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Post by morayloon on May 1, 2024 14:45:11 GMT
Andrew Neil was measured, concise and incisive throughout so I have to conclude both that you simply like to use the word “rant” to describe anything that you hear or read that is anti-Indy, particularly when you don’t have a credible response to come back with, and that you don’t actually understand what rant means. As for Lesley Riddoch’s response, it hardly touched on what Andrew Neil said never mind demolish ‘the “rubbish” that he had just spouted’. She did try to deny that his comments on our once top notch education system were correct but quickly crumbled and then agreed that he was right after all, but other than that she just did the usual parochial Indy stuff like rhyming off a few carefully selected specific points where Scotland is, on that isolated point alone, doing a bit better than England (why must Nats always talk about things in terms of comparison with England btw?) and then finished off with the normal vacuous Nat whinge about not having full power over everything. She completely ignored Neil’s front-end points about Nats using “Westminster” as a euphemism for England, that there is a strain of anti-Englishness within the SNP, and that the Nats whinge incessantly about the English despite them pouring bucketsful of gold down our throats. I used to quite admire Lesley Riddoch but of late she has become a bit of an irrelevant embarrassment. Of course you thought Neil was the bees knees! He was spouting the same "absolute rubbish" you spout. Riddoch put him in his place. But, then, I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't even listen to her rebuttal. Neil & his ilk pronounced the imminent death of the SNP and the Independence movement after the 2017 election. Well, that turned out well for him, didn't it. Despite all the goings on, SNP support seems to have flatlined at about 34%-36%. With a new leader in place, the Party might begin a revival. Support for Independence is at approx. 50%, so there is scope for SNP backing to grow. Why shouldn't we compare? Afterall, getting back into bed with rUK is what some, wrong thinking people, believe. It is for their benefit that a fair and true comparison is made. Wearealwaystoldby the PM and hisrabid Unionists that Scotland is badly run. It is for the good of everyone to know what is actually happening in England. Lesley dealt admirably with all aspects of Neil's rant. |
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Post by morayloon on May 1, 2024 14:48:56 GMT
I have provided the evidence. Check it out before opening your mouth You have provided pro indy bullshit and nothing more.... You have no room to talk. Given your response, it is rather obvious that you have not looked at the evidence? |
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Post by morayloon on May 1, 2024 15:00:56 GMT
Scotland isn’t treated equally because it is treated better. What part of there being no minimum period between referenda in Scotland don’t you get? And there is no methodology for determining the feeling of the majority in NI under the GFA therefore it comes down to being when the Secretary of State (essentially the UK government’ believes that a referendum is warranted - which is essentially the same as is the case with Scotland except that one is captured in the wording of an agreement whilst the other is an unwritten but nonetheless unavoidable constitutional obligation. Your utterances on Scotland get worse each time you post. |
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Post by jonksy on May 1, 2024 15:05:44 GMT
You have provided pro indy bullshit and nothing more.... You have no room to talk. Given your response, it is rather obvious that you have not looked at the evidence? You have provided no evidence FFS...And I have every room to talk when my taxes have been pissed up the wall by the STATS......We can all use the bullshit that we answered that earlier FFS. |
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Post by morayloon on May 1, 2024 15:49:15 GMT
You have no room to talk. Given your response, it is rather obvious that you have not looked at the evidence? You have provided no evidence FFS...And I have every room to talk when my taxes have been pissed up the wall by the STATS......We can all use the bullshit that we answered that earlier FFS. The only problem wit that is that I did. Rubbish! More to the point, my taxes have been totally wasted on HS2 and other vanity projects which do not benefit Scotland. |
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Post by jonksy on May 1, 2024 16:11:31 GMT
You have provided no evidence FFS...And I have every room to talk when my taxes have been pissed up the wall by the STATS......We can all use the bullshit that we answered that earlier FFS. Rubbish! More to the point, my taxes have been totally wasted on HS2 and other vanity projects which do not benefit Scotland. Then you will be able to link to it then....Your fucking taxs remain in Scotland FFS....And talking of vanity projects how's it going with the ships built in Scotland with painted on Portholes? Have you sold many yet?.....LOL LOL LOL.
EDIT......'Showbiz Sturgeon' spent nearly £50k on 'sham' launch of ferry with painted on windows
The cost included the installation of a covered stage, a sound system and free Saltires for a small flag-waving crowd who watched as the First Minister launched the unfinished vessel...
