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Post by Bentley on Jun 10, 2024 13:53:53 GMT
Freedom of movement with the EU could benefit individuals and the UK economy, but it depends on what the terms are. Why would the EU want to allow UK workers unrestricted access to the EU to take jobs away from fully paid-up members' citizens...?Is that what happened last time ? |
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Post by patman post on Jun 10, 2024 14:17:38 GMT
Freedom of movement with the EU could benefit individuals and the UK economy, but it depends on what the terms are. Why would the EU want to allow UK workers unrestricted access to the EU to take jobs away from fully paid-up members' citizens...?Is that what happened last time ? Last time the UK was a member — admittedly latterly semi-detached — with higher-level production activities, and FOM was part of a total commitment from which the EU benefited overall.
The EU would probably need it spelled out what benefit it would get from and influx of disillusioned Brit economic migrants...?
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Post by Bentley on Jun 10, 2024 14:20:55 GMT
Is that what happened last time ? Last time the UK was a member — admittedly latterly semi-detached — with higher-level production activities, and FOM was part of a total commitment from which the EU benefited overall.
The EU would probably need it spelled out what benefit it would get from and influx of disillusioned Brit economic migrants...?
Nope. There was an explosion of EU migrants from Eastern Europe . An influx of disillusioned Brit migrants into the EU is a ex remainers wet dream . |
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Post by piglet on Jun 10, 2024 15:11:12 GMT
There is freedom of movement, after your passport has been checked, and your not illegal.
That was the whole point of leaving. It is of benefit to stop those we dont want from coming here.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 10, 2024 16:14:16 GMT
FOM without rejoining? Really ? If Rishi can set up his Young India Professionals Scheme which provides thousands of Indians free movement across the UK without even a peep of protest, why shouldn't Sir Keir be able to go ahead with a corresponding scheme for young Europeans? |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 10, 2024 16:20:54 GMT
FOM without rejoining? Really ? If Rishi can set up his Young India Professionals Scheme which provides thousands of Indians free movement across the UK without even a peep of protest, why shouldn't Sir Keir be able to go ahead with a corresponding scheme for young Europeans? I don’t know how many Indians will come to the UK but if it’s comparable to the hoards that come from Eastern Europe then neither should be adopted. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 10, 2024 16:56:53 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 10, 2024 17:15:08 GMT
LOLS, no kidding. In view of this revelation my dislike of your politcs has changed. I now sympathise with you.  |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 10, 2024 17:16:12 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 10, 2024 17:16:14 GMT
And yet the LibDems voted against the joining the Single Market during the brexit negotiations...  |
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Post by patman post on Jun 10, 2024 18:15:22 GMT
If Rishi can set up his Young India Professionals Scheme which provides thousands of Indians free movement across the UK without even a peep of protest, why shouldn't Sir Keir be able to go ahead with a corresponding scheme for young Europeans? I don’t know how many Indians will come to the UK but if it’s comparable to the hoards that come from Eastern Europe then neither should be adopted. I’ve worked in a couple of places where the IT dept was overwhelmingly Indian (with a few Australians). It seems like the education system in both places got the idea that information technology was the future, long before the UK — a bit like Ireland and languages… PS: Polish plumbers and Eastern European tradespeople were an enormous benefit to ordinary folk who didn’t want to get shafted by the builder cowboys that abounded around London and the Home Counties… |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 10, 2024 18:22:23 GMT
I don’t know how many Indians will come to the UK but if it’s comparable to the hoards that come from Eastern Europe then neither should be adopted. I’ve worked in a couple of places where the IT dept was overwhelmingly Indian (with a few Australians). It seems like the education system in both places got the idea that information technology was the future, long before the UK — a bit like Ireland and languages… Indeed. Dan posts about an Indian professional scheme whereas the influx of Eastern Europeans doing more menial work . Personally I would accept a huge influx of any foreigners who could do ex remainers jobs especially if they would do it for a lower Salary and ignore any health and safety rules . |
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Post by patman post on Jun 10, 2024 18:31:48 GMT
I’ve worked in a couple of places where the IT dept was overwhelmingly Indian (with a few Australians). It seems like the education system in both places got the idea that information technology was the future, long before the UK — a bit like Ireland and languages… Indeed. Dan posts about an Indian professional scheme whereas the influx of Eastern Europeans doing more menial work . Personally I would accept a huge influx of any foreigners who could do ex remainers jobs especially if they would do it for a lower Salary and ignore any health and safety rules . Isn’t that supposedly a bosses point of view, and a major reason promoted for leaving the EU…? |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 10, 2024 18:41:54 GMT
Indeed. Dan posts about an Indian professional scheme whereas the influx of Eastern Europeans doing more menial work . Personally I would accept a huge influx of any foreigners who could do ex remainers jobs especially if they would do it for a lower Salary and ignore any health and safety rules . Isn’t that supposedly a bosses point of view, and a major reason promoted for leaving the EU…? The point I’m making is that the people who wanted to remain were ( in general) not the people who were affected negatively by freedom of movement and I hope that any influx of foreigners affects them ( remainers )as such . |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 10, 2024 21:34:04 GMT
I don’t know how many Indians will come to the UK but if it’s comparable to the hoards that come from Eastern Europe then neither should be adopted. I’ve worked in a couple of places where the IT dept was overwhelmingly Indian (with a few Australians). It seems like the education system in both places got the idea that information technology was the future, long before the UK — a bit like Ireland and languages… PS: Polish plumbers and Eastern European tradespeople were an enormous benefit to ordinary folk who didn’t want to get shafted by the builder cowboys that abounded around London and the Home Counties… Indeed - the middle classes loved FoM as it gave them cheap builders and cut price nanny's. If you were working class of course who saw your wages fall then you may have a different opinion. |
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