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Post by sandypine on Apr 20, 2024 8:08:44 GMT
Which is exactly my point - if these protests are going to be triggered to violence by a passing Jew, then the last thing you can claim is that it was a peaceful protest Which kinda begs the question - if a Jew is in danger from these protests then all the bullshit about them not being antisemitic is wrong, they are not a protest against the Government in Israel they are protest against Jews in general and in support of Hamas. Again, he wasn't a passing Jew, he set out to provoke a peaceful protest using Jewishness as a weapon. Either you are purposely misrepresenting him and trying to be clever with it or you don't have a clue what is going on. Most people can see what is going on and realise only too clearly the hypocrisy of it all. You are effectively saying being openly Jewish can be a red rag to a bull and you would agree that low profile is called for. Some are asking is being openly Muslim the same type of thing or openly black (how can one be anything else). Multiculturalism is predicated on a tolerant society which British society is supposed to be where all people can go about their business openly as themselves with no fear of inflaming others to violence. |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 20, 2024 8:14:32 GMT
Again, he wasn't a passing Jew, he set out to provoke a peaceful protest using Jewishness as a weapon. Either you are purposely misrepresenting him and trying to be clever with it or you don't have a clue what is going on. Most people can see what is going on and realise only too clearly the hypocrisy of it all. You are effectively saying being openly Jewish can be a red rag to a bull and you would agree that low profile is called for. Some are asking is being openly Muslim the same type of thing or openly black (how can one be anything else). Multiculturalism is predicated on a tolerant society which British society is supposed to be where all people can go about their business openly as themselves with no fear of inflaming others to violence. No, I am saying it isn't illegal to be Jewish but is idiotic to think everyone will fall for it using it as a provocation. Which in this case it clearly is. Now either you can call for end to it now or carry on trying to use this ridiculous idiot as a representative of Jewishness. I wouldn't call that very wise personally. Next time he tries to provoke for the sake of it, people might not be so thoughtful. |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 20, 2024 8:34:40 GMT
Most people can see what is going on and realise only too clearly the hypocrisy of it all. You are effectively saying being openly Jewish can be a red rag to a bull and you would agree that low profile is called for. Some are asking is being openly Muslim the same type of thing or openly black (how can one be anything else). Multiculturalism is predicated on a tolerant society which British society is supposed to be where all people can go about their business openly as themselves with no fear of inflaming others to violence. No, I am saying it isn't illegal to be Jewish but is idiotic to think everyone will fall for it using it as a provocation. Which in this case it clearly is. Now either you can call for end to it now or carry on trying to use this ridiculous idiot as a representative of Jewishness. I wouldn't call that very wise personally. Next time he tries to provoke for the sake of it, people might not be so thoughtful. If one is being oneself how can that be a provocation? A dress code is normal for many religions with Muslims being particularly noted for this affectation. Being oneself is not limited to any area. EDL marches occurred quite often and if a Muslim walking down the street in Muslim garb had been told by officialdom to keep clear because his very presence was a provocation then the good and the mighty would have been up in arms. We had Muslims in Luton, in Muslim garb, calling British soldiers marching past baby killers and murderers. They were not told to clear off as they were provoking people they were allowed to make their case in protest and despite being very provocative were protected from any attempts to react with one man being arrested for remonstrating and trying to reach them. It is the double standards at play in a very obvious fashion that is the issue. One is allowed to call British troops on parade murderers but one is not allowed to call HAMAS a terrorist organisation or be openly Jewish for fear of a breach of the peace. That says more about those potentially breaching the peace than anything and is in fact the world turned upside down. |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 20, 2024 8:38:35 GMT
No, I am saying it isn't illegal to be Jewish but is idiotic to think everyone will fall for it using it as a provocation. Which in this case it clearly is. Now either you can call for end to it now or carry on trying to use this ridiculous idiot as a representative of Jewishness. I wouldn't call that very wise personally. Next time he tries to provoke for the sake of it, people might not be so thoughtful. If one is being oneself how can that be a provocation? A dress code is normal for many religions with Muslims being particularly noted for this affectation. Being oneself is not limited to any area. EDL marches occurred quite often and if a Muslim walking down the street in Muslim garb had been told by officialdom to keep clear because his very presence was a provocation then the good and the mighty would have been up in arms. We had Muslims in Luton, in Muslim garb, calling British soldiers marching past baby killers and murderers. They were not told to clear off as they were provoking people they were allowed to make their case in protest and despite being very provocative were protected from any attempts to react with one man being arrested for remonstrating and trying to reach them. It is the double standards at play in a very obvious fashion that is the issue. One is allowed to call British troops on parade murderers but one is not allowed to call HAMAS a terrorist organisation or be openly Jewish for fear of a breach of the peace. That says more about those potentially breaching the peace than anything and is in fact the world turned upside down. I don't want to hear pathetic excuses, peaceful it will be kept despite provocations, I have seen and heard it all before. |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 20, 2024 8:40:33 GMT