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Post by sandypine on May 1, 2024 16:25:11 GMT
Scotland isn’t treated equally because it is treated better. What part of there being no minimum period between referenda in Scotland don’t you get? And there is no methodology for determining the feeling of the majority in NI under the GFA therefore it comes down to being when the Secretary of State (essentially the UK government’ believes that a referendum is warranted - which is essentially the same as is the case with Scotland except that one is captured in the wording of an agreement whilst the other is an unwritten but nonetheless unavoidable constitutional obligation. Your utterances on Scotland get worse each time you post. I cannot see what was wrong with it, could you enlighten us please? |
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Post by om15 on May 1, 2024 16:43:56 GMT
Andrew Neil calmly outlined the absolute mess that Scotland has become under the administration of the SNP, he was accurate and put his case forward without any embellishment. Riddoch just shrilly denied the obvious and parroted the SNP line. It is now evident both the SNP and the case for independence are discredited and all you can hope for is that a competent administration can sort out your HNS, your potholes, your rat infestation and your education system.
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Post by sandypine on May 1, 2024 16:52:46 GMT
Andrew Neil calmly outlined the absolute mess that Scotland has become under the administration of the SNP, he was accurate and put his case forward without any embellishment. Riddoch just shrilly denied the obvious and parroted the SNP line. It is now evident both the SNP and the case for independence are discredited and all you can hope for is that a competent administration can sort out your HNS, your potholes, your rat infestation and your education system. Riddoch used to be really good when she had her own programme on BBC Radio Scotland at lunchtime with searching questioning and a refusal to allow people to dodge the issues. She seems to lose all direction and reason though when it comes to Nationalism. I suppose we all have our faults. |
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Post by om15 on May 1, 2024 17:16:19 GMT
Alison Pearson writes her thoughts on the now unemployed Ayatollah in the DT today, as always she sums up the bleak dangerous absurdity of Scottish politics at the moment, apologies for quoting the complete article but I wonder how Morayloon squares this with his own strange version of events, dismisses it as a rant I suppose.
As part of his pity pageant, Humza (you’ve only got) Yousaf (to blame) posted a photograph on Twitter of himself reading a bedtime story to his small daughter. The caption read: “Today of all days, remembering and being grateful for all the blessings I have in life.”
Nauseating. Does the departing First Minister of Scotland really think he was doing the right thing for little girls like his own by pursuing gender identity policies which, if the SNP had its warped way, would have allowed children to carry on taking puberty blockers before proceeding to mutilation? That’s the thing about the advocates of “progressive” politics like Nicola Sturgeon and Yousaf. They accuse anybody who dares to oppose them of racism, misogyny and homophobia, while being the worst, most authoritarian bigots going.
Kate Forbes, who came second to Humza in the leadership contest, is one senior SNP figure who deserves some credit for standing firm against Scotland’s appalling gender self-ID “reforms”, which would have allowed people to change their legally recognised sex faster than you can say, “Sorry, that rapist showing his willy in pink Lycra leggings really doesn’t belong in a women’s prison.”
Yet, since Yousaf stood down, it is Forbes, a member of the Free Church of Scotland, who has been under attack for being “socially conservative”. (Or reflecting the views of the majority of Scots still in possession of any moral sense, as it’s also known.)
Muslims are a minority group renowned for their social conservatism, but the SNP boys’ club had no difficulty electing a Muslim leader, even though Yousaf awkwardly skipped a key vote on gay marriage. (Anyone who thinks that was on purpose to avoid awkwardness within his gay-averse community is, of course, “white” and “racist”, which amount to the same thing in Yousaf’s chippy world view.)
You may recall that one of Yousaf’s first acts in office, after Sturgeon departed in a stinking cloud, was to organise a Muslim prayer session in Bute House. It was the opposite of inclusive. In fact, it looked very much like a defiant marking of territory by a man who gave a speech in the Scottish Parliament spitting contempt because so many senior positions in the country were held by white people. The fact that Scotland’s population is 95 per cent white need be no bar to spurious allegations of institutional racism. He loves a hate crime, does Humza.
The real prejudice here is against Forbes. She has committed the cardinal sin of being a Christian in oh-so-tolerant Scotland and is being called names so that any fresh bid she might be considering for the leadership is sabotaged. Actually, the SNP allows conscience votes, as other parties do, on matters such as abortion. And the Free Church’s stance on moral questions is nearly identical to, if not more liberal than, official Roman Catholic positions. Christianity, it seems, is the only “protected characteristic” that doesn’t count under the infamous Hate Crime Act (For the Protection of Humza Yousaf).
But who is the real danger to Scotland? To hold on to power, the SNP got into bed with the Scottish Greens, who give every appearance of being stark staring bonkers. Despite the fact that NHS England banned puberty blockers following the Cass Review, the Greens thought NHS Scotland should keep prescribing unproven drugs to vulnerable children. They also bitterly opposed the decision to suspend Scotland’s statutory 2030 goal to reduce carbon emissions by 75 per cent, even though the Climate Change Committee recently stated that the target was no longer credible.
