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Post by see2 on May 24, 2024 9:47:16 GMT
The sad part is Starmer doesn't want to tell us any of his (bad) policies, he doesn't want to and he doesn't have to, he's already won the General Election by Default, so his plan of action is to say or do nothing, it's already in the bag. He has made it quite clear that his initial policy is to strengthen the economy, an obvious necessity given the mess it is in. Then there is the improvements to the NHS, the increase in teacher numbers which will include teacher training which is low at the moment, the introduction of a new publicly owned 'Power Energy Company'. There's a few for you to be going on with. But first he has to find a way to get beyond the more simple minded i.e. very easily led, Tory voters. |
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Post by buccaneer on May 24, 2024 9:59:03 GMT
Both are suffering from a personality vacuum, not to mention a total lack of any relevant policies. They are both light years removed from every day realities the rest of us mere peasants endure. The UK is a democracy in name only........The weakness of the Conservative Government has meant that sir Kniel can promise little and ignore the scrutiny of TV debates and still win comfortably in the GE. We are living in a political black hole that will only continue because we don't have leaders anymore, we have Box tickers, Teleprompter readers, Tricksters and Career Liars in positions of power. The true leaders are all gone and i don't see any politician, even Reform's offerings as any exception to this.......
Starmer ducks weekly TV debates with Sunak as Tories brand Labour leader 'the Knight afraid to fight' - after he only agreed to two.......
Starmer speaks during a Labour general election campaign event at Priestfield Stadium
Tories branded Sir Keir Starmer the 'Knight afraid to fight' after Rishi Sunak challenged him to a record six television election debates – but the Labour leader is said to be willing to do only two.
The Prime Minister wants to take on the opposition leader every week of the campaign before polling day on July 4, more than any of his predecessors have ever agreed to.
But the Labour leader is said to want to 'get out on the ground' instead and is likely only to agree to TV debates on the BBC and ITV.
Last night, Tories branded him 'Sir Fear Starmer' over his perceived reluctance.
Mr Sunak's team are said to be trying to organise the first TV debate for next week, with a source close to the PM saying: 'Rishi Sunak is up for debating Keir Starmer as many times as he likes.
The first part of your post is a good example of where you are, i.e. in a world of your own. The second part is just a return to the lying distorting denigration of the opposition, which is the norm for the Conservative party and their misguided followers. You are one of the worst posters on this forum. Sorry mods. |
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Post by jonksy on May 24, 2024 10:03:03 GMT
Oh so you won't mind a slag being a deputy PM then hh? How do you think that will play out on the world stage? Well you were quite happy having the sexually incontinent Boris Johnson as PM weren't you? A bit rich you now suddenly clutching your pearls at Rayner. At least Boris got married and was educated in a university and not a bike shed hh.. |
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Post by Fairsociety on May 24, 2024 10:04:48 GMT
The sad part is Starmer doesn't want to tell us any of his (bad) policies, he doesn't want to and he doesn't have to, he's already won the General Election by Default, so his plan of action is to say or do nothing, it's already in the bag. There's a few for you to be going on with. But first he has to find a way to get beyond the more simple minded i.e. very easily led, Tory voters. Yes, but he hasn't told us how he's going to do it? |
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Post by happyhornet on May 24, 2024 10:05:44 GMT
Well you were quite happy having the sexually incontinent Boris Johnson as PM weren't you? A bit rich you now suddenly clutching your pearls at Rayner. At least Boris got married and was educated in a university and not a bike shed hh.. I'm quite happy to have front line politicians from working class backgrounds because I'm not a snob or a cap doffer. |
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Post by see2 on May 24, 2024 10:10:07 GMT
I realise I'm in a minority here but I've never seen what's so important about charisma in politicians. I don't want an entertainer for PM, I'd actually prefer someone sensible and dedicated to the job. it is interesting what kinnock said the other day about starmer.... Labour ‘not ambitious enough’ for supporters and polls will tighten, says Kinnock
Neil Kinnock has said Labour supporters would like to see more ambitious policies in Keir Starmer’s manifesto and that the party must prepare for its lead in the opinion polls to shrink in the run up to the election.
In an interview with i, the former Labour leader said he puts Sir Keir’s more cautious approach down to trying to attract enough votes from non-traditional supporters in order to become the largest party in the House of Commons this year.
He added that the election is “a long way away” and that the opinion polls were likely to tighten as it gets closer.
“Whether that means Labour is the largest party or wins a majority, I don’t know,” Lord Kinnock said. Starmers personal ratings appear terrible , especially in scotland , and in general he is seen as a wet blanket , a political weather vane. with no morals. Certainly I agree with kinnock the low CTV in polls is overblowing the labour lead , and if people get pissed off enough to go out and vote , rather than as starmer hopes , stay at home , labours majority could be in big trouble. Starerme certainly appears to be dedicated , dedicated to winning power at all cost that is , but I dont in any way believe he is sensible , with some of his decision making and strategies error strewn and out of touch , for example Brexit and Palestine. He seems to believe lefties will stick with him no matter what he does or says , and middle c tories will flock to him in the marginals . All very blairite 1997 esque , but this isnt 1997 , and starmer is no Blair. I see it as really sad when people spend so much time following the Conservative practice of fixed opinioned denigration against Labour. It's no wonder the UK struggles to get anywhere. I would remind you that the Tories have dominated Parliament for a tad over 70% of the time since 1951. If you want to see what the UKs biggest weakness is, then look no further than the Tory party. (The other 30% was roughly split between New and Old Labour). |
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Post by see2 on May 24, 2024 10:11:55 GMT
The first part of your post is a good example of where you are, i.e. in a world of your own. The second part is just a return to the lying distorting denigration of the opposition, which is the norm for the Conservative party and their misguided followers. You are one of the worst posters on this forum. Sorry mods. Perhaps I hit a raw nerve? |
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Post by jonksy on May 24, 2024 10:13:37 GMT
At least Boris got married and was educated in a university and not a bike shed hh.. I'm quite happy to have front line politicians from working class backgrounds because I'm not a snob or a cap doffer. It seems you don't mind uneducated slags also supporting you on the world stage.. |
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Post by thomas on May 24, 2024 10:16:51 GMT
it is interesting what kinnock said the other day about starmer.... Labour ‘not ambitious enough’ for supporters and polls will tighten, says Kinnock
Neil Kinnock has said Labour supporters would like to see more ambitious policies in Keir Starmer’s manifesto and that the party must prepare for its lead in the opinion polls to shrink in the run up to the election.
