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Post by patman post on Jun 2, 2024 15:45:08 GMT
Loads of invective and opinion, yet nobody has posted one shred of evidence... This is a Forum to exchange opinions not a Court of Law, As Abbott what a hypocrite she is She did not send her son to school in her constituency, she sent him to a Private School paying £10,000 a year as she did not want him to end up in as a black gang member, he ended up on drugs attacked her and Police had to rescue her Drugs ruin lives, Black and White.
The following describes the area I know well. It is worth reading in full — except it won't provide much supporting info for closed minds on here:
Jewish and Muslim communities unite in London amid rise in UK hate crimes
Islamophobic and anti-Semitic hate crimes have recently risen sharply, but not here in Stamford Hill. This north London neighborhood is home to thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews but it also has a large and well-established Muslim community. On one street alone there is a mosque and Muslim community center facing a Jewish primary school on the other side of the road.
Tariq Mahmoud regularly comes to pray at the mosque here. "It's OK here, it's 15 years since I've been in this country, I've never had a problem with any community, he said. "Jews, Hindu, Christian, atheists – we don't have any problem, we are living in peace."
There are frustrations and anger in the Muslim community over the conflict, and resentment that pro-Palestinian rallies were dubbed hate marches by the Home Secretary Suella Braverman.
Munaf Zeena, Chairman of the North London Community Centre," said: "We are very angry, very frustrated. We do feel that we are not being heard, that we are being side-lined."
But Zeena says that hasn't stopped the two communities from cooperating.
"We have a fantastic record of working together for the last 40 to 50 years. We recognize that the issues of the Middle East which are going on, we are all angry about it in different ways but we live together as one community."
Zeena works closely with Rabbi Herschel Gluck**, they co-chair the Muslim Jewish Forum in Stamford Hill. Rabbi Gluck says the strength of the relationship between Jews and Muslims has ensured there is no divide between them.
"The community is still interacting in exactly the same way as prior to the terrible acts on the 7th of October," he said. "We trust each other, we know each other. We see each other not as the other but as members of a community of communities. So therefore the trust and friendship is so deep that even something as horrific as what we have seen over the past few weeks couldn't dent that inherent friendship."
This area has been spared most of the anti-Semitic hate crimes, unlike other predominantly Jewish neighbourhoods like Golders Green.
Rabbi Gluck is also President of the Stamford Hill Shomrim, a group of Jewish volunteers who have formed a Neighborhood Watch-type group. They came together to help police to reduce crime and citizens to feel safe within Jewish communities in north west London.
"These hate crimes are not coming from the Muslim community here," said Gluck, who has access to all of Shomrim's incident reports. "Most of it is coming from non-Muslims and there has been no case of any Muslim who is living here being involved in an anti-Semitic incident."
As the conflict in Israel and Gaza goes on, the strength of these community ties will continue be tested. But as things stand, local people are refusing to break bonds strengthened by decades of friendship and cooperation.
**Orthodox rabbi in Diane Abbott’s constituency defends her and criticises Keir Starmer
Over all, I guess this forum's providing an outlet for ignorant bigotry, which is certainly better than the posters joining their hate-crime counterparts on London streets...
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 2, 2024 15:54:11 GMT
This is a Forum to exchange opinions not a Court of Law, As Abbott what a hypocrite she is She did not send her son to school in her constituency, she sent him to a Private School paying £10,000 a year as she did not want him to end up in as a black gang member, he ended up on drugs attacked her and Police had to rescue her Drugs ruin lives, Black and White.
The following describes the area I know well. It is worth reading in full — except it won't provide much supporting info for closed minds on here:
Jewish and Muslim communities unite in London amid rise in UK hate crimes
Islamophobic and anti-Semitic hate crimes have recently risen sharply, but not here in Stamford Hill. This north London neighborhood is home to thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews but it also has a large and well-established Muslim community. On one street alone there is a mosque and Muslim community center facing a Jewish primary school on the other side of the road.
Tariq Mahmoud regularly comes to pray at the mosque here. "It's OK here, it's 15 years since I've been in this country, I've never had a problem with any community, he said. "Jews, Hindu, Christian, atheists – we don't have any problem, we are living in peace."
