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Post by sheepy on Apr 24, 2024 6:47:46 GMT
No I’m not,you said and I quote And I agreed with you Then the Police should take action against those that commit violence - not the victims. Stop victim blaming. He wasn't a victim though, was he? he turned up with his crew to film him trying to agitate at a protest with a limp excuse for being there, while claiming it was antisemitism that he was stopped from agitating. What a wanker he is.
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Post by wapentake on Apr 24, 2024 7:51:22 GMT
No I’m not,you said and I quote And I agreed with you Then the Police should take action against those that commit violence - not the victims. Stop victim blaming. I’m afraid all those years supporting the hammers have addled your brain somewhat,you make a statement which I agree with and somehow conclude I’m victim blaming,surely it’s you who is since you posted it originally.
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 24, 2024 8:56:28 GMT
Except the video posted earlier indicates he was doing much more than just being openly Jewish. He was clearly there to deliberately provoke a reaction from the protestors. The Police therefore, clearly had a duty to intervene. All The Best I agree the police acted according to their beliefs as to his intent but the upshot explanation was you are openly Jewish and as such may draw violence from person or persons unknown but certainly in the marchers. So if the point was to expose the anti Jewish aspect suspected amongst the marchers the police did that for him by agreeing that there was and he may be in danger from them. The fact that he wanted to openly walk close to them was to expose the anti semitic aspect. Why is that so difficult to understand. If a black man was exposing racism amongst a BNP march the left would be in reverent supporter and would be apoplectic with rage if he had been prevented from walking there by the police. As I said we see the hypocrisy. I think you are wrong. I think if the police thought a black man was trying to engage with a BNP protest simply to provoke the protestors they, the police, would have no choice but to intervene. All The Best
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Post by Bentley on Apr 24, 2024 9:07:17 GMT
Except the video posted earlier indicates he was doing much more than just being openly Jewish. He was clearly there to deliberately provoke a reaction from the protestors. The Police therefore, clearly had a duty to intervene. All The Best I agree the police acted according to their beliefs as to his intent but the upshot explanation was you are openly Jewish and as such may draw violence from person or persons unknown but certainly in the marchers. So if the point was to expose the anti Jewish aspect suspected amongst the marchers the police did that for him by agreeing that there was and he may be in danger from them. The fact that he wanted to openly walk close to them was to expose the anti semitic aspect. Why is that so difficult to understand. If a black man was exposing racism amongst a BNP march the left would be in reverent supporter and would be apoplectic with rage if he had been prevented from walking there by the police. As I said we see the hypocrisy. Exactly ..and this isnt the first time this has been pointed out. Yet the usual suspects completely ignore it and just repeat the same Jew hating verbiage.
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Post by wapentake on Apr 24, 2024 9:39:34 GMT
Except the video posted earlier indicates he was doing much more than just being openly Jewish. He was clearly there to deliberately provoke a reaction from the protestors. The Police therefore, clearly had a duty to intervene. All The Best I agree the police acted according to their beliefs as to his intent but the upshot explanation was you are openly Jewish and as such may draw violence from person or persons unknown but certainly in the marchers. So if the point was to expose the anti Jewish aspect suspected amongst the marchers the police did that for him by agreeing that there was and he may be in danger from them. The fact that he wanted to openly walk close to them was to expose the anti semitic aspect. Why is that so difficult to understand. If a black man was exposing racism amongst a BNP march the left would be in reverent supporter and would be apoplectic with rage if he had been prevented from walking there by the police. As I said we see the hypocrisy.Wouldn’t disagree,and what you posted exposes the myth he was just going for a walk,whoever the left are may well be apoplectic with your scenario but I haven’t seen anyone here adopting that rage unless of course I missed it and someone can enlighten me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2024 10:40:09 GMT
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Post by Bentley on Apr 24, 2024 10:50:23 GMT
Yup^ I would be a bit more sympathetic to the police if they were honest and told him that they couldn’t allow him to go near the crowd because the crowd would most likely be hostile to a Jew looking overly Jewish . They did not . They turned the reality on its head and accused him of being deliberately provocative. Hence the obvious conclusion that the crowd would have become an anti Jewish mob at the point where an openly Jewish man was near and the cowardly and false claim by the police that a Jew looking Jewish is a provocation. The Jew haters argument is nothing more than victim blaming.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 24, 2024 10:55:58 GMT
Then the Police should take action against those that commit violence - not the victims. Stop victim blaming. He wasn't a victim though, was he? he turned up with his crew to film him trying to agitate at a protest with a limp excuse for being there, while claiming it was antisemitism that he was stopped from agitating. What a wanker he is. What was he doing that would agitate the people in the protest - looking like a Jew?
