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Post by patman post on May 28, 2024 12:10:55 GMT
Sunak is smarter than Starmer but that won't help him as people want the Tories and Sunak out. Even the Tories themselves didn't want Sunak in the first place. Could be true — except that it was the Tory Party membership that chose Truss. Tory MPs wanted Sunak.
I'd also make the point that Starmer in his three years as leader has removed the Labour Party from the clutches of anti-Semite, terrorist-supporting, anti-British Hard Left, and turned it into an electable party.
Admittedly, Sunak has only been Tory leader since October 2022, but he's not managed to unite the party under one appealing banner. To date, 70 Tory MPs have deserted prior to the coming election, while others are counselling the party needs to move towards Reform and invite Farage to lead...
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Post by patman post on May 28, 2024 12:25:53 GMT
But Labour has not been in power for 14 years. Are you suggesting it has supernatural powers that enable it to run the country while in opposition…? The Conservatives have not been in power for 14 years either. True — they've behaved more like Theresa May's "Nasty Party", reacting more like BNP appeasers while embracing Kafkaesque approaches to delivering justice and help to members of the public adversely affected by state operatives including emergency services such as Police, NHS, and Fire...
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Post by Red Rackham on May 28, 2024 12:40:57 GMT
The Conservatives have not been in power for 14 years either. True — they've behaved more like Theresa May's "Nasty Party", reacting more like BNP appeasers while embracing Kafkaesque approaches to delivering justice and help to members of the public adversely affected by state operatives including emergency services such as Police, NHS, and Fire... LOL, right OK. Keep taking the tablets. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 28, 2024 12:41:49 GMT
This is the problem with you lefties, you are incapable of differentiating between asylum and illegal immigration. You hide behind antiquated legislation that was designed to protect millions of displaced people in 1940's/50's war torn Europe. Yet today, 75 years later that same legislation is being used to stop the government deporting criminals, and make no mistake, people who cross the channel are criminals. France is not at war. Wake up. Then show me figures Figures! What figures?.. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 28, 2024 14:30:44 GMT
The Conservatives have not been in power for 14 years either. True — they've behaved more like Theresa May's "Nasty Party", reacting more like BNP appeasers while embracing Kafkaesque approaches to delivering justice and help to members of the public adversely affected by state operatives including emergency services such as Police, NHS, and Fire...
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 28, 2024 14:58:12 GMT
...I'd also make the point that Starmer in his three years as leader has removed the Labour Party from the clutches of anti-Semite, terrorist-supporting, anti-British Hard Left, and turned it into an electable party... |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2024 15:03:26 GMT
...I'd also make the point that Starmer in his three years as leader has removed the Labour Party from the clutches of anti-Semite, terrorist-supporting, anti-British Hard Left, and turned it into an electable party... He's been watching "Jackanory", TSM. |
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Post by zanygame on May 28, 2024 16:43:19 GMT
Meme is obviously by a thick lefty who cannot spell or punctuate English. Spelling, punctuation. That all you got. How sad. Oh Ok. So who was in power from 2010 to 2015? The Libdems ? Lol. Was that  as well. |
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Post by zanygame on May 28, 2024 16:46:04 GMT
Figures supporting your claim that I am missing large numbers of illegal immigrants by misnaming them. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2024 19:13:07 GMT
Meme is obviously by a thick lefty who cannot spell or punctuate English. Spelling, punctuation. That all you got. How sad. I thought it was more than enough. Unless your audience are all illiterate and stupid, in which case I doubt that it matters.
EDIT: it looks to be the case.
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Post by Totheleft on May 28, 2024 19:24:05 GMT
Spelling, punctuation. That all you got. How sad. I thought it was more than enough. Unless your audience are all illiterate and stupid, in that case, I doubt that it matters. I blame the sun reader and Hummus supporter |
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Post by Bentley on May 28, 2024 21:17:27 GMT
I thought it was more than enough. Unless your audience are all illiterate and stupid, in that case, I doubt that it matters. I blame the sun reader and Hummus supporter ^…right on time .😁 |
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Post by happyhornet on May 29, 2024 6:43:45 GMT
This is an interesting observation I thought: "At the moment this election feels like 2019 in reverse, as Starmer’s Labour has a very simple slogan - “Change” - and policies we’ve known about for months or longer, whereas Sunak’s Tories seem to be offering something new each day on a platform of “clear plan, bold action, secure future”. I am not arguing Starmer is Johnson and Sunak is Corbyn! But in 2019 the Tories had approximately one and a half policies - getting Brexit “done” and something about “levelling up” - whereas Labour had an Argos catalogue of offers. We know the result. Less can be more in politics. So the test of Sunak’s many “bold actions” is whether they end up forming a coherent whole or feel a bit too random" x.com/Peston/status/1795531105312874502?t=WTPMIrmvFS06xeIcteskhw&s=19It's true in 2019 the Tories had excellent message discipline, from memory it seemed like Boris Johnson went through entire interviews saying nothing but"Get Brexit done" and it worked. As someone points out in the replies, the Tories have the same problem any long term incumbent has when it comes to proposing new policies people immediately ask if it's such a great idea why haven't they done it already? |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 29, 2024 8:42:02 GMT
This is an interesting observation I thought: "At the moment this election feels like 2019 in reverse, as Starmer’s Labour has a very simple slogan - “Change” - and policies we’ve known about for months or longer, whereas Sunak’s Tories seem to be offering something new each day on a platform of “clear plan, bold action, secure future”. I am not arguing Starmer is Johnson and Sunak is Corbyn! But in 2019 the Tories had approximately one and a half policies - getting Brexit “done” and something about “levelling up” - whereas Labour had an Argos catalogue of offers. We know the result. Less can be more in politics. So the test of Sunak’s many “bold actions” is whether they end up forming a coherent whole or feel a bit too random" x.com/Peston/status/1795531105312874502?t=WTPMIrmvFS06xeIcteskhw&s=19It's true in 2019 the Tories had excellent message discipline, from memory it seemed like Boris Johnson went through entire interviews saying nothing but"Get Brexit done" and it worked. As someone points out in the replies, the Tories have the same problem any long term incumbent has when it comes to proposing new policies people immediately ask if it's such a great idea why haven't they done it already? Get Brexit done finished in 2019, and the levelling up has failed massively. But instead of trying to relaunch it, Sunak wants to raid the pot for national service. You can't actually make this shit up. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2024 9:20:43 GMT
I blame the sun reader and Hummus supporter ^…right on time .😁 I'm on this forum for entertainment. We might get to July 4th without me splitting my sides. Some random capitals and dropped aitches will elp. |
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