If one is being oneself how can that be a provocation? A dress code is normal for many religions with Muslims being particularly noted for this affectation. Being oneself is not limited to any area. EDL marches occurred quite often and if a Muslim walking down the street in Muslim garb had been told by officialdom to keep clear because his very presence was a provocation then the good and the mighty would have been up in arms. We had Muslims in Luton, in Muslim garb, calling British soldiers marching past baby killers and murderers. They were not told to clear off as they were provoking people they were allowed to make their case in protest and despite being very provocative were protected from any attempts to react with one man being arrested for remonstrating and trying to reach them. It is the double standards at play in a very obvious fashion that is the issue. One is allowed to call British troops on parade murderers but one is not allowed to call HAMAS a terrorist organisation or be openly Jewish for fear of a breach of the peace. That says more about those potentially breaching the peace than anything and is in fact the world turned upside down. I don't want to hear pathetic excuses, peaceful it will be kept despite provocations, I have seen and heard it all before. And no good will come of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2024 10:04:44 GMT
It was a pro-Palestinian march, not a pro-Hamas march. I know of no violence that occurred, and that's because the police were not letting people interrupt the march with intent to inflame tensions and invite confrontation. It doesn't sound very peaceful if it was going to be inflamed to violence by a Jew crossing the road.. Are you really suggesting we should have no-go areas for Jews to prevent Hamas supporters being incited to violence? I think it comes down to the simple fact that Hamas supporters excuse Jew hatred in the same way they excuse terrorism. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 20, 2024 10:21:56 GMT
How can it be a peaceful protest if it is prone to violence by a Jew crossing the road?... Don't be daft..  Except he wasn't just crossing the road, was he? he was purposely trying to use his Jewishness to provoke a reaction which he was stopped from doing for his own safety. Because he is an idiot. This is for you youtu.be/teSPN8sVbFU?si=Vy0eSjR73AhqIygK |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 20, 2024 11:54:00 GMT
Except he wasn't just crossing the road, was he? he was purposely trying to use his Jewishness to provoke a reaction which he was stopped from doing for his own safety. Because he is an idiot. This is for you youtu.be/teSPN8sVbFU?si=Vy0eSjR73AhqIygKObviously not Bentley, but no crying this time from you. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2024 13:06:59 GMT
Except he wasn't just crossing the road, was he? he was purposely trying to use his Jewishness to provoke a reaction which he was stopped from doing for his own safety. Because he is an idiot. This is for you youtu.be/teSPN8sVbFU?si=Vy0eSjR73AhqIygKHe's not man enough to own it. |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 20, 2024 13:12:07 GMT
He's not man enough to own it. Stop whimpering and hoping to stir up division as always claiming victim hood. We all know how it works at sheepy HQ, you are out in the cold this time. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2024 13:19:10 GMT
Some Hamas supporting oddball is advocating direct fascism toward Jews in England, whilst dishonestly claiming he's against division.
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Post by sheepy on Apr 20, 2024 13:21:29 GMT
Some Jewish fascist thinks we came down in the last rain shower.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2024 13:29:28 GMT
The thing about Jew haters is that they're so delusional and irrational that they have no loyalty to anything. They're currently part of the establishment far-left, Islamists and fascist state, but keep in mind some of them were also in bed with a few nationalist fringe movements (probably honeypots), too.
EDIT: I'm not Jewish, Sheepy. I have always been open about my position. Perhaps the Jews have been living in your head rent free for so long that they've emptied it out. All that matters is that you support direct fascism toward Jewish people in England as part of the Hamas supporting far-left/backwards oddball campaign.
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Post by sheepy on Apr 20, 2024 13:31:42 GMT
LOL how did I know victim status would be claimed? it's like taking candy from a baby.
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Post by Ripley on Apr 20, 2024 13:38:52 GMT
It was a pro-Palestinian march, not a pro-Hamas march. I know of no violence that occurred, and that's because the police were not letting people interrupt the march with intent to inflame tensions and invite confrontation. It doesn't sound very peaceful if it was going to be inflamed to violence by a Jew crossing the road.. Are you really suggesting we should have no-go areas for Jews to prevent Hamas supporters being incited to violence? You keep conflating support for the Palestinians with support for Hamas. They are not the same thing. The pro-Palestinian protest was peaceful. No violence occurred because police were not allowing anyone with intent to incite violence near the protesters. They were effectively containing the marchers. Let me be clear: I am certainly NOT suggesting there should be no-go areas for Jews or for anyone else, but I do think that prevention is easier than cure and the police wisely acted proactively out of concern for the safety of this man and the safety of the public. |
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