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Post by Orac on Apr 28, 2024 9:22:32 GMT
No they are not lying BVL anyone cam mass produce crap. It quality that is required not mass produced dud's just this ywar alone the west have took out over 10.000 patents on hi-tech drones alone. It's just lies. The number of shells from Russia to Ukraine is about 10x the level of the Ukrainian fire. Even the MSM admits they are dead short of shells.
Like the guy said, US arms is extortion. Their aircraft cost 10x as much. It's top-heavy on the suits.
The US is fucked, just like our country. It is run by morons and if you knew anything about military strategy you would know the Ukrainians have made the most stupid mistakes on the battlefields. Trained by us!
Anyway the link is from a guy who knows what is going on. He's about the most accurate you will get from over that way. It's knowing when to quit.
I'm not an expert on this matter, but I do get the sense that the west would have a lot of trouble gearing up for a proper war - take the UK, you can't 'gear up' Estate Agents, Nail-bars, charity shops and Turkish Barbers for war. There is only one country that has any significant industrial base to 'gear up' and we can see the fuss that was made when the previous president™ suggested that having so much manufacturing situated in China represented a vulnerability.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 28, 2024 9:53:17 GMT
It's just lies. The number of shells from Russia to Ukraine is about 10x the level of the Ukrainian fire. Even the MSM admits they are dead short of shells.
Like the guy said, US arms is extortion. Their aircraft cost 10x as much. It's top-heavy on the suits.
The US is fucked, just like our country. It is run by morons and if you knew anything about military strategy you would know the Ukrainians have made the most stupid mistakes on the battlefields. Trained by us!
Anyway the link is from a guy who knows what is going on. He's about the most accurate you will get from over that way. It's knowing when to quit.
I'm not an expert on this matter, but I do get the sense that the west would have a lot of trouble gearing up for a proper war - take the UK, you can't 'gear up' Estate Agents, Nail-bars, charity shops and Turkish Barbers for war. There is only one country that has any significant industrial base to 'gear up' and we can see the fuss that was made when the previous president™ suggested that having so much manufacturing situated in China represented a vulnerability. The reason that happens is the US is the reserve currency so although it can borrow as much as it likes by printing it, which you can understand as the advantage of a reserve currency, the side effect is the currency is over-valued. This means that in the US you only have to do one hour of work to pay for about 20 hours of foreign work with a weak currency, e.g. India.
What China did was start at the very bottom, because China was at one time as poor as say Ethiopia. It was hard up even when measured agaisnt the third world. This means every foreign dollar at one time was the difference between life and death.This made the Chinese culture very careful and non wasteful. Every dollar earnt was used as wisely as possible. They built themselves back up and as they got richer what would normally have happened is the money they then owned in savings, instead of buying dollar bonds which would have raised the level of their currency, they invested the money in infrastructure and more recently the BRI. This wealth they have is off the balance sheet so it does not contribute to rasing the value of the yuan.
That's the trick they use, and I really don't blame them. We never heard Blue Peter create a totaliser back in the 70s to help China. China was just left to rot. Everything China did to get out of the hole they were in they had to do themselves, and it turned out their own intelligence found better ways. If I were Chinese I would be saying now, thank god when we were poor we were not taught and helped by the Brits! You teach someone and you end up teaching them your errors as well.
Anyway, to this day the culture of anti-waste is still very strong. These days on an electronic trading site the difference of as few pence in product can make the difference between selling the lot and selling virtually nothing. By the way, the UK has also suffered from currency over-valuation. It only contributes a small amount to the word currency reserves but it is about same level as China, although 1/21 of the population. The country who has the problem in all of this is the US. Their debt can't carry on. The dollar is losing its reserve status so money is getting harder for them to borrow. They will come a cropper when they find they can't raise any more money on the bond market to fight wars.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 29, 2024 18:15:26 GMT
I'm not an expert on this matter, but I do get the sense that the west would have a lot of trouble gearing up for a proper war - take the UK, you can't 'gear up' Estate Agents, Nail-bars, charity shops and Turkish Barbers for war. There is only one country that has any significant industrial base to 'gear up' and we can see the fuss that was made when the previous president™ suggested that having so much manufacturing situated in China represented a vulnerability. The reason that happens is the US is the reserve currency so although it can borrow as much as it likes by printing it, which you can understand as the advantage of a reserve currency, the side effect is the currency is over-valued. This means that in the US you only have to do one hour of work to pay for about 20 hours of foreign work with a weak currency, e.g. India.