When the SNP finally succumbed to reality and moved to suspend both puberty blockers and the 2030 emissions goal, the co-leader of the Greens, Lorna Slater, accused them of being “reactionary” because they had betrayed the marvellous, “progressive” politics that has done so much to make Scotland the basket case it is today. (On Tuesday, the broadcaster and proud Scot Andrew Neil damned the “Left-wing consensus” that has damaged his country in every department, from education to health.)
To be fair, Slater has clearly spent so much time on the moral high ground that her brain may have been deprived of oxygen. Another explanation is that the poor woman is Canadian. Her native land now being the world capital of woke woo-woo.
Astonishingly, all mainstream news bulletins on Monday night solemnly repeated an outlandishly biased version of events. The Greens, viewers were told, were upset by the “reactionary” SNP – actually the farthest Left party in the UK. Meanwhile, Forbes, she of the rather sensible economics reforms, was a dangerous conservative because she doesn’t believe you can turn boys into girls, or vice versa.
I am sick of reporters treating Left-wing ideologues and their deranged views with weird courtesy. Why are eco-crazies and trans advocates who threaten JK Rowling and MSP Joanna Cherry dignified with the term “progressives”? Why are Tories always “far-Right” but Humza Yousaf is never “far-Left” (which he is) or “the authoritarian author” of the demented Hate Crimes Act?
Such unmerited reverence and kid-glove treatment for the devolved Scottish government is what allowed Sturgeon, her now-arrested and charged husband, and their cronies to get away with so much for so long. Including a focus on identity politics and virtue signalling at the expense of the Scottish people. How’s that £110,000 SNP battle bus parked in the mother-in-law’s drive, Nicola?
As I write, it looks very much like the Scottish Greens, who commanded a mere 1.3 per cent of the popular vote, have the whip hand when it comes to choosing the country’s new leader. He – almost certainly a he – will have to sign up again to those “progressive” policies. Hard to believe that 18th-century Edinburgh, home to Boswell the biographer, Hume the philosopher and Smith the economist – giants all – is now at the mercy of a Canadian called Laura.
Worth recalling Adam Smith, I reckon, so wise on human dealings. “Man is an animal that makes bargains: no other animal does this – no dog exchanges bones with another.” The SNP is right down to the bones now.
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Post by morayloon on May 1, 2024 18:31:06 GMT
Your utterances on Scotland get worse each time you post. I cannot see what was wrong with it, could you enlighten us please? If he was to get his factsright it would help. |
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Post by morayloon on May 1, 2024 18:32:15 GMT
The only problem wit that is that I did. Rubbish! More to the point, my taxes have been totally wasted on HS2 and other vanity projects which do not benefit Scotland. Then you will be able to link to it then....Your fucking taxs remain in Scotland FFS....And talking of vanity projects how's it going with the ships built in Scotland with painted on Portholes? Have you sold many yet?.....LOL LOL LOL.
EDIT......'Showbiz Sturgeon' spent nearly £50k on 'sham' launch of ferry with painted on windows
The cost included the installation of a covered stage, a sound system and free Saltires for a small flag-waving crowd who watched as the First Minister launched the unfinished vessel...
My taxes go to theexhequer. Only a %age of it is returned. Whatever you can come up with, the money wasted on HS2 trumps it. I note the story is from the Daily Express, like the Daily Mail, not known for providing the whole story. The Glen Sannox was launched in 2017: two years before Scot Gov stepped in to save the yard. |
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Post by jonksy on May 1, 2024 18:32:56 GMT
I cannot see what was wrong with it, could you enlighten us please? If he was to get his factsright it would help. You wouldn't know a fact if you fell arse over tit on one fellow BRIT... |
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Post by happyjack on May 1, 2024 18:37:05 GMT
Your utterances on Scotland get worse each time you post. I cannot see what was wrong with it, could you enlighten us please? Neither can he.That’s why he has come back with the zero substance playground level response above. That is his usual MO when he has nothing credible to counter with in response to comments that he doesn’t like but knows are fair and reasonable. A typical hallmark of a yield nothing to anyone on anything zealot. |
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Post by jonksy on May 1, 2024 18:38:51 GMT
Then you will be able to link to it then....Your fucking taxs remain in Scotland FFS....And talking of vanity projects how's it going with the ships built in Scotland with painted on Portholes? Have you sold many yet?.....LOL LOL LOL.
EDIT......'Showbiz Sturgeon' spent nearly £50k on 'sham' launch of ferry with painted on windows
The cost included the installation of a covered stage, a sound system and free Saltires for a small flag-waving crowd who watched as the First Minister launched the unfinished vessel...
Your link is the same as mine fellow BRIT and proves that wee kranky pissed £50k of UK tax payers against the wall on nothing more than a farce . And that farce is rusting away and have never been used or sold. |
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