There are frustrations and anger in the Muslim community over the conflict, and resentment that pro-Palestinian rallies were dubbed hate marches by the Home Secretary Suella Braverman.
Munaf Zeena, Chairman of the North London Community Centre," said: "We are very angry, very frustrated. We do feel that we are not being heard, that we are being side-lined."
But Zeena says that hasn't stopped the two communities from cooperating.
"We have a fantastic record of working together for the last 40 to 50 years. We recognize that the issues of the Middle East which are going on, we are all angry about it in different ways but we live together as one community."
Zeena works closely with Rabbi Herschel Gluck**, they co-chair the Muslim Jewish Forum in Stamford Hill. Rabbi Gluck says the strength of the relationship between Jews and Muslims has ensured there is no divide between them.
"The community is still interacting in exactly the same way as prior to the terrible acts on the 7th of October," he said. "We trust each other, we know each other. We see each other not as the other but as members of a community of communities. So therefore the trust and friendship is so deep that even something as horrific as what we have seen over the past few weeks couldn't dent that inherent friendship."
This area has been spared most of the anti-Semitic hate crimes, unlike other predominantly Jewish neighbourhoods like Golders Green.
Rabbi Gluck is also President of the Stamford Hill Shomrim, a group of Jewish volunteers who have formed a Neighborhood Watch-type group. They came together to help police to reduce crime and citizens to feel safe within Jewish communities in north west London.
"These hate crimes are not coming from the Muslim community here," said Gluck, who has access to all of Shomrim's incident reports. "Most of it is coming from non-Muslims and there has been no case of any Muslim who is living here being involved in an anti-Semitic incident."
As the conflict in Israel and Gaza goes on, the strength of these community ties will continue be tested. But as things stand, local people are refusing to break bonds strengthened by decades of friendship and cooperation.
**Orthodox rabbi in Diane Abbott’s constituency defends her and criticises Keir Starmer
Over all, I guess this forum's providing an outlet for ignorant bigotry, which is certainly better than the posters joining their hate-crime counterparts on London streets...
You are missing the bigger picture England the UK, e.g England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales are predominantly 'white' 'Christians' 'Catholic' by Religion, why have other Religions visited their problems on Us?
Why have we become embroiled in other Religious conflicts?
It is not our problem, and if those who have decided to live in the UK must abide by our values and be 'Tolerant' to other religions .........and if they fail to do so ........ KICK THE FUCKERS OUT AND DEPORT THEM BACK TO THEIR OWN SHIT HOLES. ..... otherwise they should SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2024 16:34:06 GMT
Loads of invective and opinion, yet nobody has posted one shred of evidence... This is a Forum to exchange opinions not a Court of Law, As Abbott what a hypocrite she is She did not send her son to school in her constituency, she sent him to a Private School paying £10,000 a year as she did not want him to end up in as a black gang member, he ended up on drugs attacked her and Police had to rescue her True, but it looks like she isn't even running the area, which is probably a good thing considering she can't even raise her own child, even with a big wad of cash, to be even half decent. |
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Post by witchfinder on Jun 2, 2024 16:36:41 GMT
The far Left amongst the Parliamentary Labour Party is grossly exaggerated
The main Left wing group in the party is The Socialist Campaign Group, which consists of 31 members of Parliament, however the number includes Andy McDonald and Jeremy Corbyn ( both without the Labour whip ).
At the dissolution of Parliament this represented less than 15% of the Parliamentary Party, meaning of course that 85% of the PLP were not of the far Left.
It is highly likely, or most probable that in the new Parliament the percentage of MPs of the far Left in the party will be more like 10%, and possibly as low as only 5%.
The National Executive Committee of the Labour Party is dominated by members of the Centre Left / moderate Left, as is the National Policy Forum.
It was impossible prior to this general election for there to be a "take-over" or leadership challenge by the Left, and it will be even more so after the general election. The far Left will have a voice, a small one, but in reality they will have no real power or influence, because they just wont have the numbers.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 2, 2024 16:38:48 GMT
It beggars belief that someone as thick as two short planks is worth £1million +, how the fuck did Abbott dimwit make that sort of money?
That race card is worth a fortune ..... just ask Lenny Henry, anyone who plays that card holds a Royal Flush.
