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Post by Pacifico on Apr 24, 2024 21:30:37 GMT
Because they support them knowing that they can't go back. The Left are in bed with Islamism and have been for years. This is a heavily covered topic and being discussed more often now: www.spiked-online.com/video/the-islamo-left-must-be-confronted/TTL attacking England, the English and English ways, like pubs at this time is just an extension of this. The problem with people of the modern Populist Right, is that they believe everything is binary and simple, the good guys are the Jews and the Israeli's, the bad guys are always of the "Left" or they are "Muslims". Your ways of thinking and your ideas are regressive, backwards, simplistic and childish. M ost people of the Left, indeed most Progessive's which includes Liberals, can see both right and wrong on both sides of many arguments and issues, and thats what makes us "progressive" and you "regressive".For anyone to say that Hamas has not committed attrocities would be the opinion of someone not quite right in the head - and for anyone to say that the Israeli's have not caused too many deaths of innocent civilians, or that they are not responsible for hunger, disease and suffering of innocent people, would also be the opinion of someone who is not very bright. The inteligent people are always those who can see both sides of an argument, the fools are always the ones who without even thinking, automatically blame any side which consists of Muslims, because it fits in with their narrow minded thinking. Most people of "The Left" do not support any form of terrorism, and they do not support the IRA, and I would never personaly contemplate supporting the IRA, however, and as a Libertarian, I do understand what it is that Irish Nationalists campaign for .... One Island / One Ireland. The Left are overwhelmingly the majority of supporters on these protests - yet anyone who raises a placard denouncing Hamas is attacked. Struggling to see this group who see 'both sides' - I think you are gaslighting us. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2024 21:32:10 GMT
I must say that this has been a brilliant troll-thread. Well done, doofus.  
But it does make one wonder just how many lefty wokers really do believe this stuff.
Pause for thought, I'd say.
More than we'd like to know, which is unfortunate. It's also being encouraged by the police, government and corrupt officials throughout the establishment. I do believe the majority to be relatively sound, which is why the leftist establishment want to destroy freespeech. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 24, 2024 21:38:34 GMT
I must say that this has been a brilliant troll-thread. Well done, doofus.
But it does make one wonder just how many lefty wokers really do believe this stuff.
Pause for thought, I'd say.
More than we'd like to know, which is unfortunate. It's also being encouraged by the police, government and corrupt officials throughout the establishment. I do believe the majority to be relatively sound, which is why the leftist establishment want to destroy freespeech. Absolutely. It's a point that way more people need to grasp.
But... Sheeple.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 24, 2024 22:08:21 GMT
Getting rid of hanging shouldn't have meant freeing murderers. It shouldn't have meant letting terrorists out, or rapists. Prosecution should mean prosecution. Mis carriage of justice You would of had these six innocents Murdered The Birmingham Six were six Irishmen who were each sentenced to life imprisonment in 1975 following their false convictions for the 1974 Birmingham pub bombings. Their convictions were declared unsafe and unsatisfactory and quashed by the Court of Appeal on 14 March 1991. The six men were later awarded financial compensation ranging from £840,000 to £1.2 million. Oh? Look how does the argument for whole life, for convicted murderers in place of capital punishment equate to that? We got rid of the death sentence. Fair enough, but that shouldn't have meant freeing murderers, rapists, terrorists... Such people have committed such serious crimes that unless new evidence is provided to acquit, keep them locked up. |
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Post by witchfinder on Apr 24, 2024 23:27:44 GMT
The problem with people of the modern Populist Right, is that they believe everything is binary and simple, the good guys are the Jews and the Israeli's, the bad guys are always of the "Left" or they are "Muslims". Your ways of thinking and your ideas are regressive, backwards, simplistic and childish. M ost people of the Left, indeed most Progessive's which includes Liberals, can see both right and wrong on both sides of many arguments and issues, and thats what makes us "progressive" and you "regressive".For anyone to say that Hamas has not committed attrocities would be the opinion of someone not quite right in the head - and for anyone to say that the Israeli's have not caused too many deaths of innocent civilians, or that they are not responsible for hunger, disease and suffering of innocent people, would also be the opinion of someone who is not very bright. The inteligent people are always those who can see both sides of an argument, the fools are always the ones who without even thinking, automatically blame any side which consists of Muslims, because it fits in with their narrow minded thinking. Most people of "The Left" do not support any form of terrorism, and they do not support the IRA, and I would never personaly contemplate supporting the IRA, however, and as a Libertarian, I do understand what it is that Irish Nationalists campaign for .... One Island / One Ireland. The Left are overwhelmingly the majority of supporters on these protests - yet anyone who raises a placard denouncing Hamas is attacked. Struggling to see this group who see 'both sides' - I think you are gaslighting us. No, I think you are completely wrong, as a person of "the Left" I would never support or endorse what Hamas did to innocent people. I can understand the Israelis wanting to go after the murderers, but I dont accept what the Israelis are doing to innocent people in Gaza, its NOT acceptable. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 25, 2024 6:46:05 GMT
The Left are overwhelmingly the majority of supporters on these protests - yet anyone who raises a placard denouncing Hamas is attacked. Struggling to see this group who see 'both sides' - I think you are gaslighting us. No, I think you are completely wrong, as a person of "the Left" I would never support or endorse what Hamas did to innocent people. I can understand the Israelis wanting to go after the murderers, but I dont accept what the Israelis are doing to innocent people in Gaza, its NOT acceptable. I'm talking about these protest marches - where are those that see both sides? |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 25, 2024 7:06:11 GMT
Rather good example of 2 tier policing last night..
