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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 9, 2024 10:28:54 GMT
Here is an example where the complex polarity switch in a storm cloud is thrown … and all the heavy ice drops out of the cloud in one co-ordinated mass … in an instant of a few minutes. Not the largest/heaviest ice lumps we’ve seen … but … arguably a fair example of rapid anti-gravity failure?
… or you can roll with just the official convection change explanation given at the end … ?? By which you mean "actual gravity working as it has always worked". FFS, this is hilarious. Someone should write a pilot episode for a comedy show called "Conspiracy-Drifter: One Man's Quest To Unify All Conspiracy Theories Ever (and make himself look an idiot in doing so)". All The Best |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 11, 2024 6:15:08 GMT
You critics here are completely missing the point of what science is … exploration, observation, … and above all fun. Start with a simple sketch on the back of a cigarette packet!  [Oh … and btw … science ‘fiction’ …. and Conspiracy Theory are very similar …. if it’s GOOD … and well researched …. it’s where FACTS reside in FUTURE TRUTH … only slow closed minds struggle to discover what is REAL … and catch up on what is out there]. Don’t you think it’s time our scientists fathomed out how to crack anti-gravity? … when the answer is up in the clouds …. and staring them in the face since Adam and Eve? … as usual …. gifted by Nature? … trying to fathom out the mystery of an anti-gravity heavy ice rock suspension system largely ignored by science … but not aircraft that collide with the huge heavy ice balls at thousands of feet … A natural polarity mechanism that builds and increasingly creates stronger levitation … but suddenly drops thousands of tons of high density material (water/ice) through layers of lower density cold/warmair … at the flip of some switch … a ground discharge …. or failure in the circular forcefield to maintain it’s integrity. What has happened to the gravity effect while this convection exchange of warm/cold air generates an electrostatic system? It was somehow nullified. +++++++++++++++ BTW … still awaiting ProVeritas’s explanation how TIME can have physical properties of elasticity … when it is human conceptual in nature? … like SPACETIME. . … and STILL WAITING for Vinny’s translation of the Hawking equation he dropped? …. why can’t you two answer the simplest of questions? ++++++++++++++ Maybe you should know that those beings that first cracked the anti-gravity issue … created the template for our-God-belief Systems …. and there is more evidence of their physical existence … than the Universe having a conceptual start and an end … and TIME being more than an idea. Evidence of a Big Bang and Universe expansionism … isn’t proof this was anywhere near the start of anything … especially TIME. We need to nurture the idea the physical Universe ALWAYS existed …but was expanded on and engineered by higher intelligences than we can imagine. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 11, 2024 6:52:42 GMT
Time equals distance over speed. Basic physics.
Back at the beginning of our known universe there was a singularity which exploded.
The expansion of the universe away from the singularity gives us a reference of time.
The travel of light from our sun gives us a reference of time.
Time is a reference of movement.
The entire universe is in motion.
Even if it were possible to head from our planet to planet Vulcan, and get there in hours, there's still the matter of the coordinates constantly changing both from point of origin and destination.
There's still the matter of having enough energy to get there, there's the matter of steering, the matter of stopping and the matter of radiation.
You have a belief.
You have no evidence, or idea of what physics is about.
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 11, 2024 7:52:44 GMT
You critics here are completely missing the point of what science is … exploration, observation, … and above all fun. No, science is: question, hypothesis, observe / experiment to collect data, confirmation or denial of hypothesis. But above all science is both demonstrable and repeatable; oh, and subject to peer review. You have none of that so far. All The Best |
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Post by Orac on Jun 11, 2024 8:18:02 GMT
IMHO It would be better to have a conversation about the ideas, rather than just waving about the term 'peer review' ad-infinitum
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Post by Vinny on Jun 11, 2024 8:45:11 GMT
There was a scientific theory in the early 2000's about electromagnetic propulsion in a vacuum using microwaves.
Prototype drives were made and tested both at NASA and at Dresden.
