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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 11, 2024 12:04:00 GMT
Do you think that the country is in a better state today than in 2010? Your usual leftie bollocks andrea yet again you neglect to mention Boris had to endure the wrath from your beloved EUSSR along with a global pandemic and Global energy crisis brought about by puins illegal invasion of the Ukraine. I'll interpret your non answer as worse now. I think most people would agree. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 11, 2024 12:08:03 GMT
Not sure what you're referring to as Labour hadn't been in power for nearly a decade when Boris won his election? Sold out to Brussels, FOM,PFI, flogging off UK gold well below the market value, illegal war, IOU left in the safe you lefties have had the list given to you endless times and still you post the same old usual bollocks. Sold out to Brussels, --- Stupid lie. FOM --- replaced by foreigners from all over the world. PFI --- destroyed by the "I F Meltdown". flogging off UK gold well below the market value. --- Cash from sales used for positive repairs (made necessary to repair damage caused by 18 years of Tory mismanagement) of the UK. Did not affect the UK economy unlike Thatcher's selloff of Oil, gas etc. that has cost the UK economy £billions of pounds since 1989, and is still robbing the UK economy now and into the future. Illegal war --- Liar. IOU --- caused the International Financial Meltdown. Proving that you still post the same old usual bollocks, you idiot. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 11, 2024 12:13:33 GMT
Given there's a huge divide within the party and that Beer Korma will be lucky to last 18 months. I suspect that given a majority beyond their wildest dreams the far left will be unable to resist going full retard. And without Beer Korma calling in the favours, I predict they'll become mired in corruption in short order and end their term as the most unpopular UK government of all time.
Indeed, I suspect that many of them will be lucky to avoid prison. Interesting times. It takes a long time . We all knew Blair was a liar from the start in 97, but it took a huge amount of time before the proles finally sussed him out. They kept the racket going via Brown as well. Once the proles figure out a party has screwed them though, it will take almost a generation for them to forget about it so that party gets back in power, as we see right now. Rishi has fucked things up so badly, with 2.5 million more mostly thirdworlders arriving on his watch having told us it would be tens of thousands per year that I'm now wondering if during Labour's time in office Reform will grow into the new opposition party and the Cons will be dead forever. The most likely move of Labour is to just give the whole backlog asylum and that would then cause things to reach crisis point. Can you imagine anyone thinking, oh if only we had Rishi back in power then the immigration problem would be so much less. I don't even believe the proles are that stupid. Reform will say we told you so. Prove that comment or apologise and remove it. And then remove the rest of your garbage post. Or just close your big dishonest trap. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 11, 2024 12:22:12 GMT
It takes a long time . We all knew Blair was a liar from the start in 97, but it took a huge amount of time before the proles finally sussed him out. They kept the racket going via Brown as well. Once the proles figure out a party has screwed them though, it will take almost a generation for them to forget about it so that party gets back in power, as we see right now. Rishi has fucked things up so badly, with 2.5 million more mostly thirdworlders arriving on his watch having told us it would be tens of thousands per year that I'm now wondering if during Labour's time in office Reform will grow into the new opposition party and the Cons will be dead forever. The most likely move of Labour is to just give the whole backlog asylum and that would then cause things to reach crisis point. Can you imagine anyone thinking, oh if only we had Rishi back in power then the immigration problem would be so much less. I don't even believe the proles are that stupid. Reform will say we told you so. Prove that comment or apologise and remove it. And then remove the rest of your garbage post. Or just close your big dishonest trap. I'm keeping it. If you recall he was just a very skilled wordsmith, as in a practised liar. They all sang things can only get better. We knew that was a lie. He proceeded to open us up to the third world. The huge rise in immigration under Labour was the reason Labour stayed out of power for so long. The We I refer to refers to all those who did not vote for him, which I believe would be the majority of this forum. Only the real dullards would have been taken in by his presentations. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 11, 2024 12:29:03 GMT
New Labour were in power for 13 years with their vote plummeting from 13,518,167 votes in 1997 to 10,724,953 in 2001 9,552,436 in 2005, 8,609,527 in 2010, bloody awful they were.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 11, 2024 13:05:10 GMT
Your usual leftie bollocks andrea yet again you neglect to mention Boris had to endure the wrath from your beloved EUSSR along with a global pandemic and Global energy crisis brought about by puins illegal invasion of the Ukraine. I'll interpret your non answer as worse now. I think most people would agree. Well of course it is andrea. I see yet again you fail to even mention the reasons why....If you think it will be any better under a labour infestation you need medical help |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 11, 2024 13:16:36 GMT
If Tory-Lite Starmer stays as leader just one.