What China did was start at the very bottom, because China was at one time as poor as say Ethiopia. It was hard up even when measured agaisnt the third world. This means every foreign dollar at one time was the difference between life and death.This made the Chinese culture very careful and non wasteful. Every dollar earnt was used as wisely as possible. They built themselves back up and as they got richer what would normally have happened is the money they then owned in savings, instead of buying dollar bonds which would have raised the level of their currency, they invested the money in infrastructure and more recently the BRI. This wealth they have is off the balance sheet so it does not contribute to rasing the value of the yuan.
That's the trick they use, and I really don't blame them. We never heard Blue Peter create a totaliser back in the 70s to help China. China was just left to rot. Everything China did to get out of the hole they were in they had to do themselves, and it turned out their own intelligence found better ways. If I were Chinese I would be saying now, thank god when we were poor we were not taught and helped by the Brits! You teach someone and you end up teaching them your errors as well.
Anyway, to this day the culture of anti-waste is still very strong. These days on an electronic trading site the difference of as few pence in product can make the difference between selling the lot and selling virtually nothing. By the way, the UK has also suffered from currency over-valuation. It only contributes a small amount to the word currency reserves but it is about same level as China, although 1/21 of the population. The country who has the problem in all of this is the US. Their debt can't carry on. The dollar is losing its reserve status so money is getting harder for them to borrow. They will come a cropper when they find they can't raise any more money on the bond market to fight wars.
It just gets better BVL....LOL......Those so called atmoured cars were ones he purchased a few years back and are not even produced anymore...Destperation at it's best.....WAT to go Ukrain..
Putin suffered an embarrassing setback soon after bragging ‘Victory is inevitable’ as he put captured British armoured cars on display in Moscow.
Footage showed how Ukraine took out a major Russian radar system worth £6 million, using a drone that cost just £21,000.
The Polish-made kamikaze ‘Warmate’ drone flew into and destroyed the spinning dish of the mobile Podlyot radar complex, which can detect up to 200 targets simultaneously.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 29, 2024 21:14:49 GMT
The reason that happens is the US is the reserve currency so although it can borrow as much as it likes by printing it, which you can understand as the advantage of a reserve currency, the side effect is the currency is over-valued. This means that in the US you only have to do one hour of work to pay for about 20 hours of foreign work with a weak currency, e.g. India.
What China did was start at the very bottom, because China was at one time as poor as say Ethiopia. It was hard up even when measured agaisnt the third world. This means every foreign dollar at one time was the difference between life and death.This made the Chinese culture very careful and non wasteful. Every dollar earnt was used as wisely as possible. They built themselves back up and as they got richer what would normally have happened is the money they then owned in savings, instead of buying dollar bonds which would have raised the level of their currency, they invested the money in infrastructure and more recently the BRI. This wealth they have is off the balance sheet so it does not contribute to rasing the value of the yuan.
That's the trick they use, and I really don't blame them. We never heard Blue Peter create a totaliser back in the 70s to help China. China was just left to rot. Everything China did to get out of the hole they were in they had to do themselves, and it turned out their own intelligence found better ways. If I were Chinese I would be saying now, thank god when we were poor we were not taught and helped by the Brits! You teach someone and you end up teaching them your errors as well.
Anyway, to this day the culture of anti-waste is still very strong. These days on an electronic trading site the difference of as few pence in product can make the difference between selling the lot and selling virtually nothing. By the way, the UK has also suffered from currency over-valuation. It only contributes a small amount to the word currency reserves but it is about same level as China, although 1/21 of the population. The country who has the problem in all of this is the US. Their debt can't carry on. The dollar is losing its reserve status so money is getting harder for them to borrow. They will come a cropper when they find they can't raise any more money on the bond market to fight wars.
It just gets better BVL....LOL......Those so called atmoured cars were ones he purchased a few years back and are not even produced anymore...Destperation at it's best.....WAT to go Ukrain..
Putin suffered an embarrassing setback soon after bragging ‘Victory is inevitable’ as he put captured British armoured cars on display in Moscow.
Footage showed how Ukraine took out a major Russian radar system worth £6 million, using a drone that cost just £21,000.
