Farage to stand for parliament

Look, I get it.

You don't like Farage in Parliament.

And you don't like the UK out of the EU.

I'm still undecided whether you like democracy or not.

However, you've not long made a post about how there was no democratic accountability in the EU. Now you're making excuses of why we should place our sovereignty in the hands of the EU because there is a "minimal degree of democratic accountability".

You're all over the place. 

The ''public'' and the ''electorate'' are different concepts , the former includes those who are not eligible to vote in a general election eg most prisoners , Peers, most foreign born residents, children , the insane etc .
Thus only some of the public are eligible to be entered onto the electoral roll and of that fraction , some voted for labour  and elected a labour mp in their area , most of the electorate did not

Problem is, those are you words not mine. And you entered this debate discussing Farage so you clearly do give a fuck.


And what you regard as a competent deal; some may regard as incompetent. Opinions. Democracy. 



Well you won't get that shackled to the EU, but I could imagine how you'd react to a party like Reform getting its way with direct democracy. You'd just berate Reform voters still the same. See where this is going?

Yes, I remember that's where Farage was a fox in the henhouse. 
 
And the same thing doesn't happen in the EU does it. You are aware of the lobbyists over there, right?



Wrong. National sovereignty acted as a hurdle to the desire of the EU's economic, political and social hegemony. 


You are making baseless assumptions all from me calling Nigel a fox. You've gone way out on a limb there like you have done throughout. 


You have an issue with democracy full stop. You've shown us this with you gambit about the monarchy.

It seems, YOU only want a democracy that suits YOU. And if anyone votes for people or parties you don't like you make insinuations and generalisations about them.

That's my take from your chip on the shoulder rants. 

But when granted an opportunity to reject the broken FPTP system the Public CHOSE to retain FPTP.
Therefore the Public not only chose the system of election, they ELECTED Labour using that system.

Ergo, you are demonstrably wrong.

NOTE: I say that as someone who has long advocated PR rather than FPTP, in fact I was saying that back in the 90's, long before the 2011 referendum.

All The Best

Nope, sorry Nulla. Try this post from Vinny.


Not to mention the many, many people who've seen their wages rise.

If Brexit has failed to deliver as promised it's because it still hasn't been fully implemented.

But then what else did we expect with Remainers in charge of Brexit.

I think more and more people are realising that the Labour Party's lack of mandate is unsustainable in the long term so it would be instructive to have a referendum on PR just to see how many people would actually prefer to change the system.