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Post by Totheleft on Apr 25, 2024 7:53:45 GMT
Rather good example of 2 tier policing last night.. Did they attack the police ? Should I Start posting EDL violence |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2024 9:15:21 GMT
Rather good example of 2 tier policing last night.. Anything English related is being heavily oppressed by the insane police state. |
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Post by Orac on Apr 25, 2024 9:20:57 GMT
It's so lopsided it presents like brain damage
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Post by witchfinder on Apr 25, 2024 10:40:18 GMT
In some European and African nations it is part and parcel of the culture of football supporters to let off flares, fireworks and fire crackers, we have all surely seen this on our TV screens, and these supporters see nothing wrong in what they are doing, it is an accepted part of their culture.
We in this country might see that letting off flares and fireworks could pose a risk, and so our police could (A) accept that this IS what Algerian supporters do, or (B) intervene and attempt to stop the Algerians from letting off firewoeks, and potentially cause a full blown riot.
IF I WAS THE AREA SUPERINTENDANT ... I would decide whether this was normal behaviour of the Algerians - OR - were the Algerian fans throwing the fireworks / flares at either people or property, if the answer to that is "No they were simply letting off fireworks", then I would not intervene, or attempt to stop them from doing what they normally do at football matches.
Everyone is happy, no one gets harmed, the police do not intervene and potentially cause a major disturbance, and everyone goes home happy ( unless your a fan of the losing side ).
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Post by Orac on Apr 25, 2024 11:42:53 GMT
So, now we should both employ African social order standards when policing our territory and ban our national celebrations
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Post by Bentley on Apr 25, 2024 13:45:22 GMT
In some European and African nations it is part and parcel of the culture of football supporters to let off flares, fireworks and fire crackers, we have all surely seen this on our TV screens, and these supporters see nothing wrong in what they are doing, it is an accepted part of their culture. We in this country might see that letting off flares and fireworks could pose a risk, and so our police could (A) accept that this IS what Algerian supporters do, or (B) intervene and attempt to stop the Algerians from letting off firewoeks, and potentially cause a full blown riot. IF I WAS THE AREA SUPERINTENDANT ... I would decide whether this was normal behaviour of the Algerians - OR - were the Algerian fans throwing the fireworks / flares at either people or property, if the answer to that is "No they were simply letting off fireworks", then I would not intervene, or attempt to stop them from doing what they normally do at football matches. Everyone is happy, no one gets harmed, the police do not intervene and potentially cause a major disturbance, and everyone goes home happy ( unless your a fan of the losing side ). “We in this country might see that letting off flares and fireworks could pose a risk, and so our police could (A) accept that this IS what Algerian supporters do, or (B) intervene and attempt to stop the Algerians from letting off firewoeks, and potentially cause a full blown riot.” Are you suggesting that Algerians are no better than hooligans? |
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Post by Orac on Apr 25, 2024 15:19:59 GMT
In some European and African nations it is part and parcel of the culture of football supporters to let off flares, fireworks and fire crackers, we have all surely seen this on our TV screens, and these supporters see nothing wrong in what they are doing, it is an accepted part of their culture. We in this country might see that letting off flares and fireworks could pose a risk, and so our police could (A) accept that this IS what Algerian supporters do, or (B) intervene and attempt to stop the Algerians from letting off firewoeks, and potentially cause a full blown riot. IF I WAS THE AREA SUPERINTENDANT ... I would decide whether this was normal behaviour of the Algerians - OR - were the Algerian fans throwing the fireworks / flares at either people or property, if the answer to that is "No they were simply letting off fireworks", then I would not intervene, or attempt to stop them from doing what they normally do at football matches. Everyone is happy, no one gets harmed, the police do not intervene and potentially cause a major disturbance, and everyone goes home happy ( unless your a fan of the losing side ). “We in this country might see that letting off flares and fireworks could pose a risk, and so our police could (A) accept that this IS what Algerian supporters do, or (B) intervene and attempt to stop the Algerians from letting off firewoeks, and potentially cause a full blown riot.” Are you suggesting that Algerians are no better than hooligans? He is saying that they are basically Africans. |
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Post by witchfinder on Apr 25, 2024 15:48:11 GMT
What I am saying is that letting off fireworks is normal for Algerian football fans
But after doing some research, I can go further and categorically state that these fans did no harm to anyone or any property, they were as one report put it "in high spirits".
They were not hooligans, unlike Tommy Robinsons mob
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