The Polish-made kamikaze ‘Warmate’ drone flew into and destroyed the spinning dish of the mobile Podlyot radar complex, which can detect up to 200 targets simultaneously.
All this press shit is like sales pitches from the arms industry. They are making a killing out of this war and they like to show off their latest products. The problem is there is a lot of deception going on, as there has been from the start. It's little victories amidst a lot of failure. I worry how mad Uncle Sam will get as he begins to realise he really has lost this on. It's that mad idea if something is failing then try harder. In the end they are going to have to go in themselves and then it would be WW3. By the way, the real problem brewing for the US is more an economic one. They are increasing borrowing with this war and that's causing more trouble, which according to those in the know will mean interest rates remaining high.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 29, 2024 21:56:43 GMT
Oh for goodness sake, if Putin hadn't been such a thug, and if China wasn't threatening Taiwan, we might be able to justify military cutbacks and strategic nuclear arms reduction.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 29, 2024 22:38:15 GMT
It just gets better BVL....LOL......Those so called atmoured cars were ones he purchased a few years back and are not even produced anymore...Destperation at it's best.....WAT to go Ukrain..
Putin suffered an embarrassing setback soon after bragging ‘Victory is inevitable’ as he put captured British armoured cars on display in Moscow.
Footage showed how Ukraine took out a major Russian radar system worth £6 million, using a drone that cost just £21,000.
The Polish-made kamikaze ‘Warmate’ drone flew into and destroyed the spinning dish of the mobile Podlyot radar complex, which can detect up to 200 targets simultaneously.
All this press shit is like sales pitches from the arms industry. They are making a killing out of this war and they like to show off their latest products. The problem is there is a lot of deception going on, as there has been from the start. It's little victories amidst a lot of failure. I worry how mad Uncle Sam will get as he begins to realise he really has lost this on. It's that mad idea if something is failing then try harder. In the end they are going to have to go in themselves and then it would be WW3. By the way, the real problem brewing for the US is more an economic one. They are increasing borrowing with this war and that's causing more trouble, which according to those in the know will mean interest rates remaining high. I leave the talking shit to pro china and pro putin botts like you BVL.....Putins getting his arse kicked daily.....Good innit?
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 29, 2024 22:47:20 GMT
All this press shit is like sales pitches from the arms industry. They are making a killing out of this war and they like to show off their latest products. The problem is there is a lot of deception going on, as there has been from the start. It's little victories amidst a lot of failure. I worry how mad Uncle Sam will get as he begins to realise he really has lost this on. It's that mad idea if something is failing then try harder. In the end they are going to have to go in themselves and then it would be WW3. By the way, the real problem brewing for the US is more an economic one. They are increasing borrowing with this war and that's causing more trouble, which according to those in the know will mean interest rates remaining high. I leave the talking shit to pro china and pro putin botts like you BVL.....Putins getting his arse kicked daily.....Good innit? I can't stand the MSM's 24/7 wall to wall broadcasting of shit. They have nothing positive to report and I have concluded its done to brainwash people. All the while these cretins are fighting, the Chinese are figuring out all manner of interesting things, so I hang out online where they are, to be inspired. I had a distant hope this thread might reveal some rare bit of positivity regarding Britain, but quickly understood it to be a spy plane managed by the American offence industry, so business as usual. If it were a new type of medical machine to save lives I would change my view, but this is for working out where to drop more bombs. Those who do this are possessed by devils. They are infatuated with death. They want your blood! (and your soul)
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Post by jonksy on Apr 29, 2024 22:54:03 GMT
I leave the talking shit to pro china and pro putin botts like you BVL.....Putins getting his arse kicked daily.....Good innit? I can't stand the MSM's 24/7 wall to wall broadcasting of shit. They have nothing positive to report and I have concluded its done to brainwash people. All the while these cretins are fighting, the Chinese are figuring out all manner of interesting things, so I hang out online where they are, to be inspired. I had a distant hope this thread might reveal some rare bit of positivity regarding Britain, but quickly understood it to be a spy plane managed by the American offence industry, so business as usual. If it were a new type of medical machine to save lives I would change my view, but this is for working out where to drop more bombs. Those who do this are possessed by devils. They are infatuated with death. They want your blood! (and your soul) But you don't mind watching and reading the shit put out on rusky state tv....FFS bvl change the frigging record...
