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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2024 18:25:26 GMT
(snipped) Transport Secretary Mark Harper confirmed that the Government would adopt the amendment to the Criminal Justice Bill, which is currently making its way through Parliament. He said: “Most cyclists, like most drivers, are responsible and considerate. But it’s only right that the tiny minority who recklessly disregard others face the full weight of the law for doing so. As sensible idea IMHO Sensible, if only it could easily be applied.
But currently there's no way of identifying a cycle, unlike powered vehicles. Coupled with the lack of application of the laws given in the Highway Code, any legislation like this is likely only to prove helpful as a bit of a vote catcher...
Cycles don't normally commit offences. The rider might - should they carry an ID card? |
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Post by Handyman on May 17, 2024 6:03:18 GMT
(snipped) Transport Secretary Mark Harper confirmed that the Government would adopt the amendment to the Criminal Justice Bill, which is currently making its way through Parliament. He said: “Most cyclists, like most drivers, are responsible and considerate. But it’s only right that the tiny minority who recklessly disregard others face the full weight of the law for doing so. As sensible idea IMHO Sensible, if only it could easily be applied.
But currently there's no way of identifying a cycle, unlike powered vehicles. Coupled with the lack of application of the laws given in the Highway Code, any legislation like this is likely only to prove helpful as a bit of a vote catcher...
"Hawaii residents need to register their traditional and electric bicycles, but they are not required to have a licence," the group told us. Permanent registration costs $15 and is applicable for anyone aged 18 or over. Bikes registered in another state do not need to be registered again in Hawaii. "Several cities in Northern California have them, and many places in Florida require bike registrations. Australia did consider number plates on cycles but decided not too, instead they have heavy fines in place for cyclists that breach the rules of the road |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 17, 2024 10:36:49 GMT
Also, I feel Cyclists - as road users - should have some form "vehicle insurance" in place... Most sensible ones do, Nulla. |
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Post by patman post on May 17, 2024 13:12:37 GMT
Sensible, if only it could easily be applied.
But currently there's no way of identifying a cycle, unlike powered vehicles. Coupled with the lack of application of the laws given in the Highway Code, any legislation like this is likely only to prove helpful as a bit of a vote catcher...
Cycles don't normally commit offences. The rider might - should they carry an ID card? Can't the same be said of motor vehicles and drivers...? |
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Post by patman post on May 17, 2024 13:14:54 GMT
Also, I feel Cyclists - as road users - should have some form "vehicle insurance" in place... Most sensible ones do, Nulla. Insurance covering third party damage, or just cycle theft...? |
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Post by patman post on May 17, 2024 13:27:15 GMT
Sensible, if only it could easily be applied.
But currently there's no way of identifying a cycle, unlike powered vehicles. Coupled with the lack of application of the laws given in the Highway Code, any legislation like this is likely only to prove helpful as a bit of a vote catcher...
"Hawaii residents need to register their traditional and electric bicycles, but they are not required to have a licence," the group told us. Permanent registration costs $15 and is applicable for anyone aged 18 or over. Bikes registered in another state do not need to be registered again in Hawaii. "Several cities in Northern California have them, and many places in Florida require bike registrations. Australia did consider number plates on cycles but decided not too, instead they have heavy fines in place for cyclists that breach the rules of the road I don't see how registering a bike that doesn't require some form of readable identification will help. Chipped bikes and a chip reader operating at traffic lights when they are red would be a start.
The main problems I personally have round here are: ° being hit by cyclists riding along a No-Cycling alleyway, ° cyclists banging into me while I'm using a traffic light-controlled crossing, ° and cyclists sitting on my nearside at traffic lights while I'm indicating I'm turning left... |
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Post by Handyman on May 17, 2024 15:28:23 GMT
"Hawaii residents need to register their traditional and electric bicycles, but they are not required to have a licence," the group told us. Permanent registration costs $15 and is applicable for anyone aged 18 or over. Bikes registered in another state do not need to be registered again in Hawaii. "Several cities in Northern California have them, and many places in Florida require bike registrations. Australia did consider number plates on cycles but decided not too, instead they have heavy fines in place for cyclists that breach the rules of the road I don't see how registering a bike that doesn't require some form of readable identification will help. Chipped bikes and a chip reader operating at traffic lights when they are red would be a start.
The main problems I personally have round here are: ° being hit by cyclists riding along a No-Cycling alleyway, ° cyclists banging into me while I'm using a traffic light-controlled crossing, ° and cyclists sitting on my nearside at traffic lights while I'm indicating I'm turning left... According to the internet the bicycles in California do have number plates, |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 17, 2024 15:42:39 GMT
Most sensible ones do, Nulla. Insurance covering third party damage, or just cycle theft...? Most cycle policies now cover both. |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 17, 2024 16:47:11 GMT
Also, I feel Cyclists - as road users - should have some form "vehicle insurance" in place... Most sensible ones do, Nulla. Yes, they have insurance for their bike. Many do not have insurance to cover personal harm they may cause. All The Best |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 17, 2024 18:49:35 GMT
Yes, NullaVeritas. As I said, the sensible ones do.
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Post by ProVeritas on May 17, 2024 20:15:32 GMT
Yes, NullaVeritas. As I said, the sensible ones do. Anything you say Pimple. Though not at all sure why anyone of sound mind would believe anything you say. All The Best |
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Post by patman post on May 17, 2024 20:45:31 GMT
Insurance covering third party damage, or just cycle theft...? Most cycle policies now cover both. What percentage of bike riders are sensible, and what percentage of sensible bike riders other to insure for third party injury and damage…? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 17, 2024 22:44:45 GMT
Yes, NullaVeritas. As I said, the sensible ones do. Anything you say Pimple. Though not at all sure why anyone of sound mind would believe anything you say. All The Best Probably because the criteria of sound mind would disqualify you. And most lefties, come to mench.😉 |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 17, 2024 22:48:28 GMT
Most cycle policies now cover both. What percentage of bike riders are sensible, and what percentage of sensible bike riders other to insure for third party injury and damage…? No idea, Patsy. But I do know several keen cyclists who have third party insurance and I gather it's not uncommon these days. And in these litigious times one would be daft not too, given the utter lack of road sense displayed by the average pedestrian. |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 17, 2024 23:16:27 GMT
What percentage of bike riders are sensible, and what percentage of sensible bike riders other to insure for third party injury and damage…? No idea, Patsy. But I do know several keen cyclists who have third party insurance and I gather it's not uncommon these days. And in these litigious times one would be daft not too, given the utter lack of road sense displayed by the average pedestrian.Or the lack of pedestrian sense displayed by the average cyclist. All The Best |
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