Despite some false positives at both test sites, it was concluded that the tech does not work.
An important thing with science is testing, not bluster.
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 11, 2024 9:42:32 GMT
IMHO It would be better to have a conversation about the ideas, rather than just waving about the term 'peer review' ad-infinitum So when talking about, alleged, science we should abandon a cornerstone of scientific rigour? Why? To stop some snowflake feeling being hurt? The next time Dub posts some genuine science I'll have a look. But genuine science is subject to peer review, not youtube fantasies. All The Best |
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Post by Orac on Jun 11, 2024 9:49:38 GMT
An important thing with science is testing, not bluster. But this isn't a science lab, it's a discussion forum - and you just keep repeating the same thing. We can take it read that the current state of science and engineering has no realistic means of achieving interstellar travel |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 11, 2024 10:37:42 GMT
Dubdrifter is not discussing, he is spamming the forum with youtube nonsense, bitshit nonsense etc, and then squealing "deep state" when anyone challenges him for evidence or starts discussing the rubbish he believes in.
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 11, 2024 13:05:23 GMT
An important thing with science is testing, not bluster. But this isn't a science lab, it's a discussion forum - and you just keep repeating the same thing. We can take it read that the current state of science and engineering has no realistic means of achieving interstellar travel FFS Dub posted a YouTube video of hailstones falling to earth, a cited it as evidence of "failed anti gravity"!! That is NOT discussion - it IS delusion. All The Best |
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Post by Orac on Jun 11, 2024 13:17:07 GMT
But this isn't a science lab, it's a discussion forum - and you just keep repeating the same thing. We can take it read that the current state of science and engineering has no realistic means of achieving interstellar travel FFS Dub posted a YouTube video of hailstones falling to earth, a cited it as evidence of "failed anti gravity"!! this is the sort of place all good science starts |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 11, 2024 13:21:05 GMT
FFS Dub posted a YouTube video of hailstones falling to earth, a cited it as evidence of "failed anti gravity"!! this is the sort of place all good science starts Fuck me, you are as delusional as Dubs. That is not even bad science - it is utter lunacy. That video was NOT evidence of "failed anti gravity". It WAS evidence of gravity. All The Best |
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Post by Orac on Jun 11, 2024 13:39:07 GMT
this is the sort of place all good science starts Fuck me, you are as delusional as Dubs. That is not even bad science - it is utter lunacy. Hypothesis? Is it not in your dictionary? Do you remember when they worked out that Covid 19 didn't come from China because Donald Trump said it did? Science is odd stuff |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 12, 2024 5:48:00 GMT
Even Dub has gone quiet now. Has he realised how wrong he is or just gone back to bitshit for more programming?
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 12, 2024 9:48:06 GMT
[This Forum isn’t my retirement day job … or No.1 priority in Life …. I have a good friend down for a few days … so you are going to have to be slightly patient for a reply on occasions] . You critics here are completely missing the point of what science is … exploration, observation, … and above all fun. No, science is: question, hypothesis, observe / experiment to collect data, confirmation or denial of hypothesis. But above all science is both demonstrable and repeatable; oh, and subject to peer review. You have none of that so far. All The Best Isn’t that what we are doing here now? …. the question was in the title and OP … the hypothesis was “are these things possible?” … my addition was “do UFO’s get their anti-gravity principles from natural weather systems?” An observable and repeatable phenomena … if scientists just open their eyes … continue experimenting and unify to pushing the data towards the respected peer-review level. …. which is what the Disclosure Project is all about … if only respected scientists would just get off their lazy prissy arses and get ‘stuck into the data’. … step into the ‘unknown’ and to HELL with their stupid prissy reputations! Here - it’s just a discussion …. we are not dropping stuff for even lite-weight peer-review … nothing here is being wrapped up in the foreign language of complex mathematical