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 29, 2024 23:46:11 GMT
I can't stand the MSM's 24/7 wall to wall broadcasting of shit. They have nothing positive to report and I have concluded its done to brainwash people. All the while these cretins are fighting, the Chinese are figuring out all manner of interesting things, so I hang out online where they are, to be inspired. I had a distant hope this thread might reveal some rare bit of positivity regarding Britain, but quickly understood it to be a spy plane managed by the American offence industry, so business as usual. If it were a new type of medical machine to save lives I would change my view, but this is for working out where to drop more bombs. Those who do this are possessed by devils. They are infatuated with death. They want your blood! (and your soul) But you don't mind watching and reading the shit put out on rusky state tv....FFS bvl change the frigging record... I don't watch Russian state TV. I mostly watch bloggers on Youtube and technical stuff.
By the way a good one to recommend is Sean Foo. He's an expert on global financial markets. You may learn how we rarely get told anything about what is going on from our newspapers. They are really ignorant, so I have a whole bunch of alternatives.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 30, 2024 6:41:17 GMT
Putin's propaganda machine is on YouTube and you've fallen hook line and sinker for the propaganda.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 30, 2024 7:29:59 GMT
Putin's propaganda machine is on YouTube and you've fallen hook line and sinker for the propaganda. Even russian money is being used in bringing about putins defeat....WAT to go Ukrain...
Ukraine has received a vital military assistance of $61 billion from the United States. However, Kyiv still needs a medium-term financing plan to withstand pressure from Russia, according to Reuters.
The central element of the financing plan should be the mobilization of frozen assets of the Moscow central bank to compensate for the war damages.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 30, 2024 8:56:25 GMT
Putin's propaganda machine is on YouTube and you've fallen hook line and sinker for the propaganda. Even russian money is being used in bringing about putins defeat....WAT to go Ukrain...
Ukraine has received a vital military assistance of $61 billion from the United States. However, Kyiv still needs a medium-term financing plan to withstand pressure from Russia, according to Reuters.
The central element of the financing plan should be the mobilization of frozen assets of the Moscow central bank to compensate for the war damages.
That is theft though and if you want to borrow money from foreign markets in the future you will not be able to do if you look like a thief.
These Pentagon officials have intelligences of slugs.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 30, 2024 10:13:57 GMT
Even russian money is being used in bringing about putins defeat....WAT to go Ukrain...
Ukraine has received a vital military assistance of $61 billion from the United States. However, Kyiv still needs a medium-term financing plan to withstand pressure from Russia, according to Reuters.
The central element of the financing plan should be the mobilization of frozen assets of the Moscow central bank to compensate for the war damages.
That is theft though and if you want to borrow money from foreign markets in the future you will not be able to do if you look like a thief.
These Pentagon officials have intelligences of slugs.
And of course russians are not stealing anything from Ukrain....FFS
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 30, 2024 10:34:10 GMT
That is theft though and if you want to borrow money from foreign markets in the future you will not be able to do if you look like a thief.
These Pentagon officials have intelligences of slugs.
And of course russians are not stealing anything from Ukrain....FFS You are ignoring the problem I just raised. It does not matter what the Russians do. The US and the UK will be judged by their actions, not the actions of some media hate figure. The result will be higher bond yields which translates directly to higher interest rates and reduced economic growth.
Surely this is easy for you to understand. Lets make it really simple for you. You have some savings you want to put into a bank account to earn interest. You observe that a certain bank recently stole all the money out of everyone's account, converted to bitcoin then fled the country, so no one gets their money back. Ask yourself which bank you would choose.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 30, 2024 10:39:43 GMT
And of course russians are not stealing anything from Ukrain....FFS You are ignoring the problem I just raised. It does not matter what the Russians do. The US and the UK will be judged by their actions, not the actions of some media hate figure. The result will be higher bond yields which translates directly to higher interest rates and reduced economic growth.
Surely this is easy for you to understand. Lets make it really simple for you. You have some savings you want to put into a bank account to earn interest. You observe that a certain bank recently stole all the money out of everyone's account, converted to bitcoin then fled the country, so no one gets their money back. Ask yourself which bank you would choose.
Try selling that to Ukrains who have lost everything BVL including their freinds and families pets and freedom....The world has got billions in russian money tied up depriving putin of funds he could do with.........Good ...
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