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Post by sandypine on Jun 2, 2024 16:39:32 GMT
This is a Forum to exchange opinions not a Court of Law, As Abbott what a hypocrite she is She did not send her son to school in her constituency, she sent him to a Private School paying £10,000 a year as she did not want him to end up in as a black gang member, he ended up on drugs attacked her and Police had to rescue her Drugs ruin lives, Black and White.
The following describes the area I know well. It is worth reading in full — except it won't provide much supporting info for closed minds on here:
Jewish and Muslim communities unite in London amid rise in UK hate crimes
Islamophobic and anti-Semitic hate crimes have recently risen sharply, but not here in Stamford Hill. This north London neighborhood is home to thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews but it also has a large and well-established Muslim community. On one street alone there is a mosque and Muslim community center facing a Jewish primary school on the other side of the road.
Tariq Mahmoud regularly comes to pray at the mosque here. "It's OK here, it's 15 years since I've been in this country, I've never had a problem with any community, he said. "Jews, Hindu, Christian, atheists – we don't have any problem, we are living in peace."
There are frustrations and anger in the Muslim community over the conflict, and resentment that pro-Palestinian rallies were dubbed hate marches by the Home Secretary Suella Braverman.
Munaf Zeena, Chairman of the North London Community Centre," said: "We are very angry, very frustrated. We do feel that we are not being heard, that we are being side-lined."
But Zeena says that hasn't stopped the two communities from cooperating.
"We have a fantastic record of working together for the last 40 to 50 years. We recognize that the issues of the Middle East which are going on, we are all angry about it in different ways but we live together as one community."
Zeena works closely with Rabbi Herschel Gluck**, they co-chair the Muslim Jewish Forum in Stamford Hill. Rabbi Gluck says the strength of the relationship between Jews and Muslims has ensured there is no divide between them.
"The community is still interacting in exactly the same way as prior to the terrible acts on the 7th of October," he said. "We trust each other, we know each other. We see each other not as the other but as members of a community of communities. So therefore the trust and friendship is so deep that even something as horrific as what we have seen over the past few weeks couldn't dent that inherent friendship."
This area has been spared most of the anti-Semitic hate crimes, unlike other predominantly Jewish neighbourhoods like Golders Green.
Rabbi Gluck is also President of the Stamford Hill Shomrim, a group of Jewish volunteers who have formed a Neighborhood Watch-type group. They came together to help police to reduce crime and citizens to feel safe within Jewish communities in north west London.
"These hate crimes are not coming from the Muslim community here," said Gluck, who has access to all of Shomrim's incident reports. "Most of it is coming from non-Muslims and there has been no case of any Muslim who is living here being involved in an anti-Semitic incident."
As the conflict in Israel and Gaza goes on, the strength of these community ties will continue be tested. But as things stand, local people are refusing to break bonds strengthened by decades of friendship and cooperation.
**Orthodox rabbi in Diane Abbott’s constituency defends her and criticises Keir Starmer
Over all, I guess this forum's providing an outlet for ignorant bigotry, which is certainly better than the posters joining their hate-crime counterparts on London streets...
"Most of it is coming from non-Muslims and there has been no case of any Muslim who is living here being involved in an anti-Semitic incident." Is there any evidence to back up that statement in that it is non-Muslims responsible for most of the incidents. I do not doubt that in this specific area they all get on well despite their religious differences but blaming a rise in Jewish hate incidents on non-Muslims with seemingly no evidence is a bit rich. |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 2, 2024 16:41:05 GMT
This is a Forum to exchange opinions not a Court of Law, As Abbott what a hypocrite she is She did not send her son to school in her constituency, she sent him to a Private School paying £10,000 a year as she did not want him to end up in as a black gang member, he ended up on drugs attacked her and Police had to rescue her True, but it looks like she isn't even running the area, which is probably a good thing considering she can't even raise her own child, even with a big wad of cash, to be even half decent. Perhaps genes play a part from both mother and apparently absent father. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2024 20:33:34 GMT
"Most of it is coming from non-Muslims and there has been no case of any Muslim who is living here being involved in an anti-Semitic incident." Is there any evidence to back up that statement in that it is non-Muslims responsible for most of the incidents. I do not doubt that in this specific area they all get on well despite their religious differences but blaming a rise in Jewish hate incidents on non-Muslims with seemingly no evidence is a bit rich. It's interesting that the actual media won't really touch this and that nobody is addressing anything that's being mentioned. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 2, 2024 21:40:26 GMT
So even Labour candidates think Starmer is not to be trusted..   |
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Post by Handyman on Jun 3, 2024 5:58:56 GMT
This is a Forum to exchange opinions not a Court of Law, As Abbott what a hypocrite she is She did not send her son to school in her constituency, she sent him to a Private School paying £10,000 a year as she did not want him to end up in as a black gang member, he ended up on drugs attacked her and Police had to rescue her Drugs ruin lives, Black and White.
