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Post by Bentley on Jul 6, 2024 13:11:54 GMT
Funny that “Essex Police have said no criminal offences were committed by the Reform UK activists who were filmed making offensive and racists comments in a Channel 4 documentary. The footage included party canvasser Andrew Parker using a racial slur to describe Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and another activist George Jones describing the Pride flag as "degenerate". Responding to the broadcast of the Channel 4 programme, Essex Police said it was "urgently assessing" the comments. But, in a statement on Wednesday, Essex Police said it found "no criminal offences" have taken place.” www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1vd3wpg1d4o |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 6, 2024 15:36:03 GMT
Labour supported pretty much everything the Tories wanted to do; and would likely have done similar - as most of the world was doing. Of course Labour might not have pissed quite so much away on dodgy PPE contracts for their mates. All The Best Starmer criticised Boris for not locking down sooner, not locking down harder, and not locking down for longer. I say again, thank god Labour were not in charge for that. You mean like New Zealand? Widely considered to be the best response to Covid by a Western Democracy. Yeah, that would have saved lives. All The Best |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 6, 2024 15:37:27 GMT
Starmer criticised Boris for not locking down sooner, not locking down harder, and not locking down for longer. I say again, thank god Labour were not in charge for that. You mean like New Zealand? Widely considered to be the best response to Covid by a Western Democracy. Yeah, that would have saved lives. All The Best What has NZ got to do with the UK?.. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 6, 2024 15:41:54 GMT
Reform have broken the Westminster bubble. Some Tories are talking about returning to the political centre, I voted Tory this time yet if Labour do not stop the boats and sort out immigration and the Tory party tries to reposition themselves in the middle then I will vote Reform. So for FOURTEEN years the Tories have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Immigration. But you voted for them anyway. And if Labour don't fix a problem that is at least 14 years in the making in just one term you'll vote for yet another party that will do nothing about Immigration. My uncle was right: Reform depend almost entirely on people that are clearly too stupid to have a vote having one. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 6, 2024 15:42:33 GMT
You mean like New Zealand? Widely considered to be the best response to Covid by a Western Democracy. Yeah, that would have saved lives. All The Best What has NZ got to do with the UK?.. FFS: Locked down sooner, harder, longer. All The Best |
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Post by sheepy on Jul 6, 2024 15:44:02 GMT
Reform have broken the Westminster bubble. Some Tories are talking about returning to the political centre, I voted Tory this time yet if Labour do not stop the boats and sort out immigration and the Tory party tries to reposition themselves in the middle then I will vote Reform. So for FOURTEEN years the Tories have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Immigration. But you voted for them anyway. And if Labour don't fix a problem that is at least 14 years in the making in just one term you'll vote for yet another party that will do nothing about Immigration. My uncle was right: Reform depend almost entirely on people that are clearly too stupid to have a vote having one. All The Best Thats not true, they made it much worse. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 6, 2024 15:44:05 GMT
What has NZ got to do with the UK?.. FFS: Locked down sooner, harder, longer. All The Best I say again, what has NZ got to to with the UK?.. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 6, 2024 15:44:23 GMT
Reform have broken the Westminster bubble. Some Tories are talking about returning to the political centre, I voted Tory this time yet if Labour do not stop the boats and sort out immigration and the Tory party tries to reposition themselves in the middle then I will vote Reform. So for FOURTEEN years the Tories have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Immigration. But you voted for them anyway. And if Labour don't fix a problem that is at least 14 years in the making in just one term you'll vote for yet another party that will do nothing about Immigration. My uncle was right: Reform depend almost entirely on people that are clearly too stupid to have a vote having one. All The Best Every time the Tories tried to fix immigration they had the door slammed in their face by the lefty liberals.
It will be interesting to see if those same doors will be slammed in Starmers face when and if he comes up with a plan to fix immigration.
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Post by sheepy on Jul 6, 2024 15:46:04 GMT
So for FOURTEEN years the Tories have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Immigration. But you voted for them anyway. And if Labour don't fix a problem that is at least 14 years in the making in just one term you'll vote for yet another party that will do nothing about Immigration. My uncle was right: Reform depend almost entirely on people that are clearly too stupid to have a vote having one. All The Best Every time the Tories tried to fix immigration they had the door slammed in their face by the lefty liberals.
It will be interesting to see if those same doors will be slammed in Starmers face when and if he comes up with a plan to fix immigration.
