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Post by Vinny on Jun 1, 2024 11:56:58 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 1, 2024 13:00:24 GMT
LOLS, when I saw the thread title I didn't believe it, when I clicked on the link I burst out laughing. Claims the much-loved flavour faced the axe were branded a pro-Brexit “myth” during the campaign which ended with Britain leaving the bloc in 2016. But the UK will soon be the only part of Europe where the crisp flavour is sold after remainers were caught telling porkies. An EU ban on smoky-bacon flavour crisps will soon become reality after member states quietly gave the go-ahead for the prohibition late in April. The move came despite pro-EU publications repeatedly claiming that Brussels’ attempts to ban certain flavours of crisps were false and part of a smear campaign. www.thesun.co.uk/money/28240421/smoky-bacon-crisp-ban-eu-bureaucrats/Next week when we go shopping I will make a point of buying some smokey bacon crisps.  |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 1, 2024 15:00:52 GMT
LOLS, when I saw the thread title I didn't believe it, when I clicked on the link I burst out laughing. Claims the much-loved flavour faced the axe were branded a pro-Brexit “myth” during the campaign which ended with Britain leaving the bloc in 2016. But the UK will soon be the only part of Europe where the crisp flavour is sold after remainers were caught telling porkies. An EU ban on smoky-bacon flavour crisps will soon become reality after member states quietly gave the go-ahead for the prohibition late in April. The move came despite pro-EU publications repeatedly claiming that Brussels’ attempts to ban certain flavours of crisps were false and part of a smear campaign. www.thesun.co.uk/money/28240421/smoky-bacon-crisp-ban-eu-bureaucrats/Next week when we go shopping I will make a point of buying some smokey bacon crisps. Enjoy your "genotoxic" crisps. |
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Post by patman post on Jun 1, 2024 15:08:49 GMT
LOLS, when I saw the thread title I didn't believe it, when I clicked on the link I burst out laughing. Claims the much-loved flavour faced the axe were branded a pro-Brexit “myth” during the campaign which ended with Britain leaving the bloc in 2016. But the UK will soon be the only part of Europe where the crisp flavour is sold after remainers were caught telling porkies. An EU ban on smoky-bacon flavour crisps will soon become reality after member states quietly gave the go-ahead for the prohibition late in April. The move came despite pro-EU publications repeatedly claiming that Brussels’ attempts to ban certain flavours of crisps were false and part of a smear campaign. www.thesun.co.uk/money/28240421/smoky-bacon-crisp-ban-eu-bureaucrats/Next week when we go shopping I will make a point of buying some smokey bacon crisps. No doubt with cash and not paid for by card — but seriously, are you happy to consume harmful artificial additives just because a body you disapprove of points out the dangers...?
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 1, 2024 15:09:43 GMT
LOLS, when I saw the thread title I didn't believe it, when I clicked on the link I burst out laughing. Claims the much-loved flavour faced the axe were branded a pro-Brexit “myth” during the campaign which ended with Britain leaving the bloc in 2016. But the UK will soon be the only part of Europe where the crisp flavour is sold after remainers were caught telling porkies. An EU ban on smoky-bacon flavour crisps will soon become reality after member states quietly gave the go-ahead for the prohibition late in April. The move came despite pro-EU publications repeatedly claiming that Brussels’ attempts to ban certain flavours of crisps were false and part of a smear campaign. www.thesun.co.uk/money/28240421/smoky-bacon-crisp-ban-eu-bureaucrats/Next week when we go shopping I will make a point of buying some smokey bacon crisps. Enjoy your "genotoxic" crisps. I'm sure I will, as I have been for the past 50 or 60 years. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 1, 2024 15:51:13 GMT
Enjoy your "genotoxic" crisps. I'm sure I will, as I have been for the past 50 or 60 years. I tried to find out if there were any substance to the claim, but the good olde EU was only able to link me to the abstract of the paper. The proles don't need to know the technical stuff. We take it all on trust that if there is an abstract then the paper is good science, yet it is not because science is peer reviewed. Pays your money for the research, barred from the results. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 1, 2024 16:02:48 GMT
I'm sure I will, as I have been for the past 50 or 60 years. I tried to find out if there were any substance to the claim, but the good olde EU was only able to link me to the abstract of the paper. The proles don't need to know the technical stuff. We take it all on trust that if there is an abstract then the paper is good science, yet it is not because science is peer reviewed. Pays your money for the research, barred from the results. I suspect it's one of those cases in which a substance or ingredient may indeed be dangerous to your health, if you consume in excess of half a ton a day. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 1, 2024 16:22:38 GMT
I tried to find out if there were any substance to the claim, but the good olde EU was only able to link me to the abstract of the paper. The proles don't need to know the technical stuff. We take it all on trust that if there is an abstract then the paper is good science, yet it is not because science is peer reviewed. Pays your money for the research, barred from the results. I suspect it's one of those cases in which a substance or ingredient may indeed be dangerous to your health, if you consume in excess of half a ton a day. Well what is known is that if you burn organic material and it does not fully burn, which I think might be if it has inadequate oxygen, but can be because it is not quite hot enough, then you get some by-product which is cancerous. I read about it in Wikipedia when trying to find out exactly how smoking tobacco is cancerous and this was the answer, as per incomplete combustion of organic material, e.g. leaves, but burning wood or even meat is just as bad. Those warnings on tobacco about loads of chemicals are present in the burning of it including some nasty ones applies equally to burning wood. So when they talk about this smoke, it might be for the same reason, but then again it might not be. We can not access it on the web freely. In the article it said some concerns are only suspicions where they can't rule it out that it is safe vs can prove it is dangerous.
