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Post by witchfinder on May 14, 2024 20:56:42 GMT
Interesting post by Dubdrifter
Especially when you consider that amongst MANY Labour Party supporters ( particularly those of the hard Left ), enemy Number 1 within the BBC is no other than Laura Kuenssberg.
She is widely considered to be a Tory, Right Wing, Biased, Anti Labour
There is a valid counter-argument as to why the BBC does not describe organisations how any government says they should describe them, and its called impartiality.
The BBC (radio) has more listners in India than it does here in the UK, and probably as many listners to BBC News in places such as Nigeria and Kenya as it does in the UK.
The BBC has the same policy whether broadcasting in India, the United States, Nigeria or Kenya, and Assamese Separatist groups are refered to as "Assamese Separatist Groups", but some of those groups are Proscribed by the government of India.
I personaly believe Hamas IS a terrorist organisation, but I do not accept that the BBC must call any organisation "terrorists" because the government says that they have to, its a line that the government must not cross, there must be no interference in the BBC s editorial independence. You have to understand that the BBC is NOT the official voice of the British government, it is the voice of Britain, Britain the state, its people and culture.
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Post by Totheleft on May 14, 2024 22:02:17 GMT
Because the Yanks have said they must lower civilian casualties otherwise like normal they wouldn't give a flying one. so there isn't a genocide going on?.. Displacement of a Society from there home land is Grenoside
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Post by Totheleft on May 14, 2024 22:08:40 GMT
If you want to commit genocide you dont tell civilians to move out of the way. If any people know about Genocide it is the Jews, Yes long history of it going back to the persion empire. That's why I'm surprised there practicing it in Modern war fare .
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Post by jonksy on May 14, 2024 22:17:10 GMT
so there isn't a genocide going on?.. Displacement of a Society from there home land is Grenoside Total bollocks lefty old bean.....It clearly shows to the rest of us that you know jack shit about genocide.
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Post by Totheleft on May 14, 2024 22:31:49 GMT
Displacement of a Society from there home land is Grenoside Total bollocks lefty old bean.....It clearly shows to the rest of us that you know jack shit about genocide. The Political Instability Task Force estimated that 43 genocides occurred between 1956 and 2016, resulting in about 50 million deaths.The UNHCR estimated that a further 50 million had been displaced by such episodes of violence up to 2008. Genocide, especially large-scale genocide, is widely considered to signify the epitome of human evil. Genocide has been referred to as the "crime of crimes".
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Post by jonksy on May 15, 2024 2:10:56 GMT
Total bollocks lefty old bean.....It clearly shows to the rest of us that you know jack shit about genocide. The Political Instability Task Force estimated that 43 genocides occurred between 1956 and 2016, resulting in about 50 million deaths.The UNHCR estimated that a further 50 million had been displaced by such episodes of violence up to 2008. Genocide, especially large-scale genocide, is widely considered to signify the epitome of human evil. Genocide has been referred to as the "crime of crimes". What a pity you do not understand what you read lefty old bean...
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Post by Totheleft on May 15, 2024 5:17:56 GMT
Just to make it simpler for you jonsky.
I knew it was to much for you to take in .
UNHCR estimated that a further 50 million had been displaced by such episodes of violence up to 2008
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Post by Pacifico on May 15, 2024 6:54:16 GMT
so there isn't a genocide going on?.. Displacement of a Society from there home land is Grenoside No it is not - the Genocide Convention states: ... any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
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Post by Tinculin on May 15, 2024 7:19:09 GMT
so there isn't a genocide going on?.. Displacement of a Society from there home land is Grenoside Just so we’re all using the correct terms, you’re describing ethnic cleansing, not genocide.
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Post by sandypine on May 15, 2024 8:17:43 GMT
Interesting post by DubdrifterEspecially when you consider that amongst MANY Labour Party supporters ( particularly those of the hard Left ), enemy Number 1 within the BBC is no other than Laura Kuenssberg. She is widely considered to be a Tory, Right Wing, Biased, Anti Labour There is a valid counter-argument as to why the BBC does not describe organisations how any government says they should describe them, and its called impartiality. The BBC (radio) has more listners in India than it does here in the UK, and probably as many listners to BBC News in places such as Nigeria and Kenya as it does in the UK. The BBC has the same policy whether broadcasting in India, the United States, Nigeria or Kenya, and Assamese Separatist groups are refered to as "Assamese Separatist Groups", but some of those groups are Proscribed by the government of India. I personaly believe Hamas IS a terrorist organisation, but I do not accept that the BBC must call any organisation "terrorists" because the government says that they have to, its a line that the government must not cross, there must be no interference in the BBC s editorial independence. You have to understand that the BBC is NOT the official voice of the British government, it is the voice of Britain, Britain the state, its people and culture. Why would they call groups and political parties far-right, or anti-immigrant or populist when subjected to pressure by the journalistic unions or sometimes just as a loose comment if they are so concerned with editorial impartiality as their guiding principle. It seems that 'impartiality' has partial boundaries and that is a concern.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2024 8:18:28 GMT
This sounds like what the corrupt councils/local government did to most of London and other areas of the country.
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Post by Totheleft on May 15, 2024 15:02:47 GMT
Displacement of a Society from there home land is Grenoside No it is not - the Genocide Convention states: ... any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. So Israel has committed 3 in that list A-C. Plus ethnic Cleansing has confirmed by Titnch.
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Post by jonksy on May 15, 2024 15:08:16 GMT
No it is not - the Genocide Convention states: ... any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. So Israel has committed 3 in that list A-C. Plus ethnic Cleansing has confirmed by Titnch. Poor old lefty no mates doesn't even know the difference between ethnic cleansing and genocide.....You have had it explained to you enough times lefty old bean and still you state the same old bullshit..
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Post by Pacifico on May 15, 2024 17:13:52 GMT
No it is not - the Genocide Convention states: ... any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. So Israel has committed 3 in that list A-C. Plus ethnic Cleansing has confirmed by Titnch. So have the Palestinians - therefore best we keep out of it and leave them to get on with it themselves.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2024 18:18:15 GMT
No it is not - the Genocide Convention states: ... any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. So Israel has committed 3 in that list A-C. Plus ethnic Cleansing has confirmed by Titnch. Please write English - then we can better consider your claims of Grenoside. As a matter of interest, the Israelis also shot 3 Jewish hostages in a grave error and have killed their own soldiers by so-called friendly fire. Now, if they had nuked Gaza on 7th October, you might have had a genocide argument, but they didn't.
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