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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 28, 2024 22:58:52 GMT
To all intents and purposes we have been a fully functioning democracy since 1708, and remain so. So why are you ignoring the reality? You mean the reality that no law can be added to the statute books unless the monarch grants Royal Assent. You mean the reality that the PM has to ask permission to dissolve Parliament from the Monarch. You mean the reality that no session of Parliament can form a Government without permission from the Monarch. Does that really sound like a Democracy to you? It didn't work out too well the last time they tried changing it, NullaVeritas. |
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Post by Bentley on May 28, 2024 23:23:47 GMT
I think PVs point is like a poster in 1997 banging on that you could be hung for treason and ignoring any comment that said it was so highly unlikely that it was a non point . They would e technically correct but in actuality wrong .
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Post by Totheleft on May 28, 2024 23:42:48 GMT
I think PVs point is like a poster in 1997 banging on that you could be hung for treason and ignoring any comment that said it was so highly unlikely that it was a non point . They would b3e technically correct but in actuality wrong l What b3e can you tell me I don't understand. |
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Post by see2 on May 29, 2024 3:55:19 GMT
I think PVs point is like a poster in 1997 banging on that you could be hung for treason and ignoring any comment that said it was so highly unlikely that it was a non point . They would b3e technically correct but in actuality wrong l What b3e can you tell me I don't understand. I think its a typo. i.e. catching the '3' while pressing the 'e'. |
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Post by see2 on May 29, 2024 3:59:43 GMT
It is all formality, and in no way alters the reality in my post that you replied to. The next time a post by you refers to reality will be the first. All The Best In your opinion, which just exposes your limitations. |
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Post by Totheleft on May 29, 2024 5:37:47 GMT
What b3e can you tell me I don't understand. I think its a typo. i.e. catching the '3' while pressing the 'e'. I never get a way with typo by the Clown |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 29, 2024 8:46:16 GMT
Irony Overload Alert Not the pertinent point, nor was it ever the point I was making. The actual point where Democracy fails, and the actual point I was making is: The Monarch CAN interfere if it wants to, and there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING we can do to stop it. But hey, way to miss the actual point, as usual. All The Best This is your claim, but you have no proof of this. Yes I do: Constitutional Law. The Monarch has the right to deny Royal Assent. There is no Legal route to take to overcome that denial. Do keep up; even the people who disagree with me have admitted that legally I have stated the position correctly. All The Best |
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Post by Orac on May 29, 2024 9:00:44 GMT
This is your claim, but you have no proof of this. Yes I do: Constitutional Law. The Monarch has the right to deny Royal Assent. There is no Legal route to take to overcome that denial. at that point the system can be said to have broken down. It's a crisis. In a constitutional monarchy, a caretaker administration might be appointed to do an orderly transition. In many other systems you just end with chaos All systems have edges - ie scenarios that are off the legal map. In the case of a constitutional monarchy, the legal map is just a big bigger. |
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2024 9:23:47 GMT
I think its a typo. i.e. catching the '3' while pressing the 'e'. I never get a way with typo by the Clown Your illegible drivel posts are not typos doofus . |
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Post by Totheleft on May 29, 2024 9:25:16 GMT
I never get a way with typo by the Clown Your illegible drivel posts are not typos doofus . Some are |
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2024 9:32:59 GMT
Your illegible drivel posts are not typos doofus . Some are Trouble is , your posts are all illegible drivel so it’s impossible to tell. Doofus . |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 29, 2024 9:59:51 GMT
Yes I do: Constitutional Law. The Monarch has the right to deny Royal Assent. There is no Legal route to take to overcome that denial. at that point the system can be said to have broken down. It's a crisis. In a constitutional monarchy, a caretaker administration might be appointed to do an orderly transition. In many other systems you just end with chaos All systems have edges - ie scenarios that are off the legal map. In the case of a constitutional monarchy, the legal map is just a big bigger. Not sure why you are trying to prove me wrong. You've just admitted we are a Constitutional Monarchy; we can NOT also be a Democracy. All The Best |
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Post by Orac on May 29, 2024 10:08:21 GMT
at that point the system can be said to have broken down. It's a crisis. In a constitutional monarchy, a caretaker administration might be appointed to do an orderly transition. In many other systems you just end with chaos All systems have edges - ie scenarios that are off the legal map. In the case of a constitutional monarchy, the legal map is just a big bigger. Not sure why you are trying to prove me wrong. You've just admitted we are a Constitutional Monarchy; we can NOT also be a Democracy. All The Best You are really just waving words around and not paying attention. It's all academic if you are talking about the edges of a system or things of the map of normal function. Something that has the trappings of a democracy can effectively be a dictatorship and something that has dictatorship like elements can be run democratically. |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 29, 2024 10:32:33 GMT
Not sure why you are trying to prove me wrong. You've just admitted we are a Constitutional Monarchy; we can NOT also be a Democracy. All The Best You are really just waving words around and not paying attention. It's all academic if you are talking about the edges of a system or things of the map of normal function. Something that has the trappings of a democracy can effectively be a dictatorship and something that has dictatorship like elements can be run democratically. I am NOT talking about the "edges of the system". I AM talking about the core, legal position as defined by the Constitution. All The Best |
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Post by Orac on May 29, 2024 11:23:25 GMT
You are really just waving words around and not paying attention. It's all academic if you are talking about the edges of a system or things of the map of normal function. Something that has the trappings of a democracy can effectively be a dictatorship and something that has dictatorship like elements can be run democratically. I am NOT talking about the "edges of the system". Yes you are - you are talking about our monarch refusing the legislation of his government. |
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