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Post by Dogburger on Jun 8, 2024 14:41:47 GMT
Well whatever Sunak sees himself as or whatever anyone on here sees him as ethnic or nationality wise he is The Prime Minister of the United Kingdoms . As that he represents the people of the United Kingdom and should have been representing us for the full day during the D-day events .
Other world leaders saw the importance of that and attended for the full day but for some reason Sunak didn't get the memo . That he didn't see the importance of the day DOES reflect on his heritage ,his ethnicity . Its why we shouldn't have ethnic minorities representing us on the world stage simply because while they may mean well they will always be looking over their shoulder to make sure their people are also OK with it .
And thats not good enough and will never be good enough for me . I hope he is the last ethnic to serve as our prime minister for a very long time , its not as if anyone even voted for him
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 8, 2024 14:46:07 GMT
To a degree I am going to defend Rishi Sunak here I do not believe for one moment that his blunder had anything to do with either his Indian heritage or the fact that he is Hindu, and I think its wrong to bring this dimension into the argument. India, and the Indian people are uncomfortable about the role they played in two world wars, mainly because they find it hard to accept the fact that in both wars, the Indian Army made valuable contributions to the allied war effort - fighting for their Imperial masters. He did make a mistake, but ethnicity or faith has nothing to do with it. Yes and no. I suspect that had he been an ethic Brit with family ties to those who served in the war in Europe then he would have understood the significance of being there longer and how upset the veterans would feel by his absence …but he isn’t and he didn’t. He is surrounded by by ethnic Brits who presumably signed off on his decision or didn't raise objections and one or two who have come out to defend or play down his actions. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 8, 2024 14:48:31 GMT
Well whatever Sunak sees himself as or whatever anyone on here sees him as ethnic or nationality wise he is The Prime Minister of the United Kingdoms . As that he represents the people of the United Kingdom and should have been representing us for the full day during the D-day events . Other world leaders saw the importance of that and attended for the full day but for some reason Sunak didn't get the memo . That he didn't see the importance of the day DOES reflect on his heritage ,his ethnicity . Its why we shouldn't have ethnic minorities representing us on the world stage simply because while they may mean well they will always be looking over their shoulder to make sure their people are also OK with it . And thats not good enough and will never be good enough for me . I hope he is the last ethnic to serve as our prime minister for a very long time , its not as if anyone even voted for him It has nothing to do with Sunak or his colour or religion like the lefties try to make out, two of the most capable right-wing Tories is Suella Braverman and Kemi Badenoch so far talk the most sense in the Tories, and both of them call out lefties who are forever playing the racist card. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 8, 2024 14:52:28 GMT
Yes and no. I suspect that had he been an ethic Brit with family ties to those who served in the war in Europe then he would have understood the significance of being there longer and how upset the veterans would feel by his absence …but he isn’t and he didn’t. He is surrounded by by ethnic Brits who presumably signed off on his decision or didn't raise objections and one or two who have come out to defend or play down his actions. So he’s decision is not his fault . Is it because he’s brown ? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 8, 2024 14:58:25 GMT
Yes and no. I suspect that had he been an ethic Brit with family ties to those who served in the war in Europe then he would have understood the significance of being there longer and how upset the veterans would feel by his absence …but he isn’t and he didn’t. He is surrounded by by ethnic Brits who presumably signed off on his decision or didn't raise objections and one or two who have come out to defend or play down his actions. We all remember Corbyn refusing to bow at the Cenotaph, and Starmer wasn't much better, at least Sunak made the effort for a respectful bow. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 8, 2024 15:17:59 GMT
Seems strange that this thread quickly turned into a discussion of ethnicity, with little comment on the stupid and insulting and disrespectful decision by Sunak to skip part of the D-Day commemorations for a TV interview. What appears to make it worse is that the TV date had been set some time before, so this wasn't a sudden mistake, but he'd obviously not planned to attend the full session. Why didn't Sunak's advisers or Lord Cameron set him straight — or did he want to be the UK rep with all the other dignitaries...? I've heard speculation that he deliberately chose not to be photographed with European leaders as it was thought this sort of snub would play well with the Tory base. But yes, the mind boggles as to who is advising Sunak.Who gives a shit? I wonder who is advising starmer not to go on TV? |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 8, 2024 15:19:47 GMT
He is surrounded by by ethnic Brits who presumably signed off on his decision or didn't raise objections and one or two who have come out to defend or play down his actions. So he’s decision is not his fault . Is it because he’s brown ? No, that's not what I said. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 8, 2024 15:40:31 GMT
So he’s decision is not his fault . Is it because he’s brown ? No, that's not what I said. Didn’t you try to lay some of the blame in others ? It looked like it.. |
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Post by aristaeus on Jun 8, 2024 16:31:10 GMT
Saying Sunak is a foreigner because he is not white is patently racist. Good because no one did . Fairsociety said he was a foreigner because of his Indian heritage despite him being born and raised in the UK. |
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Post by aristaeus on Jun 8, 2024 16:36:50 GMT
Saying Sunak is a foreigner because he is not white is patently racist. Listen most of us know that when you get a 'foreigner' to do a job for you it has fuck all to do with their colour, calling someone a foreigner has fuck all to do with their colour or being a racist .... stop trying to make something out of nothing ... you're on a non-starter Calling someone born and raised in the UK a foreigner because of their ethnic heritage is racist. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 8, 2024 16:37:17 GMT
Good because no one did . Fairsociety said he was a foreigner because of his Indian heritage despite him being born and raised in the UK. Get your facts straight.
I absolutely did say Sunak was a foreigner .... only based on his parental birth certificate, nothing can change or alter that, because he was 'born and raised in the UK' ....does not alter the fact he is not a native English subject.
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Post by aristaeus on Jun 8, 2024 16:41:57 GMT
Fairsociety said he was a foreigner because of his Indian heritage despite him being born and raised in the UK. Get your facts straight.
I absolutely did say Sunak was a foreigner .... only based on his parental birth certificate, nothing can change or alter that, because he was 'born and raised in the UK' ....does not alter the fact he is not a native English subject.
Sunak was born in the UK and is a UK citizen. He is by definition not a foreigner. foreigner; noun. A person who comes from another country. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 8, 2024 16:45:31 GMT
Get your facts straight.
I absolutely did say Sunak was a foreigner .... only based on his parental birth certificate, nothing can change or alter that, because he was 'born and raised in the UK' ....does not alter the fact he is not a native English subject.
Sunak was born in the UK and is a UK citizen. He is by definition not a foreigner. foreigner; noun. A person who comes from another country. Sunak by definition
** NATIVE The word native has to do with where you're from. You're native to the country where you were born, and places have native plants and animals too. Things that are native are indigenous — they were born there. This is where the term Native Americans comes from — they were on this land before Europeans came over.
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 8, 2024 16:49:47 GMT
Good because no one did . Fairsociety said he was a foreigner because of his Indian heritage despite him being born and raised in the UK. He was born in Southampton - last time I looked it was still an English city |
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Post by aristaeus on Jun 8, 2024 17:06:23 GMT
Sunak was born in the UK and is a UK citizen. He is by definition not a foreigner. foreigner; noun. A person who comes from another country. Sunak by definition
** NATIVE The word native has to do with where you're from. You're native to the country where you were born, and places have native plants and animals too. Things that are native are indigenous — they were born there. This is where the term Native Americans comes from — they were on this land before Europeans came over.
BIB. Sunak was born in the UK, so he's native and a British citizen, so not a foreigner. |
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