In an interview with i, the former Labour leader said he puts Sir Keir’s more cautious approach down to trying to attract enough votes from non-traditional supporters in order to become the largest party in the House of Commons this year.
He added that the election is “a long way away” and that the opinion polls were likely to tighten as it gets closer.
“Whether that means Labour is the largest party or wins a majority, I don’t know,” Lord Kinnock said. Starmers personal ratings appear terrible , especially in scotland , and in general he is seen as a wet blanket , a political weather vane. with no morals. Certainly I agree with kinnock the low CTV in polls is overblowing the labour lead , and if people get pissed off enough to go out and vote , rather than as starmer hopes , stay at home , labours majority could be in big trouble. Starerme certainly appears to be dedicated , dedicated to winning power at all cost that is , but I dont in any way believe he is sensible , with some of his decision making and strategies error strewn and out of touch , for example Brexit and Palestine. He seems to believe lefties will stick with him no matter what he does or says , and middle c tories will flock to him in the marginals . All very blairite 1997 esque , but this isnt 1997 , and starmer is no Blair. I see it as really sad when people spend so much time following the Conservative practice of fixed opinioned denigration against Labour. It's no wonder the UK struggles to get anywhere. I would remind you that the Tories have dominated Parliament for a tad over 70% of the time since 1951. If you want to see what the UKs biggest weakness is, then look no further than the Tory party. (The other 30% was roughly split between New and Old Labour). I repeat yet again 1. Im not a tory. Never once voted tory in my life. 2. Im simply pointing out kinnocks call of being wary of what the polls are allegedly showing echo what I believe. Kinnock need I remind you is a former labour leader. So what are you waffling about now? Are you implying he is a secret tory plant or some other such nonsense? Starmer isnt liked , and is massively distrusted across the uk nations. No one believes a word he says , and certainly I dont think outside of delusional supporters like yourself anyone believes starmer will improve things. He says much , largely empty soundbites but offers very little detail.  |
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Post by thomas on May 24, 2024 10:17:48 GMT
You are one of the worst posters on this forum. Sorry mods. Perhaps I hit a raw nerve? you couldnt hit a raw nerve with a nuclear missile if you tried . I dont often agree with buccy , but he's no wrong here. |
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Post by jonksy on May 24, 2024 10:22:22 GMT
He has made it quite clear that his initial policy is to strengthen the economy, an obvious necessity given the mess it is in. Then there is the improvements to the NHS, the increase in teacher numbers which will include teacher training which is low at the moment, the introduction of a new publicly owned 'Power Energy Company'. There's a few for you to be going on with. But first he has to find a way to get beyond the more simple minded i.e. very easily led, Tory voters. Yes, but he hasn't told us how he's going to do it? The twat cannot even define a woman. No wonder he doesn't want to appear on tv.. |
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Post by see2 on May 24, 2024 10:26:32 GMT
Well you were quite happy having the sexually incontinent Boris Johnson as PM weren't you? A bit rich you now suddenly clutching your pearls at Rayner. At least Boris got married and was educated in a university and not a bike shed hh.. Boris has been married before and has at least one child from an illegitimated affair. Who knows, Boris having it off behind the bike shed LOL |
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Post by see2 on May 24, 2024 10:28:16 GMT
I see it as really sad when people spend so much time following the Conservative practice of fixed opinioned denigration against Labour. It's no wonder the UK struggles to get anywhere. I would remind you that the Tories have dominated Parliament for a tad over 70% of the time since 1951. If you want to see what the UKs biggest weakness is, then look no further than the Tory party. (The other 30% was roughly split between New and Old Labour). I repeat yet again 1. Im not a tory. Never once voted tory in my life. I never said you were a Tory, I posted --- "I see it as really sad when people spend so much time following the Conservative practice of fixed opinioned denigration against Labour |
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Post by thomas on May 24, 2024 10:30:27 GMT
Yes, but he hasn't told us how he's going to do it? The twat cannot even define a woman. No wonder he doesn't want to appear on tv.. the good thing now is that as we go into the campaign period , starmer now has to put meat on the bones of his empty soundbites , and as he struggles to , watch how his parties alleged support evaporates. It's all very well sitting on the sidelines chirping about saving the world and hugging the poor , but it's a different matter doing it. 112 years and counted labour have been promising to abolish the lords. |
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Post by see2 on May 24, 2024 10:32:25 GMT
Yes, but he hasn't told us how he's going to do it? The twat cannot even define a woman. No wonder he doesn't want to appear on tv.. Proof please. |
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