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Post by Vinny on Jun 5, 2024 8:11:19 GMT
Where is the evidence of "poison"? If I feed a rat too much salt it will die, if I feed a rat too much caffeine it will die.
If I feed a rat too much food colouring it will die.
If I give a rat too much water it will die.
And, if I put a pressure hose to a rat and give it too much air, it will die.
By EU logic, salt, caffeine, food colouring, water, air etc should be banned because if the intake is too high its fatal.
I question their logic, their testing methods and their conclusions.
The other year they banned some tattoo inks because they'd fed rats huge doses and made the rats ill.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 5, 2024 8:17:46 GMT
LOLS, when I saw the thread title I didn't believe it, when I clicked on the link I burst out laughing. Claims the much-loved flavour faced the axe were branded a pro-Brexit “myth” during the campaign which ended with Britain leaving the bloc in 2016. But the UK will soon be the only part of Europe where the crisp flavour is sold after remainers were caught telling porkies. An EU ban on smoky-bacon flavour crisps will soon become reality after member states quietly gave the go-ahead for the prohibition late in April. The move came despite pro-EU publications repeatedly claiming that Brussels’ attempts to ban certain flavours of crisps were false and part of a smear campaign. www.thesun.co.uk/money/28240421/smoky-bacon-crisp-ban-eu-bureaucrats/Next week when we go shopping I will make a point of buying some smokey bacon crisps.  No doubt with cash and not paid for by card — but seriously, are you happy to consume harmful artificial additives just because a body you disapprove of points out the dangers...?
By what methodology have you come to conclude that the additives are "harmful"? Overfeeding rats on the additives till they die? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 5, 2024 8:25:20 GMT
Where is the evidence of "poison"? If I feed a rat too much salt it will die, if I feed a rat too much caffeine it will die. If I feed a rat too much food colouring it will die. If I give a rat too much water it will die. And, if I put a pressure hose to a rat and give it too much air, it will die. By EU logic, salt, caffeine, food colouring, water, air etc should be banned because if the intake is too high its fatal. I question their logic, their testing methods and their conclusions. The other year they banned some tattoo inks because they'd fed rats huge doses and made the rats ill. Why is what the EU does or does not do such a concern for you? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 5, 2024 8:29:56 GMT
Incidentally you can read the scientific opinion that led to the EU declining to renew the authorisations for eight smoke-flavoured additives here. I look forward to your scientific rebuttal. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 5, 2024 8:38:45 GMT
I were to give you 18.1mg per kg of body weight of salt per day it would begin to make you extremely ill and even 5.1mg / kg of body weight per day would not be good.
Ban salt?
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 5, 2024 9:07:14 GMT
I were to give you 18.1mg per kg of body weight of salt per day it would begin to make you extremely ill and even 5.1mg / kg of body weight per day would not be good. Ban salt? As I'm sure you're aware there is much less salt in processed food these days precisely because of the knowledge that too much is bad for you. Even so a 185g box of Pringles contains 2g of salt, so a child weighing 30kg consuming a box would be be consuming 67mg/kg.
Even an 80kg adult would be taking in 25mg/kg with their Pringles.
Make this Pringles Smokey Bacon flavour, or Smokin' BBQ Ribs or Texas BBQ and you're practically digging your own grave with your teeth.
But now you have your 'independence' you're free to do as you please.
There would certainly a case for banning products that include this amount of salt.
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Post by wapentake on Jun 5, 2024 9:09:10 GMT
Having cast off the yoke of the unelected dictatorship Brits now have the unalienable sovereign right to poison themselves and their children to the extent they wish. Another triumph for Brexit. Incidentally exotically-flavoured potato crisps are vanishingly rare on the continent, in fact crisps in general are not a major 'food group' like they are in the UK. And all the while the mafia continue to sell virgin olive oil that is unfit for human consumption Link |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 5, 2024 9:20:06 GMT
Where is the evidence of "poison"? . Go to the links at the bottom of this page.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 5, 2024 9:20:28 GMT
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 5, 2024 9:20:35 GMT
Having cast off the yoke of the unelected dictatorship Brits now have the unalienable sovereign right to poison themselves and their children to the extent they wish. Another triumph for Brexit. Incidentally exotically-flavoured potato crisps are vanishingly rare on the continent, in fact crisps in general are not a major 'food group' like they are in the UK. Why, has the EU banned smoking and alcohol as well? Silly sod. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 5, 2024 9:34:48 GMT
Having cast off the yoke of the unelected dictatorship Brits now have the unalienable sovereign right to poison themselves and their children to the extent they wish. Another triumph for Brexit. Incidentally exotically-flavoured potato crisps are vanishingly rare on the continent, in fact crisps in general are not a major 'food group' like they are in the UK. Why, has the EU banned smoking and alcohol as well? Silly sod. Well said. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 5, 2024 9:36:05 GMT
My comment referred to the fact that smoke flavourings now unauthorised in the EU are completely legal in the UK. More fool you.
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 5, 2024 10:00:37 GMT
My comment referred to the fact that smoke flavourings now unauthorised in the EU are completely legal in the UK. More fool you. Your comment hid behind some misguided European exceptionalism with your provocation on how the UK is free to poison its people, as though that is some major health win for you. But they still allow you to poison yourself with tobacco and alcohol. Is the irony lost on you? |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 5, 2024 10:17:57 GMT
Nitrite additives in meats like bacon, ham, hot dogs and salami have been known to have links to cancer since studies in the 1970's when it was found that they can break down into nitrous-amines, the EU has not banned those either (presumably because of the rather substantial processed meat lobby).
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 5, 2024 10:25:00 GMT
The EU has already introduced (October 2023) strict new limits for the use of nitrites and nitrates as food additives. But don't worry, they won't apply in the UK, so shouldn't be a concern of yours. You can continue to poison yourself exactly as before.
This is what you ought to be worrying about rather than what is going on the continent which doesn't concern you.
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