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Post by see2 on Jun 9, 2024 18:06:28 GMT
Gender is all part of the problem. If your physical male self is is interfered with by female inclusion in your physical make up, then describing ones gender becomes a problem. Then you describe it as it is . Then it becomes true . Assuming you know how it is, that is. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 9, 2024 18:08:15 GMT
Then you describe it as it is . Then it becomes true . Assuming you know how it is, that is. Well if you don’t know WHAT it is then you can’t define it . |
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Post by see2 on Jun 9, 2024 18:13:47 GMT
Don't be silly, I have never advocated such nonsense. So you agree that a biological male cannot be defined as a woman ? NO. You have to be able to think beyond the superficial. I have posted that because no one knows the extent to which the mixing of the sexes takes place, then it is guesswork to define the situation that every male or female who believes they are in the wrong body, is spouting nonsense. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 9, 2024 18:14:31 GMT
Assuming you know how it is, that is. Well if you don’t know WHAT it is then you can’t define it . Exactly. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 9, 2024 18:23:46 GMT
So you agree that a biological male cannot be defined as a woman ? NO. You have to be able to think beyond the superficial. I have posted that because no one knows the extent to which the mixing of the sexes takes place, then it is guesswork to define the situation that every male or female who believes they are in the wrong body, is spouting nonsense. Then you are advocating such nonsense . You are using the extreme cases to normalise a delusion and at the same time trying to look wise and knowledgeable . You’re not . |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 9, 2024 18:24:46 GMT
Well if you don’t know WHAT it is then you can’t define it . Exactly. Then you don’t try to define it do you ?…ffs . This is like herding cats . |
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Post by see2 on Jun 9, 2024 18:35:03 GMT
NO. You have to be able to think beyond the superficial. I have posted that because no one knows the extent to which the mixing of the sexes takes place, then it is guesswork to define the situation that every male or female who believes they are in the wrong body, is spouting nonsense. Then you are advocating such nonsense . You are using the extreme cases to normalise a delusion and at the same time trying to look wise and knowledgeable . You’re not . As I posted you have to be able to think beyond the superficial, and in this case you appear to be unable to do that. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 9, 2024 18:36:39 GMT
Then you don’t try to define it do you ?…ffs . This is like herding cats . You have got yourself into a right old tizzy all going on in your own mind. BYE. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 9, 2024 18:56:16 GMT
Then you are advocating such nonsense . You are using the extreme cases to normalise a delusion and at the same time trying to look wise and knowledgeable . You’re not . As I posted you have to be able to think beyond the superficial, and in this case you appear to be unable to do that. You have to think beyond your self aggrandising bullshit and in this case , as in most, you appear to be unable to do that . |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 9, 2024 18:57:08 GMT
Then you don’t try to define it do you ?…ffs . This is like herding cats . You have got yourself into a right old tizzy all going on in your own mind. BYE. Translation …You’ve been caught out posting bullshit |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 9, 2024 21:31:38 GMT
You are describing biology - we are talking about gender. Gender is all part of the problem. If your physical male self is is interfered with by female inclusion in your physical make up, then describing ones gender becomes a problem. No - gender is a choice. Biological sex is what you are born with. Who has the problem? |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 9, 2024 22:06:50 GMT
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Post by see2 on Jun 10, 2024 7:56:05 GMT
Gender is all part of the problem. If your physical male self is is interfered with by female inclusion in your physical make up, then describing ones gender becomes a problem. No - gender is a choice. Biological sex is what you are born with. Who has the problem? Gender choice might be correct even if it does appear to be in conflict with ones biological makeup. That is the very essence of the problem. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 10, 2024 8:07:37 GMT
Well, that and the rather more common mental health.
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Post by see2 on Jun 10, 2024 8:38:48 GMT
But the question was about Ed Davey's statement that some women can have a penis... No it wasn't, you pulled that out of your arse. What see2 is describing is a genetic malfunction whereby a person may exhibit primary sexual characteristics of both sexes, of the opposite sex or of neither. That's a genuine and rare medical condition and not the same thing as transgenderism, however disingenuously you attempt to conflate the two. The point I am making is that human procreation is far from perfect, and so far it appears to be the case that no one has fully mapped the extent of the sex mix in humans. Here is an example of the mix: "Does progesterone affect the male fetus? The present data indicate that exposure of the male fetus in utero to pharmacological concentrations of natural progesterone is able to reduce masculine copulatory behavior of the male progeny." |
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