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Post by wapentake on Apr 24, 2024 11:38:50 GMT
He wasn't a victim though, was he? he turned up with his crew to film him trying to agitate at a protest with a limp excuse for being there, while claiming it was antisemitism that he was stopped from agitating. What a wanker he is. What was he doing that would agitate the people in the protest - looking like a Jew? No what he was doing was trying to incite because he wasn’t going for a walk as you have previously claimed. When the police do things that fall in with your views you fall over yourself praising them however when it goes against your views out comes the two tier policing. They are not infallible but were doing their best to avoid a public order situation,the office in question was firm but unfailingly polite. What do we see here in threads is the police need to be reformed and a comment that “It just needs to get back to clobbering lefties.” the police are there to keep the peace and are hamstrung quite often, the world and his wife pulling their phones out and filming,that is then discussed at length though quite often the footage is edited,people need to remember they are operating in real time and under pressure numbers depleted by the pillocks at Westminster.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2024 13:02:03 GMT
He wasn't a victim though, was he? he turned up with his crew to film him trying to agitate at a protest with a limp excuse for being there, while claiming it was antisemitism that he was stopped from agitating. What a wanker he is. What was he doing that would agitate the people in the protest - looking like a Jew? Simply being Jewish is provocation. Jew hating is something they do everyday, which is why it's normal for them.
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Post by sheepy on Apr 24, 2024 13:42:19 GMT
He wasn't a victim though, was he? he turned up with his crew to film him trying to agitate at a protest with a limp excuse for being there, while claiming it was antisemitism that he was stopped from agitating. What a wanker he is. What was he doing that would agitate the people in the protest - looking like a Jew? Just being an agitating prick if being a Jew were a problem there were plenty there anyway, which had to be pointed for the stupid.
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Post by Ripley on Apr 24, 2024 14:16:39 GMT
What was he doing that would agitate the people in the protest - looking like a Jew? Just being an agitating prick if being a Jew were a problem there were plenty there anyway, which had to be pointed for the stupid. Indeed, this is a political issue and the Jews are not a political monolith. About 10,000 people marched in London on Saturday. Along with other protesters, Jewish groups backed calls for a ceasefire, displaying banners calling for the Israeli leader, Benjamin Netanyahu, to secure a hostage deal and chanting: “Netanyahu, shame, shame, not in our name.” Just as there are Jewish groups who oppose the Netanyahu government's policies in Gaza, there are others who support them. The latter would prefer that these protests be cancelled and prohibited and this is Mr. Falter's stated opinion. His likely agenda is to silence opposition to the Netanyahu government's atrocities.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 24, 2024 14:21:09 GMT
You can’t look like Jew in front of Jew haters but you can look like a Muslim in front of ‘ Islamophobes ‘, look black in front of people who hate blacks and girls can wear a shirt skirt in front of lewd misogynists. The Jew haters new rules .
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Post by Ripley on Apr 24, 2024 14:29:02 GMT
You can’t look like Jew in front of Jew haters but you can look like a Muslim in front of ‘ Islamophobes ‘, look black in front of people who hate blacks and girls can wear a shirt skirt in front of lewd misogynists. The Jew haters new rules . This was not an anti-Jew protest. It was a political protest. A group of Jewish Socialists participated in the protest with a gigantic identifying banner emblazoned with "NOT IN OUR NAME". www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/03/hundreds-of-thousands-expected-at-pro-palestine-march-in-london
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2024 14:30:38 GMT
You can’t look like Jew in front of Jew haters but you can look like a Muslim in front of ‘ Islamophobes ‘, look black in front of people who hate blacks and girls can wear a shirt skirt in front of lewd misogynists. The Jew haters new rules . It's like blaming a women for being raped because she looked provocative in a dress.
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