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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 23, 2022 15:44:10 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 23, 2022 15:47:36 GMT
Remind us all again, how well are Labour doing?
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Post by Handyman on Nov 23, 2022 15:53:04 GMT
They have not been doing anything well for years, that is why they are not in power again
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 23, 2022 15:58:20 GMT
They have not been doing anything well for years, that is why they are not in power again Exactly.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 23, 2022 16:28:41 GMT
Government n have not been doing anything well for years, that is why they are not in power again Yea they will be again under a new labour Government remmember what happend to the torieslast time that happend
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Post by sandypine on Nov 23, 2022 16:57:37 GMT
Government n have not been doing anything well for years, that is why they are not in power again Yea they will be again under a new labour Government remmember what happend to the torieslast time that happend I think the electorate are desperately seeking alternatives. I last voted Labour in 2005 and regretted it pretty soon afterwards and vowed never to vote Labour again. I voted Tory I think in both 2010 and 2019 and I cannot remember if I voted in 2015, I may have voted Tory for the referendum but my memory fails me and in this seat there was usually little choice. SNP (no), Labour (done that) Tory (new vow never to vote Tory again). Never a better time to bring a new party on.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 23, 2022 17:08:13 GMT
What you mean lib dems or the Greens
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Post by Handyman on Nov 23, 2022 18:38:04 GMT
Yea they will be again under a new labour Government remmember what happend to the torieslast time that happend I think the electorate are desperately seeking alternatives. I last voted Labour in 2005 and regretted it pretty soon afterwards and vowed never to vote Labour again. I voted Tory I think in both 2010 and 2019 and I cannot remember if I voted in 2015, I may have voted Tory for the referendum but my memory fails me and in this seat there was usually little choice. SNP (no), Labour (done that) Tory (new vow never to vote Tory again). Never a better time to bring a new party on. So am I but there is not another Party that is viable at the moment to vote for me anyway
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Post by dappy on Nov 23, 2022 23:25:18 GMT
I keep hearing about need for a “new party” on here despite the existence of Reform, UKIP, Heritage, For Britain, Reclaim (still going?) English Democrats , BNP (still going?) SDP, CDA, the Judean peoples front and the Peoples from of Judea and I imagine some more I have forgotten. All seem to be much of a muchness all serving the Trussian Libertarian Populist Racist fringe. Surely there must be one in there you can choose without forming the Front for the Judean people?
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Post by dodgydave on Nov 24, 2022 3:09:02 GMT
I am not surprised that so many are thinking about stepping down.
Who would be a politician? Toxic media, toxic opposition, toxic social media, 80-hour weeks, away from family most of the week, zero respect from the public, deaths threats...
Tbh I am looking forward to a Labour government because they are going to reap that they have sowed... ie crucified by the media.
UK politics is about to change, PR is about to be thrust upon us and the Tories and Labour will die.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 25, 2022 15:15:26 GMT
Remind us all again, how well are Labour doing? Starmer now says he is against immigration.
This is on top of the one a while back where he says he is against unions striking.
In other words Labour under Starmer are shaking off their unelectable clothes. Perhaps one day he will go for the hat trick and state he is not woke either.
Anyway, to me it looks like strategic positioning in the centre. I listened to the both of them at the CBI conference. Sunak said a big fat nothing in an hour of shit talking. Starmer on the other hand had a plan to upskill British workers. He's thinking of a high skill, high tech economy. It is what is needed, who knows if he can deliver it, but the Sunak was totally without ideas. He's biding his time. Better a man with a plan than one without a plan.
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 25, 2022 15:40:26 GMT
Remind us all again, how well are Labour doing? Starmer now says he is against immigration.
This is on top of the one a while back where he says he is against unions striking.
In other words Labour under Starmer are shaking off their unelectable clothes. Perhaps one day he will go for the hat trick and state he is not woke either.
Anyway, to me it looks like strategic positioning in the centre. I listened to the both of them at the CBI conference. Sunak said a big fat nothing in an hour of shit talking. Starmer on the other hand had a plan to upskill British workers. He's thinking of a high skill, high tech economy. It is what is needed, who knows if he can deliver it, but the Sunak was totally without ideas. He's biding his time. Better a man with a plan than one without a plan.
The problem with Labour they promise all things to all people, if it's a vote winner Starmer will go with it, if Starmer is actually saying he's going to control migration then it has to be a vote winner, he's just picking up what is making the Tories unpopular, if Starmer did get in to power he'd never mention cutting migration again, but this illegal migration is coming to ahead now, people are sick and tired of it, it's the difference is the Tories winning the next GE.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 25, 2022 16:22:33 GMT
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Post by Toreador on Nov 25, 2022 16:27:07 GMT
Only if he ever wins an election.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 25, 2022 16:43:11 GMT
What you mean lib dems or the Greens Certainly not.
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