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Post by see2 on May 9, 2024 18:01:40 GMT
We don't need a crystal ball fiddles to see how bad it will be under starmer and his crew. just look across the border into Wales - the blueprint for a Labour Government in Westminster.. That lie has already been rebutted ON THIS FORUM.
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Post by see2 on May 9, 2024 18:02:44 GMT
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Post by see2 on May 9, 2024 18:05:22 GMT
Annabel Denham writes today on her vision of a prospective Labour Government, I find myself in agreement, Of all the peculiarities of Natalie Elphicke’s defection to Labour, perhaps none is as curious as her insistence that Labour occupy the “centre-ground”.
Though the received wisdom is that Keir Starmer is a harmless moderate, there is little evidence to back it up. As recently as 2020, the Labour leader promised to “make the moral case for socialism”.
His shadow chancellor, Rachel Reeves, intends to “rebalance between market forces and state control, tipping more power towards the latter”, and believes Nigel Lawson was “wrong not only in application but in theory”.
And his shadow climate secretary, Ed Miliband, believes we can power a nation of nearly 70 million people on energy which can disappear completely for days at a time.
What we know of the agenda is no less terrifying than the views of those peddling it. Miliband last week confirmed that Labour will introduce new net zero laws forcing big companies and banks to limit their carbon footprint.
Nevermind that Britain’s top businesses are already regulated to within an inch of their lives – the financial sector in particular.
Many businesses will have thousands of suppliers – how can they ensure all are reporting accurately? It’s a colossal task which will unproductively employ hundreds of people in big firms and countless more bureaucrats collating and checking data.
And quite what Labour means when they say we need a “proper” windfall tax on oil and gas companies when they already face a marginal tax rate of 75pc is a mystery.
Domestic investment has already been driven away, and that’s before Labour imposes a ban on new drilling. This is the income stream on which the party’s National Wealth Fund, to “rebuild [our] industrial strength” will in part be based. In what world won’t bills go up?
There will also be a “boiler tax”, even though the Tory experiment in the idea saw manufacturers raising prices to cover the fines they knew they would have to pay. And a 2030 ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars, brought forward from 2035, that will have similar effects.
Meanwhile, dismayed though Angela Rayner may be by reports her “New Deal for Workers” will be watered down, Labour still intends to bring in an avalanche of new entitlements, ranging from the impractical (flexible working from day one) to the absurd (a “right to disconnect”).
Far from repealing the Equality Act – legislation introduced in 2010 to stamp out discrimination in the workplace, but which has instead disincentivised hiring and undermined the concept of meritocracy – Labour will double down with a Race Equality Act that will impose yet more monitoring requirements on businesses and expand the quasi-Marxist notion of “equal pay”.
This plan, according to one estimate, could deliver up to £26bn in extra pay to ethnic minority workers – a bill that would be paid by shareholders, other workers and taxpayers.
And though Starmer has announced a war on “Nimbyism”, committing Labour to building 1.5 million homes over five years in office, his party voted against Tory plans to scrap the nutrient neutrality rules which have prevented the construction of tens of thousands of houses.
What’s more, there can be little hope they will bring down net migration levels, which place significant pressure on the housing market.
It won’t stop there. Reeves has previously advocated an overhaul of council tax bands – a move that could cost households an average of £1,200 a year – and wants to make “tech giants pay their fair share”.
Labour will end so-called “no fault evictions”, preventing landlords from, quite reasonably, reclaiming their property after an agreed period of time. Starmer will renationalise rail – at great expense to the taxpayer – yet has admitted there may be no reduction in fares.
The nation will be repeatedly held to ransom by overmighty unions demanding pay rises that far outstrip those in the private sector in the name of “fairness”.
The party might not have a shadow chancellor who will enthusiastically wield a well-thumbed copy of Mao’s “Little Red Book” anymore, but its key players appear to view success with suspicion and businesses as ethically dodgy.
Employees will be indulged at all times, their wellbeing prioritised over customers and clients. Unions will reign supreme, with strikes easier to organise and minimum service levels banned.
Our prosperity will be sacrificed on the altar of net zero.
Labour have a point when they hammer the Reagan question – “after 14 years of Tory government, do you feel richer?”
But under “red-green” socialist Keir Starmer, Britain must prepare to be much poorer. It may not be long before voters regret their apathy – or desire to punish Rishi Sunak’s Tories for their ineptitude – and clamour for the “centre-ground” they so relentlessly pursued. Annabel Denham from the Torygraph. Her comments are a good example of the deceitfulness of Conservative propaganda.