Which is also a blatant lie, they were given a huge majority by actually people voting for them not a pretend one like new labour. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 6, 2024 15:51:49 GMT
Reform have broken the Westminster bubble. Some Tories are talking about returning to the political centre, I voted Tory this time yet if Labour do not stop the boats and sort out immigration and the Tory party tries to reposition themselves in the middle then I will vote Reform. So for FOURTEEN years the Tories have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Immigration. But you voted for them anyway. And if Labour don't fix a problem that is at least 14 years in the making in just one term you'll vote for yet another party that will do nothing about Immigration. My uncle was right: Reform depend almost entirely on people that are clearly too stupid to have a vote having one. All The Best The Tories have not been in power for 14 years. We have had Tory governments from 2015. But I agree, when it comes to immigration the Tories have been hopeless and that's because every prime minister [Excluding Truss] since Brexit, has been quietly pro EU. However, as bad as the Tories undoubtedly were, you aint seen nothing yet. Labour are making absolutely no secret of the fact that illegals are welcome and immigration will rocket over the next few years which will be a huge boost for Reform UK. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 6, 2024 15:54:37 GMT
Every time the Tories tried to fix immigration they had the door slammed in their face by the lefty liberals.
It will be interesting to see if those same doors will be slammed in Starmers face when and if he comes up with a plan to fix immigration.
Which is also a blatant lie, they were given a huge majority by actually people voting for them not a pretend one like new labour. It doesn't matter what their majority was, they have to follow the letter of the lefty law. |
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Post by sheepy on Jul 6, 2024 15:59:52 GMT
Which is also a blatant lie, they were given a huge majority by actually people voting for them not a pretend one like new labour. It doesn't matter what their majority was, they have to follow the letter of the lefty law. You do know why they are called lawmakers don't you? Also they didn't have to follow EU law they could have removed every single one of them from the statute books. But they didn't, because they knew it would give them a free hand, I am not falling for any of their bullshit either. |
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 6, 2024 16:09:52 GMT
FFS: Locked down sooner, harder, longer. All The Best I say again, what has NZ got to to with the UK?.. Sweden was just about the only country that got it right - no lockdown NZ PM resigned when things were about to get very ugly after her covid dictatorship effectively locking about a million new zealanders out of their own country Her time in office, however, was mostly shaped by crisis management, including the 2019 terrorist attack in Christchurch, the deadly White Island volcanic eruption a few months later and Covid-19 soon after that.The pandemic in particular seemed to play to her strengths as a clear and unifying communicator — until extended lockdowns and vaccine mandates hurt the economy, fueled conspiracy theories and spurred a backlash. In a part of the world where Covid restrictions lingered, Ms. Ardern has struggled to get beyond her association with pandemic policy.
The country’s initial goal was audacious: Ms. Ardern and a handful of prominent epidemiologists who were advising the government held out hope for eliminating the virus and keeping it entirely out of New Zealand. In early 2020, she helped coax the country — “our team of five million,” she said — to go along with shuttered international borders and a lockdown so severe that even retrieving a lost cricket ball from a neighbor’s yard was banned.
When new, more transmissible variants made that impossible, Ms. Ardern’s team pivoted but struggled to get vaccines quickly. Strict vaccination mandates then kept people from activities like work, eating out and getting haircuts.Dr. Simon Thornley, an epidemiologist at the University of Auckland and a frequent and controversial critic of the government’s Covid response, said many New Zealanders were surprised by what they saw as her willingness to pit the vaccinated against the unvaccinated.
“The disillusionment around the vaccine mandates was important,” Dr. Thornley said. “The creation of a two-class society and that predictions didn’t come out as they were meant to be, or as they were forecast to be in terms of elimination
www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/world/asia/jacinda-ardern-resigns-covid.html
www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/long-reads/new-zealand-covid-borders-locked-b1923258.html
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 6, 2024 16:11:13 GMT
FFS: Locked down sooner, harder, longer. All The Best I say again, what has NZ got to to with the UK?.. You slagged Starmer off for him wanting Johnson to lockdown sooner, harder, longer (which is what NZ did). Had Johnson done so he would have saved more lives. What you are complaining about is: Starmer complaining about Johnson killing too many people. Can you hold two different thoughts in you tiny mind at the same time? The evidence of this thread suggest not. Joined up thinking is apparently beyond you. All The Best |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 6, 2024 16:18:12 GMT
Starmer criticised Boris for not locking down sooner, not locking down harder, and not locking down for longer. I say again, thank god Labour were not in charge for that. You mean like New Zealand? Widely considered to be the best response to Covid by a Western Democracy. Yeah, that would have saved lives. All The Best
The lock down was a huge over reaction to a relatively minor illness.
And what New Zealand did is neither here nor there. New Zealand is a place where almost no one lives and almost no one visits. They could lock down with relatively little cost by comparison to the disastrous economic consequences that we've experienced.
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