equations … ….. HOWEVER … if that is your forte … go for it … and disprove my weather levitation hypothesis … but only after the experiment phase … which is still to come. ( Is this an original idea? … nah!, I doubt it! … vimanas have been around for a VERY LONG TIME … it’s just the ‘connection’ between the two systems that has been likely obscured and ignored for far too long.) If you want to ignore suppression of data … that’s entirely up to you … hide evidence of bullied, censored and murdered pioneer scientists - keen to share their anti-gravity/inter-dimensional findings in a peer-review process. …. Brave people who didn’t want a criminal Movement to create a bi-polar science environment … a war-mongering rogue state within the U.S.A. and Israel that wants to use their tech advantage for World Domination …. … it’s not a very bright thing to do … this censorship and suppression and misery inflicted on others may pay oppressors wages and likely feeds many CIA/Mossad families … but humane people need to think of the bigger picture … stepping out of our miserable 2,000 year Religious manipulative Matrix. So … let’s Spread the Knowledge … so we can EVOLVE beyond being just continued ‘alien slave fodder farmers and abduction entertainment/experimentation’ … for a small handful of really EVIL inter-galactic truck stop alien jerk-offs and greedy homegrown totalitarians. There was a scientific theory in the early 2000's about electromagnetic propulsion in a vacuum using microwaves. Prototype drives were made and tested both at NASA and at Dresden. Despite some false positives at both test sites, it was concluded that the tech does not work. An important thing with science is testing, not bluster. Totally agree … so drop the evidence and explanation why this failed … when the ‘other lot’ were already testing and flying prototype anti-gravity devices well before the 1990’s??  A picture is worth a thousand words … A researcher discovered the Harrier here was privately owned by BAE … and likely flew from either Warton or Filton , UK in the 1990’s providing ‘testing escort duties’. A number of Marconi/West Country top scientists(whistleblowers?) sadly ‘died’ from mysterious accidents/CIA-style suicides … in the 80’s/90’s IMHO It would be better to have a conversation about the ideas, rather than just waving about the term 'peer review' ad-infinitum So when talking about, alleged, science we should abandon a cornerstone of scientific rigour? Why? To stop some snowflake feeling being hurt? The next time Dub posts some genuine science I'll have a look. But genuine science is subject to peer review, not youtube fantasies. All The Best Nobody is remotely bothered if people like you cannot be arsed to review evidence dropped here … and scientists are not interested in stepping out of their cosy lab comfort zones … to study the hidden evidence …. Disclosure details. Some scientists will continue to flounder in the intellectual wilderness … because they fell at the first hurdle … ‘REAL WORLD observation’ … especially since WW2 … But this isn't a science lab, it's a discussion forum - and you just keep repeating the same thing. We can take it read that the current state of science and engineering has no realistic means of achieving interstellar travel FFS Dub posted a YouTube video of hailstones falling to earth, a cited it as evidence of "failed anti gravity"!! That is NOT discussion - it IS delusion. All The Best I didn’t say it was “failed gravity” … if something defies gravity …and gravity (whatever that is) is all around an object … (be it a 2lb multi-layered, long gestation period hailstone or a UFO) … it’s clearly been isolated totally in some way from the ‘reality’ of that environment and it’s forces … for the instance it remains suspended. … maybe it is ‘hanging in a local conglomeration of Dark Matter’?? Maybe certain particles in concentrated flows around electromagnetic fields can create ‘vacuums of Dark Matter’ around an object?? … If one ups the power considerably … maybe one gets suspension around which our physical Universe flows. … until the field dynamic or dynamo is broken … shift the direction of the ufo drive system … and you get v.rapid propulsion through the wormhole … with zero harmful radiation effects … and I theorise from a real Helioviewer observation of a teleport event I made personally … …. that energy requirements are very low indeed. (Note: gone without a flash … no radiation left behind …AND no vast amounts of sun energy utilised!) ++++++++++++++++++ Meanwhile …. Natural weather systems likely display a mild transient SIMPLE levitational/anti-gravity effect … that scientists have largely ignored … and possibly mis-interpreted?? |
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