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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 27, 2022 11:04:53 GMT
Yes it is one of the most tolerant countries in the world and we have gained that position through accepting the results of reports like this and acting to improve things in the future. Running around shouting ''WOKE NONSENSE'' and ''IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT MOVE TO SAUDI ARABIA'' advances nothing. I admire the Saudis they honour their religion, and punish any one who disrespect it, if only every faith and country had the same stance, Christianity in this country is almost a racist comment, we've taken one step forward and two steps back. Your newly acquired respect for Islam is a marvel to behold. Allahu akbar.
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 27, 2022 11:08:14 GMT
I admire the Saudis they honour their religion, and punish any one who disrespect it, if only every faith and country had the same stance, Christianity in this country is almost a racist comment, we've taken one step forward and two steps back. Your newly acquired respect for Islam is a beauty to behold. Inshallah. Excuse me?
Where have I posted anything derogatory about the Islamic faith?
Please do not make things up to get a point across.
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 27, 2022 11:10:09 GMT
Your newly acquired respect for Islam is a beauty to behold. Inshallah. Excuse me?
Where have I posted anything derogatory about the Islamic faith?
Please do not make things up to get a point across.
I'm guessing in every terrorism thread but if I'm wrong I apologise.
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 27, 2022 11:12:41 GMT
Excuse me?
Where have I posted anything derogatory about the Islamic faith?
Please do not make things up to get a point across.
I'm guessing in every terrorism thread but if I'm wrong I apologise. What terrorism threads?
I think you are getting me mixed up, I don't post on terrorist threads, and I do not disrespect other religions, I suggest you put up evidence first before you start accusing posters, otherwise you end up having to apologise.
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 27, 2022 11:16:25 GMT
I'm guessing in every terrorism thread but if I'm wrong I apologise. What terrorism threads?
I think you are getting me mixed up, I don't post on terrorist threads, and I do not disrespect other religions, I suggest you put up evidence first before you start accusing posters, otherwise you end up having to apologise.
Then you have my unreserved apology.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 27, 2022 11:20:25 GMT
I have recently rejoined a public service. As such, this week I had to retake the mandatory first aid at work training.
One of the class was “Triggered” by one of the training scenarios and had to step out of the room.
That person should be sacked. If they can't deal with a training scenario there is no hope that they can deal with the real thing. That person will be a liability.
Now imagine such a person in an emergency service – they would be a danger to themselves and their colleagues. They would be deeply unpopular.
That person is a black female. The fact that she is unsuited to the job will therefore be glossed over and she will undoubtedly pass the course.
A few years down the line she will inevitably screw up. That will be glossed over but eventually she'll keep doing it until she faces disciplinary proceedings, resigns or gets sacked. I've seen it, time and again.
She will then claim that the organisation is racist/sexist/misogynistic (or insert other buzz-word here) and she will probably even believe it. That's the legacy of thirty odd years of “Inclusivity” and (often unofficial) positive discrimination inviting people into jobs for which they are totally unsuited.
And I wonder just how many of those are included in the Fire Brigade survey.
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 27, 2022 11:25:55 GMT
I have recently rejoined a public service. As such, this week I had to retake the mandatory first aid at work training. One of the class was “Triggered” by one of the training scenarios and had to step out of the room. That person should be sacked. If they can't deal with a training scenario there is no hope that they can deal with the real thing. That person will be a liability. Now imagine such a person in an emergency service – they would be a danger to themselves and their colleagues. They would be deeply unpopular. That person is a black female. The fact that she is unsuited to the job will therefore be glossed over and she will undoubtedly pass the course. A few years down the line she will inevitably screw up. That will be glossed over but eventually she'll keep doing it until she faces disciplinary proceedings, resigns or gets sacked. I've seen it, time and again. She will then claim that the organisation is racist/sexist/misogynistic (or insert other buzz-word here) and she will probably even believe it. That's the legacy of thirty odd years of “Inclusivity” and (often unofficial) positive discrimination inviting people into jobs for which they are totally unsuited. And I wonder just how many of those are included in the Fire Brigade survey. Does the sand get in your eyes when you stick your head in it? Is that why you are blind to discrimination when it is exposed?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 27, 2022 11:29:36 GMT
I have recently rejoined a public service. As such, this week I had to retake the mandatory first aid at work training. One of the class was “Triggered” by one of the training scenarios and had to step out of the room. That person should be sacked. If they can't deal with a training scenario there is no hope that they can deal with the real thing. That person will be a liability. Now imagine such a person in an emergency service – they would be a danger to themselves and their colleagues. They would be deeply unpopular. That person is a black female. The fact that she is unsuited to the job will therefore be glossed over and she will undoubtedly pass the course. A few years down the line she will inevitably screw up. That will be glossed over but eventually she'll keep doing it until she faces disciplinary proceedings, resigns or gets sacked. I've seen it, time and again. She will then claim that the organisation is racist/sexist/misogynistic (or insert other buzz-word here) and she will probably even believe it. That's the legacy of thirty odd years of “Inclusivity” and (often unofficial) positive discrimination inviting people into jobs for which they are totally unsuited. And I wonder just how many of those are included in the Fire Brigade survey. Does the sand get in your eyes when you stick your head in it? Is that why you are blind to discrimination when it is exposed? But what's been exposed exactly?