The electorate are fed up of failed, and obviously so, neo-liberal economic policy.
If they get rid of Starmer as leader and actually put someone slightly left of centre in charge then 2 or 3.
Someone like Lisa Nandy who is "soft left".
Reeves is a Starmer-Blair-Tory-Lite clone and will soon fall out of favour if all she can offer the electorate is "more of the Tory same".
Angela Rayner is probably too far to the left, although she has huge support in the Party's grass-roots.
Andy Burnham is far enough left to be seen as a different offer to Starmer's "more of the same", but not too far left.
All The Best
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 11, 2024 13:17:50 GMT
New Labour were in power for 13 years with their vote plummeting from 13,518,167 votes in 1997 to 10,724,953 in 2001 9,552,436 in 2005, 8,609,527 in 2010, bloody awful they were. Yes and it was because Blair was so popular that they had such a large margin that it took so long to fall off so they could be thrown out. This could happen again. People will look at the Cons and say no bloody way do we want a Rishi II to fuck it up, even if Labour are doing the same themselves.
By the way, I just got this from a polling firm
It's the same old - go woke- go broke.
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 11, 2024 13:18:36 GMT
Sold out to Brussels, FOM,PFI, flogging off UK gold well below the market value, illegal war, IOU left in the safe you lefties have had the list given to you endless times and still you post the same old usual bollocks. Democratically? Yes, absolutely, we no longer have to ask for EU permission to do things. Economically? No, the Tories utterly screwed the pooch on Brexit by doing exactly what the EU does - putting ideology before practicality. All The Best |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 11, 2024 13:22:35 GMT
You are aware of what has just happened in europe? how many children and non citizen immigrants get a vote in Europe ? Labour have handed out the vote to children and immigrants who are not citizens in Wales, hoping the immature and the freeloader will vote for them. Scotland's SNP have done the same It is one of Starmer's key priorities I suspect I will die under a labour fiefdom. You'll never get the bastard's out while they hand the vote to them |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 11, 2024 13:40:46 GMT
We need the left to be the left and the right to be the right.
The Tories are not Tories and Labour are a pale imitation of what went before them.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 11, 2024 15:17:20 GMT
Well they'll use the first five years blaming every disasters on the Tory legacy.
Then the next five years (we know for a fact Starmer will not be leader then) by the end of the second term everyone will know it's actually Labour who are the disaster and they wont be able to get away with blaming the Tories, bit like groundhog day under the days of Blair/Brown, hence the reason they've been out of power for almost 14 years, and history will repeat itself.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 11, 2024 15:50:10 GMT
You are aware of what has just happened in europe? how many children and non citizen immigrants get a vote in Europe ? Labour have handed out the vote to children and immigrants who are not citizens in Wales, hoping the immature and the freeloader will vote for them. Scotland's SNP have done the same It is one of Starmer's key priorities I suspect I will die under a labour fiefdom. You'll never get the bastard's out while they hand the vote to them Starmer's wife is a Jew though and Corbyn was forced out to make way for Starmer via a highly dodgy organisation called Labour's Friend's of Israel. They proceeded to stitch up and smear Labour politicians so as to force Starmer into power. The Mussies are a bit put off by his Jewish allegiances. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 11, 2024 16:13:10 GMT
how many children and non citizen immigrants get a vote in Europe ? Labour have handed out the vote to children and immigrants who are not citizens in Wales, hoping the immature and the freeloader will vote for them. Scotland's SNP have done the same It is one of Starmer's key priorities I suspect I will die under a labour fiefdom. You'll never get the bastard's out while they hand the vote to them Starmer's wife is a Jew though and Corbyn was forced out to make way for Starmer via a highly dodgy organisation called Labour's Friend's of Israel. They proceeded to stitch up and smear Labour politicians so as to force Starmer into power. The Mussies are a bit put off by his Jewish allegiances. I’m well aware of Labour Friends of Israel but there is of course a similarly well funded lobby group called Conservative Friends of Israel and when Airbrushed Dave Pig Sticker Cameron announved his utter surprise at his Ashkenazi origins i thought ‘that’s strange he’s taken their money for long enough’ |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 11, 2024 16:15:10 GMT
Your usual leftie bollocks andrea yet again you neglect to mention Boris had to endure the wrath from your beloved EUSSR along with a global pandemic and Global energy crisis brought about by puins illegal invasion of the Ukraine. I'll interpret your non answer as worse now. I think most people would agree. But that's not down to the Tories per se.
Labour inherited a well functioning economy and royally fucked it. The Tories inherited the resultant mess and then had a global pandemic, war in Ukraine and a resultant energy crisis piled on top.
That we are not way worse off is something of a minor miracle, all things considered.
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