The following describes the area I know well. It is worth reading in full — except it won't provide much supporting info for closed minds on here:
Jewish and Muslim communities unite in London amid rise in UK hate crimes
Islamophobic and anti-Semitic hate crimes have recently risen sharply, but not here in Stamford Hill. This north London neighborhood is home to thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews but it also has a large and well-established Muslim community. On one street alone there is a mosque and Muslim community center facing a Jewish primary school on the other side of the road.
Tariq Mahmoud regularly comes to pray at the mosque here. "It's OK here, it's 15 years since I've been in this country, I've never had a problem with any community, he said. "Jews, Hindu, Christian, atheists – we don't have any problem, we are living in peace."
There are frustrations and anger in the Muslim community over the conflict, and resentment that pro-Palestinian rallies were dubbed hate marches by the Home Secretary Suella Braverman.
Munaf Zeena, Chairman of the North London Community Centre," said: "We are very angry, very frustrated. We do feel that we are not being heard, that we are being side-lined."
But Zeena says that hasn't stopped the two communities from cooperating.
"We have a fantastic record of working together for the last 40 to 50 years. We recognize that the issues of the Middle East which are going on, we are all angry about it in different ways but we live together as one community."
Zeena works closely with Rabbi Herschel Gluck**, they co-chair the Muslim Jewish Forum in Stamford Hill. Rabbi Gluck says the strength of the relationship between Jews and Muslims has ensured there is no divide between them.
"The community is still interacting in exactly the same way as prior to the terrible acts on the 7th of October," he said. "We trust each other, we know each other. We see each other not as the other but as members of a community of communities. So therefore the trust and friendship is so deep that even something as horrific as what we have seen over the past few weeks couldn't dent that inherent friendship."
This area has been spared most of the anti-Semitic hate crimes, unlike other predominantly Jewish neighbourhoods like Golders Green.
Rabbi Gluck is also President of the Stamford Hill Shomrim, a group of Jewish volunteers who have formed a Neighborhood Watch-type group. They came together to help police to reduce crime and citizens to feel safe within Jewish communities in north west London.
"These hate crimes are not coming from the Muslim community here," said Gluck, who has access to all of Shomrim's incident reports. "Most of it is coming from non-Muslims and there has been no case of any Muslim who is living here being involved in an anti-Semitic incident."
As the conflict in Israel and Gaza goes on, the strength of these community ties will continue be tested. But as things stand, local people are refusing to break bonds strengthened by decades of friendship and cooperation.
**Orthodox rabbi in Diane Abbott’s constituency defends her and criticises Keir Starmer
Over all, I guess this forum's providing an outlet for ignorant bigotry, which is certainly better than the posters joining their hate-crime counterparts on London streets...
We know what the International Organised Gangs of drug dealers and street dealers have done to many countries not just to the UK, and we see the results on our streets 24/7, the smugglers suppliers are from different nationalities from around the world. What you cannot get away from in London there are over 100 gangs of mainly young black men that are killing each other for dominance of parts of London, Birmingham and elsewhere to peddle this filthy stuff to make huge amounts of money from gullible idiots, they don't give a flying fuck who buys it. Who do you think you think are running the County Lines across the country ? the Salvation Army, no mainly young black men who are over represented in UK Prisons because they are caught possessing and selling the crap, killing their rivals or engaged in street robberies, smash and grabs, snatching watches and mobile phones 24/7 . And its not just black youths that are at it 24/7, those are facts you cannot ignore |
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