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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 3, 2024 13:11:52 GMT
...I gave the Tories the benefit of the doubt at the last election, not doing that twice. Well quite. Repeating the same act and expecting a different result is madness. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 3, 2024 13:15:50 GMT
It is being rumoured that Sunak is ensuring that all prospective new Conservative candidates are being thoroughly vetted to ensure diversity, equality and full woke compliance, any proper Tory ( Lord Frost for example) is being stopped from standing. So it looks like the 60 or so Conservative MPs after the election will be carefully selected to be absolutely useless, so I doubt that they will come back stronger, there will not be any opposition at all, those that might have made a difference such as Kemi Badenoch, Penny Mordant and Sir Jacob Rees Mogg are all due to lose their seats. The only opposition will be Reform, if Farage does stand and replaces Tice as leader I will vote Reform, not sure what I'll do if he doesn't, I gave the Tories the benefit of the doubt at the last election, not doing that twice. Johnson was leader at the last GE, him not being leader is where it went downhill from there. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 3, 2024 13:28:38 GMT
It is being rumoured that Sunak is ensuring that all prospective new Conservative candidates are being thoroughly vetted to ensure diversity, equality and full woke compliance, any proper Tory ( Lord Frost for example) is being stopped from standing. So it looks like the 60 or so Conservative MPs after the election will be carefully selected to be absolutely useless, so I doubt that they will come back stronger, there will not be any opposition at all, those that might have made a difference such as Kemi Badenoch, Penny Mordant and Sir Jacob Rees Mogg are all due to lose their seats. The only opposition will be Reform, if Farage does stand and replaces Tice as leader I will vote Reform, not sure what I'll do if he doesn't, I gave the Tories the benefit of the doubt at the last election, not doing that twice. Johnson was leader at the last GE, him not being leader is where it went downhill from there. So you don't think it went down under him? Interesting. Polling tells a different story. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 3, 2024 13:29:55 GMT
Johnson was leader at the last GE, him not being leader is where it went downhill from there. So you don't think it went down under him? Interesting. Polling tells a different story. The only polls that matter tell a different story. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2024 13:30:37 GMT
Johnson was leader at the last GE, him not being leader is where it went downhill from there. So you don't think it went down under him? Interesting. Polling tells a different story. Bollocks. Rishy fishy is shitting himself over a Boris comeback. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2024 13:32:03 GMT
So you don't think it went down under him? Interesting. Polling tells a different story. The only polls that matter tell a different story. Andrea hasn't been correct about anything since we left his beloved EUSSR. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 3, 2024 13:35:22 GMT
Johnson was leader at the last GE, him not being leader is where it went downhill from there. So you don't think it went down under him? Interesting. Polling tells a different story. Here's a clue, Johnson had a landslide 'victory' at the last GE
This time round under Sunak they are about to face annihilation, work it out Einstein.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 3, 2024 13:45:29 GMT
Why do people believe that a normal or natural Conservative Party would resemble something along the lines of UKIP, Reform UK or the kind of party that Nigel Farage would turn it into. ? The Conservative Party was never like that It is only in very recent years that the Tories have played with "populism", dabbling with culture wars, not helped by some of the soon to be unemployed Red Wall Tory MPs who are more than just a tiny bit xenophobic. There have been many honourable Conservative Prime Ministers of the old fashioned, traditional kind of Conservative Party, people like MacMillan, Eden, Heath, Major. I thought Major was not such a bad chap and even voted for him, but after that we seemed to go downhill with Tory leaders. The one which really knocked them for six was Johnson. Rishi has managed to pick up some of the mess caused by Johnson, but I think he is hampered by people pressuring him to do stupid stuff and being too weak to put his foot down and do it properly. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2024 14:54:36 GMT
I reckon Farage and Boris are starting a new party! (lol)
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 3, 2024 15:07:57 GMT
So you don't think it went down under him? Interesting. Polling tells a different story. Here's a clue, Johnson had a landslide 'victory' at the last GE
This time round under Sunak they are about to face annihilation, work it out Einstein.
Is the right answer. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2024 15:16:25 GMT
Confirmed, Farage is standing as a Reform UK candidate. This changes things somewhat.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2024 15:22:39 GMT
Confirmed, Farage is standing as a Reform UK candidate. This changes things somewhat. Yep just saw it Red..... link |
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Post by Handyman on Jun 3, 2024 15:23:24 GMT
I wish him well
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2024 15:25:28 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2024 15:27:25 GMT
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