Proof or simply allegations from incompetent/disgruntled staff?
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 27, 2022 11:31:22 GMT
Yes itdo is one of the most tolerant countries in the world and we have gained that position through accepting the results of reports like this and acting to improve things in the future. Running around shouting ''WOKE NONSENSE'' and ''IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT MOVE TO SAUDI ARABIA'' advances nothing. I admire the Saudis they honour their religion, and punish any one who disrespect it, if only every faith and country had the same stance, Christianity in this country is almost a racist comment, we've taken one step forward and two steps back. You admire the saudi punnishment what like public excutions in stadiums by choping there heads off. Do you also Admire isis choping peoples heads of has punishment? Your obviously a danger to the securty to this country maybe you should be shiould be inprisoned deported
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Post by dappy on Nov 27, 2022 11:36:42 GMT
Sadly there are those who are quite comfortable with an environment where the majority are white men and they routinely abuse women, black people, gay people under the guise of banter and are outraged at any suggestion that this is not OK any more as “it is obvious they didn’t mean any harm”. Anyone who is the repeated victim of such banter and doesn’t find it funny is a snowflake spoiling it for all the others. The dinosaurs are gradually dying out but if we can expedite that we should. I think it is indeed fair to say Britain is less racist misogynistic etc than many other countries. Good. That doesn’t seem a good reason to tolerate the pockets of such behaviour that still sadly exist.
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 27, 2022 11:36:52 GMT
I admire the Saudis they honour their religion, and punish any one who disrespect it, if only every faith and country had the same stance, Christianity in this country is almost a racist comment, we've taken one step forward and two steps back. You admire the saudi punnishment what like public excutions in stadiums by choping there heads off. Do you also Admire isis choping peoples heads of has punishment? Your obviously a danger to the securty to this country maybe you should be shipped out or deported It is their religion not mine, if people do not want to live under their regime or rules or religion then they leave, the UK can take them as refugees if they can provide evidence their lives are risk if they return to the country.
How Saudi deals with its law breakers is out of my control, most people in this country who break the law are given a pat on the back, and a 'please don't do that again', and you can clearly see the results of that stance.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 27, 2022 11:43:42 GMT
You admire the saudi punnishment what like public excutions in stadiums by choping there heads off. Do you also Admire isis choping peoples heads of has punishment? Your obviously a danger to the securty to this country maybe you should be shipped out or deported It is their religion not mine, if people do not want to live under their regime or rules or religion then they leave, the UK can take them as refugees if they can provide evidence their lives are risk if they return to the country.
How Saudi deals with its law breakers is out of my control, most people in this country who break the law are given a pat on the back, and a 'please don't do that again', and you can clearly see the results of that stance.
The death penalty dosent repell murder its been proven in the USA
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 27, 2022 11:58:46 GMT
You admire the saudi punnishment what like public excutions in stadiums by choping there heads off. Do you also Admire isis choping peoples heads of has punishment? Your obviously a danger to the securty to this country maybe you should be shipped out or deported It is their religion not mine, if people do not want to live under their regime or rules or religion then they leave, the UK can take them as refugees if they can provide evidence their lives are risk if they return to the country.
How Saudi deals with its law breakers is out of my control, most people in this country who break the law are given a pat on the back, and a 'please don't do that again', and you can clearly see the results of that stance.
You have quite clearly stated in other threads that you don't want asylum seekers entering the country illegally. I'll ask you the same question that Suella Braverman was asked by the home office committee this week. If I am suffering persecution in a country (such as Saudi Arabia), what legal channel is available for me to seek asylum in the UK?
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 27, 2022 12:54:03 GMT
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 27, 2022 12:57:27 GMT
I don't want to go to Heaven, especially if there are remainers or illiterates there. All the more communion wafers for us.
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