So the answer is we just don't know if this is reasonable or not. One bit of a concern though was in my area you get these people who try and live like they are living in medieval times and would sit around camp fires like a tribe. I heard of a lot of people getting cancer and some really weird things that were rare, like a brain tumour in a 21 year old girl. All this gave me the creeps, but it would be difficult to isolate the cause. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 1, 2024 17:02:10 GMT
Tbh, I think you may be overthinking this. I imagine a walk through Hackney or any other wonderfully multicultural London borough, poses a far greater risk to ones health than eating the odd bag of smoky bacon crisps.
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 2, 2024 8:06:34 GMT
LOLS, when I saw the thread title I didn't believe it, when I clicked on the link I burst out laughing. Claims the much-loved flavour faced the axe were branded a pro-Brexit “myth” during the campaign which ended with Britain leaving the bloc in 2016. But the UK will soon be the only part of Europe where the crisp flavour is sold after remainers were caught telling porkies. An EU ban on smoky-bacon flavour crisps will soon become reality after member states quietly gave the go-ahead for the prohibition late in April. The move came despite pro-EU publications repeatedly claiming that Brussels’ attempts to ban certain flavours of crisps were false and part of a smear campaign. www.thesun.co.uk/money/28240421/smoky-bacon-crisp-ban-eu-bureaucrats/Next week when we go shopping I will make a point of buying some smokey bacon crisps. No doubt with cash and not paid for by card — but seriously, are you happy to consume harmful artificial additives just because a body you disapprove of points out the dangers...?
There is no scientific evidence to suggest the flavouring in the crisps are carcinogenic as such. But because the EU says, with its lack of empirical evidence and priori approach to monitoring regulations, you believe it to be true. The EU could tell people like you anything and you'd believe because they say so. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 2, 2024 8:50:20 GMT
Tbh, I think you may be overthinking this. I imagine a walk through Hackney or any other wonderfully multicultural London borough, poses a far greater risk to ones health than eating the odd bag of smoky bacon crisps. I find it interesting anyway. The science is so advanced now they can pin down exactly how cancer is caused via the physics of the molecules. It's about substances that can alter your DNA and some alterations can cause the cells to rapidly multiply so you have a tumour. You go back to the 60s and 70s and really the only way they did this was through statistics, but it is very difficult to track down which thing you eat that causes the trouble. There are millions of different chemicals we eat because as food is processed so you get more by-products from processes and all sorts. If we can find the bad ones and ban them, then that could cut out a lot of ill-health and the cost of dealing with it. Traditional processes don't even guarantee health. They knew far less back in those times. |
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Post by patman post on Jun 2, 2024 11:24:59 GMT
Rather than reacting to a report in the Sun, I checked back to the source that detailed the consideration given to scientific opinion. www.efsa.europa.eu/en/topics/topic/smoke-flavouringsI doubt there’s too much problem with traditional smoking of cheeses, fish, meats, etc, but it’s time consuming and expensive. Adding artificial colourings and flavouring is not necessarily wrong — it just depends what they are. For instance it was not long ago that various spices were found to have dangerous amounts of arsenic, cadmium, lead, etc. Luckily I’m not addicted to crisps of any flavour, so taking note of EFSA’s concerns will be no personal hardship… |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 3, 2024 7:15:26 GMT
It's brown for kippers again In 1980 my academic supervisor got a slot at the CERN particle accelerator to atomise some long chain carbohydrates to shoot a hole in Fred Hoyle's theory of panspermia. He was suddenly bombarded by requests to ship out what amounted in the end to half a ton of kippers. We labelled them as protein sample material and somehow they travelled as uninspectable baggage, god knows how but this was a world in which it would be two decades before the towers came down. He was apparently the most popular scientist at the whole site. Why ? The EEC had decided to ban the brown food colouring known by the trade name 'brown for kippers' so the only kippers allowed to be sold were a disgusting pale yellow. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 5, 2024 6:57:51 GMT
One interesting result of this regulation is that Northern Ireland will be banned from making Smokey Bacon Crisps but Smokey Bacon Crisps will be legal for sale in NI if they are made somewhere else in the UK..
Of course that then opens the door to Smokey Bacon Crisps being smuggled into Ireland to satisfy the demands of the addicts there..
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 5, 2024 7:59:00 GMT
Having cast off the yoke of the unelected dictatorship Brits now have the unalienable sovereign right to poison themselves and their children to the extent they wish. Another triumph for Brexit.
Incidentally exotically-flavoured potato crisps are vanishingly rare on the continent, in fact crisps in general are not a major 'food group' like they are in the UK.
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