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Post by Pacifico on May 9, 2024 21:20:38 GMT
just look across the border into Wales - the blueprint for a Labour Government in Westminster.. That lie has already been rebutted ON THIS FORUM. Er - it's a direct quote from your dear leader...
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Post by patman post on May 9, 2024 21:31:32 GMT
One poll this morning put Labour 30 points ahead — isn’t that more than Blair managed in his and Brown’s chase for power?
In my view, people are fed up with feeling worse off under Tory rule and the strains they see, and hear about, Brexit putting on the economy.
Upsets happen — but I really don’t see the Tories back, or even a hung Parliament…
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 9, 2024 22:01:36 GMT
One poll this morning put Labour 30 points ahead — isn’t that more than Blair managed in his and Brown’s chase for power? In my view, people are fed up with feeling worse off under Tory rule and the strains they see, and hear about, Brexit putting on the economy. Upsets happen — but I really don’t see the Tories back, or even a hung Parliament… I suspect that people will soon be feeling a whole lot worse off under Labour.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2024 22:10:34 GMT
One poll this morning put Labour 30 points ahead — isn’t that more than Blair managed in his and Brown’s chase for power? In my view, people are fed up with feeling worse off under Tory rule and the strains they see, and hear about, Brexit putting on the economy. Upsets happen — but I really don’t see the Tories back, or even a hung Parliament… I suspect that people will soon be feeling a whole lot worse off under Labour. I'd say it's guaranteed. He's basically repeating the same leftist doctrine which was screamed when Thatcher was around so I question the claim that it's his view. At least she was actually against irresponsible spending unlike the current government. The people are in for a shock under Starmer's Labour if they think they can perform magic. It's literally going in the wrong direction, but sadly, everyone seems to want a handout thesedays.
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Post by jonksy on May 9, 2024 22:22:41 GMT
That lie has already been rebutted ON THIS FORUM. Er - it's a direct quote from your dear leader... Starmer points to Welsh Labour government as 'blueprint' for UK, at party conference...... link
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Post by jonksy on May 10, 2024 6:01:51 GMT
More of starmers total bullshit....That will only be relevant for a couple of days... Starmer will use terror laws to tackle migrant crossings with Europe......
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Post by Tinculin on May 10, 2024 8:58:55 GMT
14 years of a Tory government and let's be honest. culture wars are worse now than they were when they first came to office.
I share the same concern many have that the Labour party will completely capitulate in this area, but, given the Tories have had a huge majority in parliament for the past 14 years and despite saying alot, have done very little in this area, means to me at least, this is far from a Labour vs Tory issue, and something that politicians are either too scared to go near, or incompetent to action meaningful policy.
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Post by witchfinder on May 10, 2024 10:42:53 GMT
Today the opposition made some announcements on what is a top concern of British voters ( Top 5 concerns ), the problem of "The Small Boats".
The Rwanda Plan is first and foremost a gimmick, involving just 1% of asylum seekers, but worse than that, the costs involved are ridiculous, and most estimates put the figures at £1.8 MIllion per asylum seeker - based on the governments own numbers of 300, would mean a cost to the taxpayer of over half a Billion pounds.
Using some of this wasted money to create a "Border Security Command" with powers similar to those used in Counter Terrorism, and involving MI5, Immigration Enforcement and the Natioal Crime Agency makes more sense. Together with new laws which would allow those "suspected" of been involved in people smuggling to be arrested and questioned, and for their movements to be restricted and bank accounts closed down.
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Post by Pacifico on May 10, 2024 10:59:40 GMT
Somehow I just cannot see Labour cracking down on illegal immigration..
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Post by see2 on May 10, 2024 11:23:00 GMT
That lie has already been rebutted ON THIS FORUM. Er - it's a direct quote from your dear leader... ERR, when was it made, where was it made and why was it made. The answers to all of these has already been posted on this forum, probably to your very self. Your post is an example of using the truth to imply a lie.
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Post by see2 on May 10, 2024 11:25:25 GMT
Somehow I just cannot see Labour cracking down on illegal immigration.. Nothing to do with you not wanting to see?
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Post by jonksy on May 10, 2024 11:27:32 GMT
Er - it's a direct quote from your dear leader... ERR, when was it made, where was it made and why was it made. The answers to all of these has already been posted on this forum, probably to your very self. Your post is an example of using the truth to imply a lie. I gave you the link FFS.
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