk her away. If anyone had run into one of my uncles animals like that, copper or not my uncle or more likely my aunt would have ripped into them that's for sure. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 17, 2024 12:24:07 GMT
When I herd about this I knew it was bullshit. The officer was clearly on the horns of a dilemma, the media made up the story on the hoof and now everyone's milking it. Even the home secretary's beefing and he's not even got a steak in it. The cows injuries were just grazing, and let's face it: It curd have been whey worse.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 17, 2024 12:49:19 GMT
When I herd about this I knew it was bullshit. The officer was clearly on the horns of a dilemma, the media made up the story on the hoof and now everyone's milking it. Even the home secretary's beefing and he's not even got a steak in it. The cows injuries were just grazing, and let's face it: It curd have been whey worse. Lols very good. Just to add, GB News interviewed some chap in a field of cows earlier. He said all you need to do is rattle a few pebbles in a bucket and cows will follow you anywhere, my uncle & aunt used the more traditional bovine delicacy, 'cow nuts'. Perhaps coppers in Surrey should carry a stash in the boot.  |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 17, 2024 13:01:50 GMT
Tbf, the victim was brown.
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Post by wapentake on Jun 17, 2024 17:23:30 GMT
And the national farmers union who probably have a better handle on this than anyone else said this (It’s behind a paywall in the telegraph) So there we are those who know one end of a cow from another aren’t frothing at the mouth  |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 17, 2024 17:27:49 GMT
And the national farmers union who probably have a better handle on this than anyone else said this (It’s behind a paywall in the telegraph) So there we are those who know one end of a cow from another aren’t frothing at the mouth Indeed, as anyone with any sense (or who's read the full acount of the incident) already realises. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 17, 2024 18:19:25 GMT
And the national farmers union who probably have a better handle on this than anyone else said this (It’s behind a paywall in the telegraph) So there we are those who know one end of a cow from another aren’t frothing at the mouth Load of bollox. As any farmer will tell you, the last thing you do with any animal is to startle them with loud sirens or flashing lights, or indeed ram them with a bloody car. Cows, indeed calves are easy to control if you know what your doing. This copper who thought his only option was to drive onto a calf, twice, was obviously out of his depth. He'll probably make Sgt by the end of the year. |
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Post by wapentake on Jun 17, 2024 18:52:23 GMT
And the national farmers union who probably have a better handle on this than anyone else said this (It’s behind a paywall in the telegraph) So there we are those who know one end of a cow from another aren’t frothing at the mouth Load of bollox. As any farmer will tell you, the last thing you do with any animal is to startle them with loud sirens or flashing lights, or indeed ram them with a bloody car. Cows, indeed calves are easy to control if you know what your doing. This copper who thought his only option was to drive onto a calf, twice, was obviously out of his depth. He'll probably make Sgt by the end of the year. Well in this instance Red you are the expert in the field of talking bollocks,anyway a farmer who knows a lot more than you and all the others frothing at the mouth over this has more to say and John Simpson who points out the hypocrisy of those like yourself  More from a farmer and expert Regards that in bold there would be uproar on here from the same outraged posters if it had gone that way. |
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